Bob in STL

Anyone remember Abdullah The Butcher on Championships Wrestling?

You just proved my point, Head coaches have been calling offensive plays since the 50's, 60's, 70's. The coaches you named have offensive assistants but they call they shots. Brown, Allen, Lombardi, Stram, Landry, Shula, Noll, Walsh, the list is endless. Plays were sent down to Marv Levy too. Then the specialty coordinator thing started and all this offensive minded/ defensive minded baloney started where some HC's let the two coordinators run the game. But it does not have to be that way. My point is the HC is responsible for all of it, if he passes one or both phases of it to someone else that is his business.

No this is bigger than offense or defense or what the HC job was BEFORE he became the HC. I think he needs 3 to 4 years to do a fair assessment. My assessment will not be based on how good any one phase of the game is. It will be on the teams overall performance measured by wins and losses. His first year was excellent in that he won 9 games even after roster was stripped down. He had the team motivated and he overcame a horrible 3 game stretch were the defense was very poor. His 2nd year is a disaster and not likely to change. He will be accountable for the play on the field and the rebuild of the roster. So far in the past 1.5 seasons in the job he is not grading out very well.

Great job Shaw! Excellent work. My only rebuttal is that it is not all coaching, but coaching is a part of it. We have a roster that has been stripped down for two years and is now almost completely devoid of talent. The offense has only two players that are worthy to start on an NFL team - McCoy and Dawkins, and McCoy is looking like he is ready for a reduced role. The defense has been good at times but just wait until Kyle Williams, Jerry Hughes and Lorenzo Alexander leave ... the offense is so bad that it needs all of the top draft picks for the next 2 years to begin to recover and you and I know that we need linebacker depth and another starting CB. The backup depth is bad and you see it on special teams with penalties and poor kick/punt coverage in every game. When you look at all the players we traded, and then all the picks we traded to move up in the draft and then look at the return it is not pretty. It is starting to look like McDermott and Beane are over their heads but they get another year and in the next year they have tons of cap room and another bunch of draft picks. We will be picking in the top 4 for sure. Lets see what happens.

Offensive minded or defensive minded is a load of bunk that the media spews and fans buy into. A great head coach puts equal emphasis on all aspects of the game and has a strong say in who is personnel is across the board. The best coaches somehow have great coordinators in all phases of the game, then they lose them to other teams, and they bring in more great coordinators. Even wonder why? It because they oversee EVERYTHING and makes sure that its right.

... and Allen has 2 wins and was in good position for a 3rd. Allen has looked much better in my opinion.

Peterman's stats were ok but his passes were not on target, very often forcing the receiver to break stride to get the ball, which usually yields low YAC. Looking at the average yards per reception, it is low. Many 3rd downs were not converted because of this. Peterman played good for Peterman, but not even close to par for a NFL starting QB. Yes, his supporting cast sucks too but he simply does not make plays. Josh Allen has a long way to go in his development but you can at least see leadership ability and the athletic ability to make a few plays and inspire the team. Peterman does not do this.

He was not offered the Panthers job due to age and experience, other than that he is very highly respected. What th heck does clout have to do with anything? Does Clout help you pick good players? Pegula made the choice to hire McDermott first, let him run a draft and then hire Beane. A very odd way to do things. The idea of going for a QB in year 2 is all McDermott, he gave Taylor a chance and he left Mahommes and Watson on the board. Beanie comes in a blows up a marginal 9-7 playoff team in his first full year. We have a major project in Allen at QB, an aged running back, and nothing else on offense. That is were we are today. We look like a 3-13 team and will draft in the first 3 slots. Let’s hope he doesn’t blow it. Several of our best players on defense are old (Kyle, Jerry and Lorenzo). Our LB depth is very poor. I can see our defense dropping next year as we spend premium draft picks on OL and WR. Predictable mess.

So you don’t understand good behavior? What you saw should be the norm. The fans cheering after the pick 6 are smart enough to know we had no business keeping it close for that long. They are true fans hoping for better days and making the most of a fun Monday night. The Bills fans looked good on MNF and the National media acknowledged that as did Thurman in his jersey retirement. As for your behavior, seeking help is a good thing. No need to fight about a football game. Life is way to short.

