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Mods, can I get this thread shut down? It’s turned into a sh#t show. I was curious how people saw the 12th man vs Bills mafia. And should it be considered for the ring of honor. IT WASNT A VOTE!

Thanks! Looks like they got at least two maybe three players they liked a lot.

Agreed, like you I’m the 12th man. I was in the stadium with you. I was an 8 year old when Leopold? Ended Miami’ s ten year streak. I feel like they might be two separate entities which is weird. I’ve been to epic games, goal post games, that’s the 12th man. I thin Bills Mafia is something different, something that evolved from the the 12th man.

That’s what I was thinking. The 12th man is pretty generic, but not sure if it’s ok to take down the 12th man. Wonder what the plans are for the new stadium?

I was watching local coverage of training camp and they mentioned how great the Bills Mafia were. Sean mentioned that it was really important for the young guys to get that exposure and see how they respond with fans in the house. Is the 12th man different than Bills Mafia or is it just an updated more specific name for our fans? Should it’s be reflected on the wall of fame?

I do not live in Buffalo anymore, but I grew up there and get back every few months. 1. Really depends on time of year, but I only go once a year. I like being behind the team. 2. We arrive at 8ish. By the time you set up, tailgate for a bit, then break it down, it’s usually time to head in. We have a group of 9 going to Commanders game if you want to join us. 3. Bills store on a non Sunday, a lot of parks on the water. Not sure if Sullivan ships are open, Chestnut Ridge. 4. No idea about this. 5. Buffalo has amazing food and restaurants. I highly, highly recommend Bar Bill and Gabriel’s Gate. Schwabels for Beef on Weck. Most Greek places are great. I had a La Nova pizza last week and liked it. There are also a ton of ethnic food restaurants. Enjoy the game and pm if you want to tailgate. im sure some will bash my food selections 🤷🏻‍♂️

I’m 57 and having been going to games since I was 5. The first jersey I ever bought was EJ Manuel. So I am with you my friend. Buying crappy jerseys sucks. My next and only purchase was a Kelly jersey. I’m considering another one with this team.

I’m not sure if the Bills know what makes Oliver tick. I think I do, I mentioned money. They apparently are very comfortable with his motivation going forward. They just gave him a sizable contract. Thanks for the dialogue.

You bring up excellent points. I hope you’re right. I’m a huge fan of big balls Beane. I just am in the camp, to get the most out ofOliver I think a contract year would make him a very serious force. Possibily with a SB win. If he’s hyper motivated to get paid, maybe that’s the last piece. I’m still mulling this over, but I’m leaning meh.

Great point.

No argument my friend.

You sir a a very funny guy. I’m praying Davis explodes this year.

Oh I completely agree, and I’d let him walk. He will command huge money. Im glad Edmunds got his. But I don’t think he’s worth the big pay check. Lots of guys gotta get paid. Tauron Johnson should have an extra zero in his paycheck in my mind before Oliver.

You bring up great points. But I wanted Oliver to play out his last year motivated and hungry. I just think he’s motivated by money.

What do you mean my trickle effect? I do think otherwise for this particular player. I agree that some players are just motivated to win. I think others want a pay day. I got Oliver in the pay day category .

And that’s where I would rank him Average at best. I’m meh on this, I’d of preferred he played lights out looking for a pay day.

Never sign a questionable player on their last year. Like Shaq and endless other examples, guys in the last year of their contract are motivated. If he plays to get paid, probably gonna be awesome. Got paid, time for cruise control. I hate it, but that’s what I think.

Simple statement. Deep implications. Still digesting it, not sure if I agree or disagree. But if we lose Allen and our season is toast. That’s saying a lot about our team. I’d like to think we would still be competitive. But if we are not, and depend on Allen that much, we aren’t a SB team.

Until he does.

I kind of wish the Bills and all NFL teams (teams could share a minor league team) had a minor/developmental league. Like the Amerks. No more practice squads. I’d watch to see our future stars develop. You gotta think it would help development of some players. Basically jacked up college teams. I don’t need the silly rules of XFL or whoever. I do like listening in on coordinators though.

I’m all for improving the tailgate experience. I think there is a problem with your proposal. Liability. Not positive, but if they acknowledge it, participate in it, they then become liable. Any lawyers here that might expand on this thought?

In todays age, these guys are playing a lot longer (i.e. Brady), the nutrition, injury care etc is head and shoulders above years ago. Plus the SOB never seems to take a good hit. Those guys drive me nuts, I think Beasley and Brown were the same way.

Great signing! His shoulder will be better next year, he’s a handful when healthy. Now we need him in an interview. “Shaq, sign the damn contract!”

I think this could be an excellent separate post. Ranking guys from NFL you would never mess with. I immediately thought of a bunch of guys I’d add to that list. Bills and non Bills. Bruce, Ditka, Butkus, etc

Sorry. Making claims about my “buy in” is a bit of a joke as you don’t know me. I’m a bit brighter than that. I don’t buy into entertainment. I enjoy it and chose what I watch for entertainment. So yeah, I watch his highlights once or twice a month, along with once or twice when he hosts Allen. But sorry, I don’t “buy in”, it’s entertainment not some life or death decision you buy into. Training for military, first responders etc involves “buy in”.