QLBillsFan

Nobody said that. I don’t think he should play if he’s hurt. See TT and the Dolphins. The 💯 guarantee is what he’s hung up on. The team doesn’t want to be on the hook for a guy not contributing. It’s a risk at 60% but at 100 with a guy who has been injured shouldn’t be that hard to fathom.

What is the record of other top NFL teams when the qb doesn’t play? With the exception of SF not that great. So you’re seriously basing your view of the Ravens on W-L record when their oft injured QB doesn’t play. The Ravens are a minimum top 10 franchise in the NFL by all measures.

Unless he gets hurt frequently 🤷🏻‍♂️

Yeah so that’s an average of $44m+ with 💯 guaranteed. JA is at an average of $43m with 60% guaranteed. What a preposterous offer!!!

Right and he’s the starting QB for the Ravens for $32m. Well under his value because he didn’t take offers well over that. And he’s asking for fully guaranteed $.. so he will be the starting QB for the Ravens to build on that record. Or he sits and loses more $$$.

Plenty of teams are giving out QB guarantees… but nothing close to 100%

I think he will get the tag of $32ish unless he sits out? So then for 2 straight years LJ will have given away let’s say $42m a year less what he will have earned for the past two years.

Actually everyone connected to the NFL has voiced that the Watson guaranteed contract is beyond foolish. Not even considering what a great guy Watson is. It’s a dreadful contract according to literally any person who follows the NFL from a business perspective.

What exactly was he offered ? You know this how? He claims he was offered $133m for 3 guaranteed. Others suggest that deal was closer to $200m apparently with more years. What specific offer was he given that you are sure was “ below” his market?

I haven’t seen anyone here who suggests that. I think the Jones contract was high for sure. The other two seem about right in this market. What we do know is this. LJ wants all his $250 guaranteed. The only one losing minds are people who think that makes sense to the Ravens or any team not from Cleveland.

Good move by Boys. He’s still solid CB in this league.

Nice try! JA was from the same draft class. I think an argument could have been made when JA signed his deal, they were both in the same range for a contract. Since, JA used an agent and signed his first big deal- now looking like a Bills bargain. He believed this is the right place for him. LJ, no agent, somewhat inconsistent with a few injuries. Apparently not on the same page as the Ravens. A team well respected in the game. Who built an O around him. He has rewarded them by not signing what appears to have been excellent offers. Although not completely idiotic like the Browns. This is where those who follow the NFL suggest the Ravens are getting it right. Value vs reward. Clearly the Ravens and NFL don’t feel he’s worth it. And it’s speculative that if a team creates a deal for LJ and the Ravens match they are out of luck. That team is then not in a good position for other moves in FA.

Lot of good points. MVP is like a snapshot in time. Is he currently on a trajectory for MVP seasons in the future? A good QB I won’t argue. Essentially it’s about value and I think we agree on it.

What has he proven for a guarantee $133M 3 year deal? He continues to refuse to get an agent even though he brags about this offer he turned down. He wants more than that! His value isn’t worth his ask. And he’s demonstrating a huge self awareness maturity issue. And he’s getting the same result. No contract. For an oft injured 1-3 playoff qb that has to have an O created around his skill set. He’s a good qb (8-12) but many going back to his draft year aren’t convinced he’s a SB qb.

Well actually not true. Reid has been outstanding in OL evaluation. Your point that he’s not good at it uses the SB loss to TB. Where both OT’s were injured and they had to play back ups. Lucky on Creed ? Well others teams were not smart enough to be lucky? PFF if paid by agents seems to have some flaws along with what is the player’s assignment. PFF has some value but it has some flaws as well. I’ll take SB winning Reid as a better talent evaluator on this one.

And there it is. It’s too late to fix this year 🤷🏻‍♂️So fire all staff and player vets that are unsigned. Start over. Ok I can see why you think the Bills can’t contend. The multi year approach starts next year ?? Since it’s too late ?

Ok sure. I am of the opinion that once FA settles and the draft is done, the Bills will continue to contend. But what is your point ? What specifically do you want the Bills to do? They have a plan that you clearly don’t like. The dufus coach and the other things you provided here seem all over the place. You’re the GM. Someone came back and gave specifics on where KC has been better building the OL. BB has not been great building the OL. That’s a fair assessment. Great you take the field, I’ll take the Bills. Anything else you have to offer ?

Good points on Creed. I’m all about an OT in the 1st or 2nd!

Well the Cowboys blog says they would have liked to keep him as he was solid. But not at that price. The track record is not perfect but certainly not awful. Dawkins and Morse come to mind. I think they will draft an OT fairly early based on this to complete with SB at RT. You don’t like the move. Ok got ya. Your recommendation?

Fair point. Risner was on the radar as well as Powers. Powers was bit pricey and Risner while more proven also may have been too $$$. It’s certainly a bit of risk. Maybe this year our OL guru will develop these guys 🤷🏻‍♂️

Right and are you suggesting they were not good signings? It’s the BB approach to sign players young on the upswing? And your sure it won’t work because why ???

He’s started 15 games in the NFL and grades out well, particularly in pass protection. This is a typical BB move. Young player (25) with best play ahead of him. See Hyde and Poyer. Seems to be very strong move.

What are you taking about ? Yes the Bills have a plan. You don’t agree with the plan apparently. What specifically don’t you like about BB’s plan about 3 hrs into non tampering FA? The fact he signed a young good pass blocking OG with flexibility? Ok I’m going to give a few days before I attack or support where the Bills are at. You’re convinced the Bills won’t compete for the AFC. You could be right but Vegas and others may disagree. I’ll grant you the AFC is going to be a challenge. But I’m confident the Bills will be in the mix.

Good for him. Not real impressed with his SM stuff. Go play for the Bills rival. Just stop telling the world about it. At $10 m Bills need to pass on this deal.

Wow all over the place. Pretty funny stuff. No plan is my favorite.