Milanos Milano

LOL it’s good he didn’t perform at the NFL combine or he’d be lucky to go in the first round. He likely would have struggled against the sled and bench press. Right now scouts are basically living off the USC game, which is way to emotional. At this point Kincaid is strictly a 4.7 big slot receiver which I dunno how well that is going to translate against NFL talent. Kincaid struggled against Florida to get separation.

Kelce ran a 4.6 , Gronkowski ran a 4.7 . Kelce is 6’5 250lbs and Gronkowski was 6’6” 265lbs. Just for some context. Dawson Knox 6’4” 254lbs. Kincaid 4.7 6’4” 240lbs Mayer 4.7 6’4” 265lbs

Dawson Knox also ran a 4.59 at the combine, so eventhough his stats were marginal in college and he played a way different role for his team, the potential was obviously there. So I know stats don’t tell the whole story, but Knox is a bit of a misnomer because of his teams poor utilization of his talents.

Fun fact looking at the Mayer vs Kincaid things. Mayer often time had a higher % of the rec pie vs the rest of the WRs on their team than Kincaid, AND with ND running the ball more often. That tells me Mayer would have had even better results vs Kincaid had his OC game planned differently. Mayer was often featured more often, because he was clearly the best receiving threat on the team, whereas Kincaid wasn’t featured as much despite being touted as the better WR option. Mind you, they both run a 4.7

I do not know why people keep saying this. They both have similar yardage and TDs numbers. The major difference is Mayer can block really well. They both run a 4.7 , so it’s not like he can’t get down the field as good as Kincaid.

When I scout, I want to see consistency, I want to see how well they do against top ranked teams and SEC schools. I want to see how they do against players that are getting drafted or projected to get drafted in the coming years. I also want to see the % of targets they are commanding per game and how talented their QB/WR/RBs are relative to their respective peers. Obviously watching how one separates is important, if they are getting consistently open, but are having low targets, that’s a QB problem. Honestly it would be really nice if someone developed an algorithm to determine how much exact space they were generating per route ran vs opponent strength. I would have to go back and watch the entirety of the game, I didn’t particularly watch that game. I’m not a real scout that gets paid, I can’t dedicate every single second of my time to doing major analytical projects. Although I feel I would pretty good at it if I was awarded an opportunity for such time dedication.

Let me start a better statistical breakdown, and maybe I will make a thread about it. But let’s just take one example. Utah played Florida (at the time a non ranked SEC school), they lost 29-26, he had only 2 receptions for 29 yards. He had 2 receptions of of 22 thrown for approx 10% of the throws. His team ran 39 times. 3 other receivers on the team had more receptions than he did. I’m using SEC as the gold standard for now. Was he getting open and his QB couldn’t find him, or was he struggling against SEC level talent and just couldn’t get targeted because he wasn’t open?

Kincaid had only 5 games with 5+ rec. Where Mayer had 8 games with 5+ rec. Kincaids 5 games came against SUU, USC, WSU, Oregon, and Colorado Mayers 8 games came against USC, BC, UNLV, Stanford, BYU, UNC, Marshall, Ohio State

Maybe they did, I’m not exactly sure how much time analysis they dedicate to each and every prospect they filter. Obviously they can’t go to every game or watch every single snap of every single prospect they put grades on. There are quite a few non productive games that Kincaid had against okish teams that are a little concerning. You usually want to see a 1st round talent have fairly consistent games. Mayer had more 60yrd+ games then Kincaid, against slightly better teams. There were many times Kincaid wasn’t even top 2 on the team in receiving games, where Mayer had more, etc.

If this is true, then it’s pretty sad if pro scouts get sucked into individual games. When you talent evaluate, you have to take way more into consideration than just great performances at random times. That’s to emotional for analytical accuracy.

Just hopefully nobody traps our beaver

L?

Given McDermotts propensity for bringing in quality CBs, I have at least some hope for the 7th rounder.

First 2 picks were good. Outside of that left a lot to be desired. C+

It’s his one reward I’m willing to give a really long leash. He’s earned that right from past results.

Rick Flair

Sorry sarcasm doesn’t do well here lol

Maybin

Beavers! Well otherwise you have to chew the trees.

With his lack of speed, I hope so.

This is one area of the draft I don’t question Beane/McDermott on. Corners are one thing our talent evaluators are elite at.

Clockwork, commercial when bills pick.

LOL only a magician could have a -ROI

Ekiyor and Ojomo are the last ones on my board. Everyone else got taken that I had any interest in.

I’d rather have Vorhees than Shorter. Hands down.