Bob in STL

If we do this .... 1. RUN 2. STOP the RUN 3. Put pressure on Cassel 4. Stop all the turnovers

Fischer was as 7th round pick. A 7th rounder pick CANNOT be a bust. He had an excelent career for a 7th rounder. He had 8.5 sacks for the Ram on Super Bowl team. He had 9 sacks season for the Seahawks too. Greggo gave up on him too soon.

Williams (OT), Patulski (DE), Gant (TE) and Cowlings (DE)all played and started. They were just not very good. Gant had a couple of good games but was very inconsistent overall. Tony Hunter (TE) played for a little bit but accomplished little. Cousineau (LB) - at least he played in the NFL and was worthy of a pick. The worst picks are the guys that never got on the field and faded out of the league after their first contract: Phil Dokes (DT), Booker Moore (RB), Tom Rudd (LB), Perry Tuttle (WR), and Eric Flowers (DE) top the list. John McCargo (DT) is all set to join this group. Maybin (DE/LB) could be destined to as well. The list is long and it is littered with defensiuev linemen too.

If they beat the Chiefs will you start a thread on them going to the playoffs?

No. Draft guys that are going to be good football players in the NFL. Draft guys that are animals and absolutely hate to lose. Do you think for a minute that Ray Lewis was going to tolerate losing the game on Sunday? Too much emphasis on measurables and schemes is what got us in trouble.

Agree. Look at London Fletcher. He is smaller than Maybin, went undrafted out of John Carroll College, yet he has been in the NFL for 13 years without ever missing a game. Coaches love him because he brings it. He has been a captain on every team he was on. He had a SB ring, pro bowls, 1000-ish tackles and lots of big plays. I look at Maybin and I don't see anything.

Did you watch any preseaon games? Put him in as a linebacker in open space and you can run straight at him and right over him. He is absolutely horrible against the run. He is weak and gets moved easily. His instincts are poor. He best opportunity is as a pass rusher were he can use his speed to get around a tackle and get to the QB. Of course, we are still waiting for him to accomplish this feat in a real game.

Says who? Lets play the game and see who is better. I like our chances.

Why are you blaming Edwards for Maybin's problems. Don't you think Edwards would love it if Maybin produced? Maybe the reason Edwards has "shown us nothing" is because Nix and company were relying on Maybin to step up. Chan does not appear to be very happy with Maybin either. So why should Edwards play him? Jauron drafted Maybin and he didn't play him either. Maybin has been horrible in all facets of the game, even special teams.

Doubt it. Maybin's physical and mental limitations are the problem.

I sure hope you don't break your arm while patting yourself on the back. I do pay attention to details. He looked good. Especially considering his first start, on the road, and against a strong defense. Fitz had time to go deep and to look recievers off. Howard had no penalties and gave up no sacks. I do not think that Cornell Green accomplished that in any of his starts. What do you want? I am not ready to anoint him as the next Howard Ballard at RT. He will have some tough games. Speed rushers could give him problems as he is more likely to be a guard in this league than a tackle that has to play in space.

We played mostly a 4-3. We loaded up to stop the run and did ok compared to previous weeks. Our bigger problem was lack of pressure on the QB. That and no ability to cover a tight end.

His decision to run out the kick-off at the end of the first half was a bad one. He is young and he will get better. Experience will help all aspects of his game. I still like him and I think he will be star someday.

What was the debate?

OK guys he said he was wrong. I personally do not believe that Fitz is the long term solution but I definitely want him on my team. We should draft a legitimate QB prospect (not a 7th round flyer) and then make the prospect take the job away from Fitz, not hand it to him. The prospect should hold the clipboard for a while and learn from Fitz. Fitz is smart, dedicated, and has great leadership skills. Fitz is a gamer. We saw it last year. The team responds to him and plays for him. If the blocking can hold up, and if we can plug some holes on the defense we will win a few games this year.

This is a sign of progress. Now look at the players that made big mistakes like Spiller and Edwards and you have to believe that they will learn and get better. We have a long way to go but today was a positve step.

He played very well. We may have found a player with this kid.

Excellent idea. The draft is the best way to build but we cannot ignore free agency like we did last year.

Fitzpatrick went 29-of-43 passing for 373 yards and four touchdowns -- three to Evans and another to Steve Johnson. The four TD passes were the most against the Ravens since Peyton Manning did it for the Indianapolis Colts in December 2007. Oh yeah, great prediction!

I don't perscribe to any theory that Fitz is a number 1 QB as he lacks accuracy and consistency as a passer. However, please don't cheapen his performance by saying he is playing against backups. I did not see any backup in the Ravens game or the Pats both of which went down to the wire. I don't recall him playing against backups versus the Jags and Jets for that matter.

Fox or Ryan would be awesome. Phillips is a good DC but he will never come to Buffalo as long as Wilson is alive. Remember that Ralph tried to not pay Wade after he fired him. The league had to step in.

Seems like you have been gone all season? Welcome back and right on. I don't hate Whitner like you do but i I really wish he would stop talking and tweeting and focus on play better.

I actually thought it was the wrong call but I am not clear on the rule. He had on foot down, and his second foot landed on the Ravens ankle not the turf. It looked like his elbow landed inbounds before he was thrown out of the end zone. So he has a foot down and an elbow down. Does that mean anything? I usually agree with you on these issues but I have to say that forward progress was clearly stopped and then he was stripped. Edwards blew it and he should have taken care of the ball but the refs made the wrong call. I will agree that we have too many players that do not know how to win. Add Spiller to the list with his stupid kickoff return and fumble at the end of the half.

Check my posts and you will see I have been ragging him this year. I don't like his speed and he has a tendency to stop running his pattern when the pass is delivered. Today he showed me somethng. He still has a ways to go but today he showed me something.

Stupid play by a vet but I can't be made at him. They handled one of the best front fours in the league today. Horrible call by the ref. The Ravens did not need the 15 yards, the refs gave them the game.