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I got mad at that too, even started a thread about it But I retracted my ill will towards Lamont Jordan when Moorman told reporters after the game that Jordan had sought him out and personally appologized for the hit. Differnce was that the hit on Moorman was legal. Unneccessary? Yes. But legal. In my view, Tucker's block was not legal. Nor was Abraham's reaction to it.

I don't have the tape But I did rewind (the Tivo) several times during the game to watch it and my interpretation was that it was from behind/the side in such an angle that Abraham could not see it coming nor protect his knees. And I remeber saying after reviewing it that Tucker will be fined. If you are saying it is clearly infront, then we will agree to disagree (since I can't rewatch it:( ) But we'll see when the fines come out on Wed.

Engagement is only part of the rule. The second part is a cut block from behind is illegal as well. "From Behind" in the case of the NFL rule book has been deemed those instances where the player cannot see the hit coming and thus is defenseless. I believe, though not 100 percent sure, that they are two seperate penalties (Chop block and Chop Block from behind).

There are only two things in football that warrent a beat down. 1) Illegal Chop Blocks & 2) Extreme Late Hits.

Watch Sportcenter this afternoon. It made their "Ultimate Highlights"

You're right, of course. I'm not trying to rag on the Bills at all or say the Refs got it right. I'm just saying that it was a penalty on Tucker and he will be fined by the NFL once they watch the film. Should Abraham reacted that way? No. But I understand why he did. Put it this way. Had that been Kevin Muwai (or however you spell his name) cutting Schobel like that, and had Schobel reacted the same way, no one here would care. In fact people would be pissed that the chop block wasn't called. I'm just saying we have to be fair is all:)

The whistle had not blown. So the play wasn't over. But Abraham was no where close to the ball and was a nonfactor in the play was my point.

He wasn't infront of him. He was coming from behind/the side. Abraham was coming from the end position and had beaten JJ. Tucker was backpeadaling and looking upfield. He saw Abraham and had to turn around to catch him from behind. Abraham didn't/couldn't see him coming. The NFL rulebook says in that case you must block above the waist.

That's the point. They have outlawed it. But teams still do it. Denver is a prime example. They actually TEACH their linemen to do it because the refs don't call it as much as they should. It is, in my opinion, one of the most barbaric tactics left in the game today and people who continue to use it should not only be fined, but suspended. So I have no problem whatsoever with Abraham defending himself in that situation. Was it right? No. But it certainly was justified.

Tucker will be fined for the "legal block". Don't get me wrong, I love Tucker, but it was a cheap shot. You don't cut a man's knees when the play is over and you are coming from behind. It's one thing if you are face up or square with a player to cut him, but Tucker wasn't even close. Abraham never saw him coming. It was the same thing that Denver just did last week and ended the season for...shoot I forget his name. I don't think Tucker was trying to be dirty, he was trying to make a play, but he should know better. Abraham was defending himself. Sometimes it's easy to forget that this game is the players livelyhood. And what Tucker did could have prevented Abraham from ever playing again.

The depletion at the WR and CB positions certainly factored into the decision to keep Anderson inactive on Sunday. He just has fallen victim to a numbers game. Nothing to read into there in my opinion.

It's true. Zero sacks in 2 games, zero sacks in 3 out of 4 games since they didn't allow a sack against the Fins either (I think...)

I'm not predicting a win...yet...but I will predict the game is closer than 10 points.

Who cares, we won and Jerry Gray isn't going anywhere. Why are we still discussing this

Are you kidding me? We can't celebrate because we have 3 road games coming up???? Come on Ice, they've won 3 out of the last 4. One against a very good Jets team (who they flat out dominated physically in this game). The O Line hasn't given up a sack in the past 2 games Willis is fast carving out a niche for himself in this football crazy town. I ask you, if we can't be happy now, WHEN THE HECK CAN WE BE?! Look at how much this team has improved over the past 4 weeks and you have to be happy with the progress. Who cares about three games from now? Let's just look at how far this team has come. I said it before and I'll say it again, if you can't see the progress that this team is making, then you are trying too hard to be negative.

Apparently they were close to signing McGee to a 4 year extension with a 7 figure bonus. Stay tuned.

It's hard to get those long drives when your special teams and defense keep giving you great field position. The last couple games the Bills seem to start 4 out of every 5 drives almost at midfield. I'm not going to complain about that:)

Exactly:)

I'm too fired up about how good the Bills looked today to care about what the Pats (or anyone else for that matter) is doing. GO BILLS!

If we win 4 games in a row THEN we can crow? Come on Ice, they've won 3 out of the last 4. One against a very good Jets team (who they flat out dominated physically in this game). The O Line hasn't given up a sack in the past 2 games and Willis is on fire. I ask you, if we can't be happy now, WHEN THE HECK CAN WE BE?! Who cares about the playoff picture right now. Just look at how much this team has improved over the past 4 weeks and you have to be happy with the progress. And if you can't see the progress that this team is making, then you are trying too hard to be negative. So take your cold water elsewhere

If you have the ESPN 2 (I think?), you don't have to wait till Wed. You can hear him tomorrow when they cover all the Coaches Press conferences.

On the Gameday thread I gave Jordan a big :I starred in Brokeback Mountain: for his cheap shot. I just hear Moorman on the postgame show talk about how Jordan came over to him after the game and appologized to him saying, "I wouldn't have done that had I realized you were the kicker". So, Mr. Jordan, I appologize and retract my :I starred in Brokeback Mountain:

Who says we can't? We almost beat 'em in our house last time. And that was PW (Pre Willis). I smell a good game coming up between the Pats and Bills. It will make ESPN Football fun again.

When was the last time we won 2 in a row? The begining of last year? Regardless, the team looked good. Even if it is too little too late, the future looks bright.