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Who’s the problem if it isn’t McDermott or Beanes? The players? Who is responsible for acquiring these players? Who is responsible for positioning those players in strategic positions to win games? How am I being dishonest, I’m just trying to figure out who gets the most blame as objectively as possible and only one other poster in here has tried to do so. I’m thankful that poster has contributed great substance.

Maybe I will do just that. I’m surprised no kind of overall roster talent gauge exist. If it already does, it would be nice to see the links.

So let’s discuss the issues here, what assumptions? How do you go about determining why we haven’t won Super Bowls?

Why can’t you guys stick to football discussions instead of making ad hominem gestures? It’s a football debate.

Because how can I blame McDermott if we can at least come to some approximate gauge to what is roster talent rankings? We need to be able to determine a good metric before we can start placing blame on coaching. What we do know is we have a top 3 QB statistically despite having below average line play. Which is really incredible to think about.

So statistically we didn’t have the worst punter in the league talent wise? So statistically we didn’t have the top 3 QB in the league talent wise? What about other positions on the team?

Well we know one thing, we can’t blame the Pegula’s for the lack of spending money. They have been adamant about spending up to the max cap. They have the final stamp of approval though on Beane and McDermott, so that discussion is still viable. But you can’t fault them for a lack of trying like Ralph seemed to lack sometimes. So we resort to ad hominem now instead of content discussions? You are better than that.

False. Because they have failed to WIN Super Bowls. That’s why we play the game. Whether we are the Jets or super bowl losers is the same. Both pack up and go home. While it’s a great moral victory, it still isn’t enough and for that we need to figure out why? Why wasn’t it enough. Not good enough coaching or not good enough talent.

Are we certain this is the absolute case though? We haven’t even decided what is the best ways to gauge player talent and overall roster grades. We have a punter that was ranked last, a QB ranked in the top 3 in most metrics (despite poor linemen talent), and other players I’m not sure were they finished in statistical quartiles compared to other league players. We need to find a way to weight all of that when determining how good our talent is before we can start placing blame on coaching.

But isn’t coaching responsible in some ways to player execution? Or is that strictly under talent performance? If a player can consistently perform, is that a coaching issue or a talent issue? True or false, can a coach win with inferior talent if they are a superior coach with better strategy? How much can a coach, coach up? Preparedness? Situational awareness? Statistical advantages under certain situations that are diagnosed in real time?

Not necessarily. Sometimes superior talent makes mistakes against a nearly equal talent. But then again, that should be factored into overall talent. Because how can you be superior if you can’t win more consistently if you are truly “more talented” . If you have 2 players that can each run 4.45s , you want the player who can run 4.45s the most consistently and that’s a skill. Same with QBs or any position.

Statistical analysis isn’t subjective. Data is data. On paper the pats had more talent. I can’t say for certain because we haven’t discussed what is the best way in determining roster talent success. So if the pats had the better roster at that time, then that means the giants had better coaching to win the super bowl. That had to of been the case. The pats were obviously the more talented team on paper. I bet if we did a positional statistical quartile ranking of the teams talent, the giants would be below the pats that year in player performance metrics.

Yes. Because somewhere along the lines mistakes happened against a superior challenger at that time.

It depends how we decide on determining the gauge of roster quality. Obviously QB is the most important position in football, but it’s still a team sport. You could argue the Giants coaching is what made the difference that game because the pats had a good overall roster.

So applied across all team positions, where would the bills rank in overall roster talent in the league? Thanks for your honest attempt here at being critical. I appreciate that.

They were better in that moment of time. Keeping talent focused and consistent is a skill. The best find ways to stay consistent in their performances. It’s not always because of a lack of talent, but failure to recognize what is the best way to strategize against varying opponents. The best chess players in the world can win with different approaches at any given time.

Lack of winning Super Bowls is discussing performance. There must be reasons we aren’t winning them. Is it lack of talent or talent execution?

I refuse to believe this. Mistakes are preventable with either better coaching or better talent acquisition. Fumbling isn’t luck. Interceptions isn’t luck. Ball security is a skill, making good throws consistently is a skill. Optimizing football strategy is a skill. In game adaptation is a skill. Clock management is a skill.

Where did I say fire them? I simply want to know who is to blame more at this moment. Is it a lack of talent or coaching. It’s simple because that’s what determines success in sports is all about.

How is discussing a team’s performance dumb? Isn’t that goal here to win Super Bowls? Shouldn’t we be trying to find out why we aren’t winning Super Bowls? Do we need more talent?

We play to win the game. We play to win Super Bowls. That’s the goal right? If not, why even bother worry about who is employed. Why waste millions winning it all if Bills fans will buy tickets regardless. Well yes. Either the best coached team at that moment wins because they found a way to maximize their teams talents over the course of a consistent playoff duration. Some teams win Super Bowls with less than top 5 roster talent due to supreme coaching strategy. You don’t win Super Bowls because of luck. We are either lacking talent or talent execution? Which one.

Luck is a crutch that people use to excuse away failure. “Bad bounces” attributed because of a lack of ball security is talent or coaching failure. Football is all about talent and talent execution (strategy and maximizing player performance). NFL is hard. Is that what you are trying to tell me?

Well we have a top 3 QB statistically, so what’s our excuse?

Ah yes, good catch. But point still stands. Our talent acquisition hasn’t been good enough.

This is about since the Pegula’s have taken over. Is it a talent acquisition problem or a coach that squanders top 5 talent if you believe our roster is top 5 quality?