Bob in STL

To early to tell. McCargo played against back ups and he looked like a back up himself. Not much to get excited about.

It was the local Washington DC TV by the way. They were all wearing Redskins Polo Shirts.

Concur. One of yestardays bright spots was Nelson. Give him more reps Chan.

I watched maybin very closely. He played the entire game which seemed odd and almost like a punishment. In the first quarter, against the first string, Maybin played on 3rd down passing situation and he was easily blocked by Trent Williams, a rookie LT. He made a mistakle on the roughing penalty and kept a drive alive. The Skins would have punted if not for his penalty. Instead they scored 6. We would have got the ball back with a 3-0 lead. He made some plays in the 3rd quarter. He was getting run over by scrubs in the 4th quarter. It has been pointed out that Maybin is very small. He does not appear to have the size and strength to play every down. Since he is only 22 he can get bigger. He may be two years away from being a very good player. We passesd on Orakpo who looks like a monster. Hard to believe that pro scouts and our FO would miss the obvious age, size and maturity difference between Orakpo and Maybin. It looks like man versus boy to me.

I thought that the left side of the OL with Meredith and Levitre did ok. When Bell, Wood and Green get back we should be better.

Maybin's hit was hard enought to justify a penalty in pre-season. I thought that against the starters in the first half he was not ready for prime time. He really only played on passing downs and his speed rush move has handled easily by rookie Trent Williams. His penalty kept a drive alive and led to a TD. He played the entire second half and he made some plays but he sure gets burried on running plays. The kid has a long way to go.

Yes. But I am not buying it. Talk about hitting and getting tougher all camp long. That was the time to man up and get the first down.

CJ looked very good in his one carry. I would not anoint the Beast yet. Chambers is just plain bad. He got cut last year and he is back and even further up the depth chart because our FO continues to ignore the OT position. McGee looked slow and did not have a good game.

There is no such book. Remember the Titans fake punt last year in preseason?

I don't care about not challenging the TD. I did not like not going for it with just inches to go. All that talk about blocking and tackling and being tough. This was the time to run a QB sneak right behind Andy Levitre and keep the ball.

I am an Italian American-American Native. I must say that I am very tired of the political correctness stuff. I don't hate the Redskins now because I didn't hate them 40 years ago when no one cared about this crap. In today's world I can't even say Merry Christmas to you because someone else might get offended. You can't say the Pledge of Allegiance in a public school either because it mentions God. I boycott all this PC stuff. All of it. Including the zealots who insist on renaming sports teams. Treat people right. Do not pre-judge. Be nice and live good.

Flipper with a botttle cap? It is a Dolphin jumping through a hoop, and the hoop is the sun. Bottle cap?

Trent is going to start. Hey the first drive was good.

Decent QB pressure? In the first half we had no sacks and no pressures. Maybin was owned by a rookie in his first start. Maybin also had a late hit on their second possesion, which, by the way kept the Skins drive alive. BTW - Maybin is still in the game in the fourth quarter playing against fodder. He has made some QB pressures in the second half but is lost on running plays.

This is a tough call. Edwards did not throw on time because he was quickly flushed out of the pocket. Chambers was a turnstile as usual. Evans needs to get to the ball and help the QB out. When a QB throws on the run the WR needs to be moving too. I put this one on Evans.

Yeah I know it is early, first preseason game, new coaching staff and all that stuff. • Good first drive mixing runs and short passes. A stupid holding penalty by Stupar killed a 22 yard run to the 3 by Lynch. We salvaged a FG. • Defensive starters stopped the run in the two series that they played. Starting front seven was Edwards, Williams and Stroud. Torbor, Mitchell, Davis, and Ellis. • Pass rush was not there. No QB pressures. Nothing. • Maybin played on 3rd down passing downs. He was swallowed up by rookie Trent Williams. Maybin had a stupid roughing the passer penalty on a 3rd and 6 stop. That kept the skins aliove and they went on to score a TD. • Trent Edwards looked ok on the first drive and bad after that. Pressure on him from the right side led to mistakes and rushed passes. • The OL was bad. They starters from right to left were: Chambers, Corrado Something, Hangartner, Levitre, Meredith. Pass protection was good on the left side and horrid on the right. • On the Edwards interception Kirk Chambers missed his man completely. Edwards was flushed out of the pocket and threw on the run to an open Evans. Evans stopped moving and the DB went for the ball and got the pick. Theisman (the TV analyst) called out Evans for quitting on the play and he was correct. Evans did not go back to the QB, if he had he would have had the reception. • Our 3rd defensive series featured a different set of front 7 and they were very bad as a unit. Also, TSW fan favorite George Wilson missed several tackles in the secondary allowing big gains. • Our offense continued to sputter. Chambers had two false starts and was schooled in pass protection. The starting offense went 3 and out in their third series. • Fourth series and we still had the starting offense in there. We had a 3rd and 15 and Edwards hit Steve Johnson on a catch and run for 14.9 yds. Curiously Gailey lined them up in short yardage formation and did not run a play. Straight from the Dick Jauron book of play calling. We had a chance to practice a meaningful 3rd and inches and we flinched. That hurt. • Spiller had one run for greater than 10 yards and looks very explosive. • Carrington and Troup looked like rookies. • Fitz played the last series and looked lost. • 21-3 at halftime. • As I type this we are getting pummeled in the second half and Theisman just mentioned that the Bills as a team look tired and have no legs. Long way to go.

I saw that. They covered Trent Williams, then Shanny, then McNabb, then Haynesworth. I started to think what about the Bills when Eisen says "30 seconds, anything to say about the Bills?" I was shocked to see Faulk look down and shake his head no. The body language said it all. What happened? Why did he do this?

Do we need a thread on yet another prediction that we will suck? That is about normal. The media reads what the media puts out. What else is anyone going to say? 1. We did not hire a big name Coach 2. We did not draft a QB until round 7 3. We did not draft a tackle until round 5 4. We are changing the defense 5. Spiller is great but why did we draft him? 6. We lost Owens, Schobel, Butler and Reed. We added Winkin', Blinkin' and Nod. 7. Our best player is a punter 8. We play in Toronto 9. Ralph Wilson is still the owner 10. It snows in Buffalo but the wings are great No ONE is going to predict a good season for this team. BTW - My prediction is 8-8.

Thanks for the laugh.

So are we all former communists?

No. Win on Sunday starting on September 12th.

Butkus was dominant at his position and deserves to be there. Sounds like you never saw him play? If I were a GM and Joe Greene, John Hannah, and Walter Jones were all on the draft board I would pick Joe Greene and I would sprint to the podium to do it. Don't get me wrong, Hannah and Jones were great players but Greene was a game changer. Larry Allen? I have to chuckle at that one.

I lived there for a year. I must say, #2 at what? It was pretty bland back then ... loaded with subsidized pre-planned neighborhoods and overpriced town houses in 1992.

You are wrong at so many levels. His size, his pass defense skills, the fan favorite bit, the issues with the law, durability. Pretty much everything you said is 100% wrong. Congrats for your consistency!

OJ belongs on this list. He was the player of the decade for the 70's and the 70's made the NFL.