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Very tragic events. The overall tone of the article is bleak. I think his overall portrayal of the atmosphere is pretty on the money. It is what it is.

He had a good column about the Toronto series last week as well.

Sounds like you hit some cool spots. Bar Bill wings are awesome.

EJ missed most of preseason and a good chunk of the regular season. He is still behind. We will know much more next year. From the what I've seen I'd say I'm cautiously optimistic.

Toronto would be a terrible stand alone market if the Bills moved permanently there. And I mean standalone in that, zero people from Buffalo and Rochester would be traveling up there to pay big ticket prices to watch a team that was "stolen" away. The Bills in Toronto series, if anything, has exposed Toronto as a lukewarm, at best, NFL market. I think you would have a hard time attracting free agents there and combine that with a fan base that doesn't have the passion for the team like the fans in Buffalo do and I would see a football wasteland. Somone in the toronto media this week media (I'm too lazy right now) to go back and look up who) in Toronto mentioned 25k to 50k PSLs to build a new stadium in Toronto. Uh uh. I can't see people ponying up that much. I could see people doing that for a second NHL team and arena in Mississauga. Best scenario is a new stadium in the Niagara area (American side) to make it easier for the hardcore Canadian fans to get to the game, with ownership by someone (not named Bon Jovi) based in Buffalo with a second game (at most) given to Toronto with reasonable ticket prices to lure the hardcore Buffalo fans north a few times a year.

I'd be happy with 8-8 in this rebuilding year. I thought we would beat Pitt. That ones smarts.

This a long shot- but if he did somehow get the Bills, I would be concerned he would move them. He is a smart business guy and a move would increase the value. I'd rather see Golisano or Jacobs step up. Golisano being my top choice- he has the cash and would never move the team. He has big league ownership experience with the sabres too.

The butt fumble will haunt the Sanchez and the Jets forever. A butt fumble in Buffalo makes no noise. In NYC, a butt fumble is immortal. It may have killed Sanchez's career.

Some great names there. The only "lock" I see is Polian- they may as well cast his bust right now.

I think that Syracuse is a dividing line. The fan base is divided with the Bills, Jets and Giants. As you keep progressing west that obviously switches to firmly Bills territory at Rochester and so on. I would guess that Syracuse would take an interest in whatever of those three is doing best at that time. During the Bills heyday, I bet there were more mid state Bills fans. I was born in Syracuse, but have been back very few times, so I really don;t know.

Here is a quote "Let's not get too excited about this win, I mean, it was the f-ing NY Jets."

He looked great today. I think having Johnson out benefited him. That is odd to say, I know, but he he always looks to him first. We have a deep receiving corps! The ball was spread around. I've said before, I see enough to think he will be good for us. He was a clear leader today.

Man- the old Aud I thought I was always going over in that place. It was steep.

Manuel has not played as much including preseason which is huge for development. So Smith has the benefit of more experience. Manuel either looks great - like today or he does nothing. Llke last week. He doesn't implode like smith today. Geno looked flat out awful.

Agreed on all fronts. I thought all of that stuff while it was going on.

From OP- a fan since I was a baby. No other way.

He will survive this year. Coughlin may too. If next year is the same, they will be goners.

I work close to Palo Alto and need to avoid the traffic. I'll be switching between this and the NFL tonight.

It is in Pitt, so that is probably the reason.

Good news- the Pittsburgh game will be much more interesting now.

I remember that game well since I was there. I had only been in San Francisco for about a year then. I thought of it yesterday too. If Holmes scored that day we likely win. We've had some bizarre plays that lead me to believe we are cursed.

Not good at all. Given the stress level, you would think this would happen more often. I am close to a heart attack every week just watching. Seriously no joking- hopefully all is well for coach Fox.

I was at that game. We walked from the W hotel where we are staying to the stadium. I recall little to no tailgating going on. I may heave seen you guys partying as I recall one car near the stadium with a group rocking out. I don't even recall many bars near the stadium to hang out in before.They had no real space for tailgating. I go to Seattle a lot and now they have a train to take people from the airport to downtown and it stops at the two stadiums, so there is even less of a need to drive to games there. I still don't see a ton of bars near the stadium though the whole corridor from the airport to downtown has been built up. Some places just don't have a tailgating culture.

I see Buffalo usually ranked in the top 5, but I've never seen #1. Green Bay, KC are always up there too.

A huge psychological boost for a young team, for sure. I win tomorrow or against the Chiefs and I think that the playoffs would not be out of the question.