JohnNord

And they will. WR2 was the biggest question going into the offseason. I don’t think it happened for a few reasons. First the Bills love Gabe and truly had hoped his inconsistent 2022 was related to the ankle injury. Second, they knew the team was likely out of range to land one of the top WR’s in the draft. Third, the team had limited cap space and needs at a few positions. They thought money was better spent on a player like McGovern. Basically they put a lot of faith in Gabe to take the next step it never happened.

I don’t think anyone doubted his ability. The question was whether he could be an effective WR2 on a full time basis. We’ve seen it in flashes but never consistently. In the end, I think he answered the question for him. He can be a good receiver that can help an offense but is probably not consistent enough to be a big-time WR2

This game was disgusting for NYJ. It’s been a while since I’ve seen a QB play so poorly. To be fair Douglas and Saleh put all of their eggs in the Rodgers basket which dictated a lot of really bad choices that screwed them over - namely Hackett, Lazard, Cobb, Boyle and Cook. Sadly, they are stuck with several of these people next season. I get that Zach Wilson has been a disappointment but they probably fare better with him or Simian as QB.

He helped immensely in the blocking game as a WR. He was mostly a non-factor on the passing game as a WR.

This is what I’ve always said. If you want McDermott to be fired, you should hope they lose out. The more losses would increase the likelihood of him getting fired. Although, he re-signed this summer, so there’s a chance it might not make a difference.

100% this is exactly about attention. Wilson is in his 3rd season when a QB is supposed to break out. Rodgers damn well knows sitting on the bench wouldn’t make a damn difference

Im sure throwing players or coaches under the bus would do wonders for morale

All GM’s miss on draft picks. Especially in the late 1st/2nd round. It sucks but it happens to every team. If you’re hoping for Beane or McDermott to be fired…you will be disappointed in 2024 when both when both return.

Check out this tweet from Channel 4’s Josh Reed: https://x.com/4joshreed/status/1716620665220907436?s=46&t=8ZEIwokTeanemk54SQ608g “I can’t believe we are at this point but… If the Bills don’t win Thursday they may be active at the trade deadline but at 4-4 and with Cincy, Philly, KC, Miami to go, maybe they’re not buyers.” This is an interesting scenario because we’ve talked a lot of trading for players to “save” the season at the deadline. But I do t think you do this unless you really believe you have a team that can go all the way. So if the injured are defense are deemed too much do the Bills run a one-week fire sale for players on expiring contracts like Davis, Epinesa…maybe a Ryan Bates, in an attempt to recoup picks to re-load for next season? This is why IMO the NFL hasn’t extended the trade deadline a bit later. They don’t want to give teams the options to do this. I personally don’t believe the Bills feel that at 4-4, the season is finished. It wouldn’t be impossible for a playoff spot and I don’t think you sacrifice your chance at playoffs in week 9.

This post is absolutely laughable… we have no idea how Ben Johnson would be as HC. At one time Adam Gase was considered “the best young offensive mind.” Every good draft pick = Beane Every bad draft pick = Beane (with McDermott’s footprints) 😂

Not sure what you mean with people being comfortable in their jobs. I don’t think anyone is comfortable, I’m just stating what the facts are and all lead to the fact that it’s a damn near certainty McDermott won’t get fired. Not saying it’s Johnson but using him as an example of a up-and-coming OC with zero evidence that he’s guaranteed to be a good coach. It’s like the drought mentality “fire ______ because it can’t possibly be worse.” We’ve seen that it can

I think this offseason was always going to be the year where they re-tooled a bit - Super Bowl or no Super Bowl. There is an out in Tre White’s contract and I feel this will be exercised after this season. I agree that the Bills will move on from Poyer and probably Hyde too. Von Miller won’t go anywhere unless he retires. He’s on the books for one more season until they have an out. Same with Diggs Davis, Epinesa, and a lot of the DL depth are probably gone. So over the next few seasons we’re looking at replacing a lot of veteran players.

