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http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft06/news/story?id=2429172 Because of an NFL-NCAA agreement, a college player cannot take part in NFL spring workouts until his college has had its graduation. Because many schools hold graduation in early May, most NFL draft picks are not affected. But Holmes can't begin practicing until after the university's mid-June graduation. By then, the Steelers will have finished the 14 days of coaching sessions that follow their May 13-15 mini-camp, which Holmes is permitted to attend. When is Bills mini camp? It seems like Whitner and Youboty may also miss it. Hope I'm wrong.

Isn't he the writer who spread the rumor of Bills shopping JP? He has lost all his credibility since then.

We have holes, some are big holes and some are small. Most people think OT/DT/S are big ones and DE/LB are small ones. Our DE/LB are not big needs compared to OT/DT/S. Using a 1st round to draft a DE or LB doesn't help our team as much as draft a OT/DT/S, unless the player is Mario or Hawk.

Who said DB and LE aren't needs? Read the post again. Is it so hard to read the whole sentence? "DE and LE are not the most important needs (S, OT, DT) of our team"

Sorry if it's posted: http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft06/news/story?id=2428809

I'm convinced that Whinter would be gone after trading down. You can NOT be sure Whitner would be available several picks later and need to realize that Marv & Co didn't want to risk losing the player they like. DE and LE are not the most important needs (S, OT, DT) of our team. If Marv has done this, you all would have criticised his decision the way you criticise Whitner. You may also include "quantity over quality??", "ignore team's need", and "waste a 1st round on a possible backup" in your statements. In short, no matter what Marv did, it wouldn't satisfy all the fans. Some fans will always find things to criticise and believe they know more football than NFL GMs, coaches, and scouts.

Trade down? Draft different players? Fill all holes in one draft? Stop whining!! What makes you so sure Whitner and McCargo would still be available several picks later? How do Clayton, Mort, and other writers know this? All of you don't have a clue, and none of you was in the war rooms of the teams picked after Bills. Marv & Co didn't want to risk losing the players they really like. If you prefered to draft different players in the same spots but didn't have any real football experience in evaluating college prospects, stop using mock drafts to criticise Marv and shut up!! If you couldn't be sure that Whitner and McCargo would be available several picks later, shut up too!! If you liked to grade a draft before any of the rookies plays a NFL game, try to realize this is a meaningless grading and come back three years later. Also, get a life!!

Don't worry, I never judge young players before they're several years in the league. Hope some day you'll learn it's not smart to grade a draft before any of the rookies plays a NFL game.

Thanks for the grading, which means absolutely nothing before any of the rookes plays a NFL game. By the way, my lucky 8 ball says "wait for 3 seasons and then grade the draft class".

Don't run away and cry, meathead.

Better than a guy like you without a brain.

No, you're wrong again

You already write Roscoe off after one year in NFL. No wonder you like to grade a draft before the rookies play a NFL game.

good, the whole thread proves the grading on this draft now means absolutely nothing.

Isn't B better than C+ ??

Didn't you post the same thing about 10 minutes ago and nobody replied to you? Nice way to get attention by reposting the same stuff again and again.

Because Marv & Co believed Whitner and McCargo wouldn't be available several picks later.

Exactly, these board experts should stop using mock drafts to criticise Marv's picks.

You are obviously not aware that Levy has long history of evaluating college prospects.

You should stop reading mock drafts and assume you're a draft expert. Also, reading Clayton's or Kiper's columns also won't help you. Was any of them at the war rooms to know how the draft board was ordered? Do you know there're 'backups' and in a football team? How about 'special team'? Again, how do you know Whitner and McCargo would be available in several picks laters? Because Clayton, Kiper, or the so-called "experts" said so? Were they at the war rooms of the teams picked after Bills so they're sure Whitner and McCargo would be still on board? No, they were not, just like all the fans.

If Marv had drafted Davin Joseph at #8, many board 'experts' would have asked for his head or simply killed themselves. Their mock drafts didn't say so!!!

Any draft grades before the rookies play a NFL game mean nothing. My lucky 8 ball does as good grading as these 'experts'.

Just show a mock draft which has FEW picks which was actually notable drafted higher. And you haven't responded the mock drafts which have Whinter at #8 and McCargo at late 1st round. Don't these mock drafts count?

Really!? Show a mock draft which only has few notable exceptions. How many mock drafts have Mario Williams at #1 overall? How about Leinart in #10? How about Chad Jackson in second round? How about Winston Justice in second round? How about Ashton Youboty in third round? How about D.Bing and G.Watson not drafted after round three? These are the picks which are way off. The Whitner and McCargo picks are not that "off" compared to above examples. (The only person said McCargo was projected to 3rd round was Kiper and he said that was "some time ago") Also, don't forget that there're mock drafts which have Whitner goes to Bills at #8 and McCargo goes to late 1st round.