You lost my in line 1. High producing offense - classic example of revisionist history. Yes right, Tyron Taylor and his prolific scoring machine Not at all happy with the off season moves either, the team is a mess, but really the offense was not great before McBeane.

Please stop.

Positives ? The season is half over.

Hogan , I remembered him.

Need more pressure. Not the refs fault.

Yeah right, all those points that Tyrod and Watkins piled up, how could I forget that. Below average offense before Wrecks, especially against a good defense, to the worst in the NFL.

I have never in 55 years of watching this team been less interested in a game as I am today. I am am sick of losing, sick of rebuilding, sick if the Pats*, sick of Brady, sick of being embarrassed in national TV. Maybe the stars align and we win but I don’t see a Derek Anderson led team pulling this off.

Check back in 2021to see.

The offense was poor when McD got here and it is even worse now. We do not have a QB. Until we get one we will be an after thought in the league. DEFENSE can win championships but you need some competence on offense Yes, the threads would have better tone if we were winning, that goes which any team.

Its that “making teams earn every point” part that was funniest. Have you seen our specials teams and offense? With this teams collective “heart and soul” they are good for about 4 or 5 wins. Enjoy.

Seems like times are bad now but this is not uncommon unfortunately. In the Bills history we have had only four good starters at QB, Kemp, Ferguson, Kelly, and Flutie. We have had only two good backups: Lamonica and Reich. Pretty sad but watching Anderson is not the worst I have seen.

I'm not so sure about that. It's true that talent has a lot to do with it and better teams have guys on their roster just for special teams. But lets not confuse better skill (talent) with basic execution and preparation. The penalties can be corrected and the ST coaching has to take accountability for the continuous stream of penalties such as offsides on kickoffs, holding gunners on punts, blocking players in the back that have no chance of making the tackle on returns. These things are happening multiple times in a games and in just about every game. Coaching is a big part of it. How about the lack of recognition on the punt rush that caved in the entire left side of the line? Those are the same blockers on every punt. Looks like we missed something or they saw something in the game film to take advantage of. That is preparation and that is coaching, Maybe better talent that would prevent the muffs and fumbles and the need to hold. We just do not have any kick return threats like we used to so that part of it does point to talent. Despite all this our FG kicker is nails and the rookie punter has blasted some deep punts with pretty good hang time. The two kickers are doing fine. Crossman has to do better. They all do.

Look at that list. They are not really rare, especially when we trade up and waste picks on Watkins only to let him go and see his classmates turn into game changers.

3. Refs - The refs set the tone early and often with holding calls on White. They called both holding and PI on that game changing call in the end zone and since the ball was out of bounds and likely not catchable the correct call should have been holding. That would be 5 yards from scrimmage and first down. Instead they put the ball on the 1 and sealed our fate. They missed a blatant PI on the Texans in the first half. They called Bodine for a ticky tack holding on a QB run but let Hughes be held on numerous occasions. The holding and PI calls aside, ALL the other calls on the Bills were correct and point to a much bigger problem. Multiple illegal formation calls in a game for several weeks now. Multiple holding on the punt team and offsides on the kickoff team. These thing are happening every week. That is were I blame the coaches. Which takes me to item #10. 10. Coaching - The defense coaches and game plan was brilliant. The rest of the staff, including McD did a lousy job. Look at the penalties, the atrocious special team, the predictable uninspired offense. Special Teams and Offense set up or gave up all the points in this game. Blocked punt, fumbled punt return, muffed kicks, penalties on coverage, horrible field position, erratic play, not at all solid. The punter and kicker are saving the other 10 guys on the special teams. There are breakdowns every week. As for the offense game plan and preparation ... I don't need to explain a thing. How many games are we going to win averaging 12-13 points a week?

This is a rebuild. We won 9 games in year 1 of a rebuild. It took a 41 yard PI call in the end zone and a Peterman pick 6 to keep us from going 3-3 and 2 road wins. So we are an ugly 2-4, looking at 5 or 6 wins this year. The offensive talent is very poor, we have a rookie QB who is not ready for prime time. Hang tough.

Interesting take Mrs. Peterman