A few things that people don’t consider when they make statement like this: - McDermott and Beane signed a 3 year extension this offseason and are under contract until 2027. - Terry would need to buy out 4 years of his contract, as well as hire a new HC. - From a pure business standpoint, under McDermott the Bills have performed well by almost every metric except winning the SB. They have four very successful, winning seasons, not the case with the Sabres. - Terry respects and admire Sean and has given him a tremendous amount of power and autonomy around OBD. - Everyone wants to talk about Denver firing John Fox for Gary Kubiak. It was a huge gamble that worked for Denver. Firing Marty didn’t help SD take the next step. Besides these moves don’t happen much. In the end, there is zero doubt in my mind that even after a 7-10 finish, McDermott would get a chance in 2024. I think Terry believes he’s earned that

There is a ton of revisionist history in this thread. Who is the elite HC and OC that you want to hire? They don’t grow on trees. Some people here assume that a “hot” coordinator like Ben Johnson in Detroit is the answer. We have no clue he’d be as HC - he has zero experience. He also scored 6 points in a huge game versus Baltimore.

This guy is as much of an “insider” as we are

Obviously Ed Oliver’s injury doesn’t help. But NE’s offensive line has struggled pretty bad this season too. So I think I’d call it more of push than a disadvantage

He has a point though. It’s useless trying to have this debate because there’s not a remote chance of it happening. It’s like starting a thread called “should the Bills trade Gabe Davis for Devante Adams?”

This was such a horrible horrible time in Bills history. The way Buddy Bic handled this situation was so horrendous to the point that he to trade Lynch when his value was probably at an all-time low in terms of compensation. There are some Bills fan who think Buddy was a good GM, I’ve always felt he was a joke

I have a feeling it will be a close ugly game. A bit worried because Ed Oliver probably won’t be playing making the Bills weak up front and light at LB. Also the only place where NE is good is defending the run making the Bills one dimensional. Would not be shocked to see a loss

No… if you read my comment above, I think it had more to do with someone of the comments he made about the offense earlier that season and the info from the Flores lawsuit

They’ll find a way for him to be a gadget guy again…Jets are so stupid. Sign Hardman and then replace with old man Cobb a month later to make ARod happy

My theory: I think the most obvious one here is that at some point there seemed to be some friction with how the offense had been performing toward the middle of 2021 dropping 3 out of 4 games. I’m sure this led to resentment from Daboll, because it’s not like the Bills D was playing “lights out” either, which *could have been behind many reporters interpreting McDermott’s comments about the offense akin to “throwing his OC under the bus.” Daboll was well-liked by the media and had a great relationship with many. Perhaps this period is what led to Daboll’s alleged unhappiness, which came out in the Flores lawsuit. Seeing this news probably was embarrassing to McDermott on top of already having some tension in the past. This coupled with a ***** performance from his team is probably what led to McDermott bouncing Had nothing to do with this game

He looks like his twin

I think we all overreact to the final results on Sunday to an absolute extreme. Josh Allen looked like crap and threw 3 INT’s against the Jets in Week 1, we assume the Bills will look like crap all year along and he’ll lead the league in INTs. The Bills look like world-beaters by destroying Miami in Week 4, we assume every week is going to be an onslaught and that the team will never lose. Since the Bills struggled to beat the Giants means they will struggle against similar teams and get blown out by good ones Kansas City. The Bills at 6-0 vs. The Bills at 4-2, probably doesn’t mean that much in Week 7 in terms of Super Bowl aspirations. So much can still happen in a season resulting a negative or positive result and what happens one week, doesn’t necessarily carry over into the next.

I think it’s a bit of an overreaction IMO. The Bills have won more games than almost every other team in the NFL the past 4 seasons. Obviously they haven’t won a Super Bowl but we all know what happened… the thing is to win a SB you really need to have a lot go right. There are many years where the best team that season hasn’t won’t a SB or even made it there. I know you’re not in this boat, but thing that people who demand firing one of the most successful coaches in team history fail to realize is that making a move doesn’t ensure that things get any better. There are people who have said the Bills should fire McDermott and hire someone w/o any HC experience like Ben Johnson in Detroit just because he’s the “hot name.” Plenty of good assistants have made terrible coaches. Everyone wants to point to John Fox in Denver but that situation is an outlier. When SD fired Marty, they didn’t fair much better and never made it out of the playoffs. Marty’s firing in itself is somewhat of an outlier as well. Besides this whole point is moot, because the chances of a McDermott firing are slim-to-none considering he re-signed a new deal.