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He wasn’t good enough to keep around. Glad we didn’t pay anywhere near that amount.

Lol great minds think alike. Literally posted at the same time.

No sweating the competition this year.

If it wasn’t for Josh Allen, this team would be 4-13.

I don’t care anymore. If this team wants to carry over the same personnel and get beat by the Chiefs again, that’s their prerogative.

Then he either needs better surrounding talent or our coaching is the issue we aren’t winning Super Bowls.

I’m still not sold on Brady. He played with one of the best coaches ever (took a QB who threw a handful of times against us to the playoffs) , and Brady playing with one of the best supporting cast teams in years. While Brady is a great player, I’m not convinced he has more talent than Allen. Allen with Belichick likely wins the Super Bowls last year.

So should we or shouldn’t we attempt to try and find an objective answer? Don’t tell me it’s impossible. We just don’t have the proper data to make such a distinct determination yet. Doesn’t mean we can’t talk about methods in making it possible.

It takes an immense amount of time to break down every single minute detail that is ultimately important for even the smallest of changes. NFL teams don’t do enough statistical breakdown via machine learning. How often do we ever hear about average reaction times from Edmunds or average play in his space. Certainly there must be some metric that tracks individual players zone of expected coverage.

This is true to some extent, but I think there are deeper attributes affecting talent than just raw speed or height/weight. Mental processing is huge. Rarely do you ever hear stats about Edmunds closing speed, total reaction times vs ground covered, angle of pursuit, etc. Instincts are a very hard but important scientific measurement in NFL players. But usually tackles for loss or lowest yards allowed per tackle is a good starting point in determining how instinctive a player is.

So objective statistics outside of win/loss don’t exist for coaches? Not knowing which plays have higher probabilities of success don’t count? So you want McDermott to go all in on pocket 5s?

Imagine knowing which players weaknesses were based on play fakes and stiff arms. If you knew player X had more miss tackles if a stiff arm was involved, you would be more inclined to play with a stiff arm against that player on particular plays. Or if a corner struggled most on double moves, you would know to incorporate more of those moves, etc.

Stats can be objective. A punter averaging 46 yards isn’t subjective. They are real measured results. Josh Allen throwing 3 interceptions isn’t subjective. He threw 3 interceptions. Data can be collected under scientific criteria. We can gather probabilities based on player attributes given their top speeds and abilities. We can gauge average processing times. How long it takes for defenders to break on a play, or distance covered during plays. Angles taken on average. All of this is objective analysis that can spit out best probability outcomes. If you know statistically if defenders have calculated weaknesses, you can attack them better based on probabilities. That isn’t subjective, you are making moves based on objective analysis.

Thank you for being a valued poster here. Can’t wait to have further statistical analysis with you. I’m glad there are still posters like you around.

Of course they shift. That’s why you have real time percentages. AI programs are much much faster processing information of the best optimal play than humans are. Lol your last paragraph is something I would nearly expect. That’s much better than some coordinators just winging it.

There is a thing called objective statistical analysis.

Was Bryan Anger kicking from his own end zone and pinning the ball inside the opponents 10 yard line? He has a net average of over 50 yards.

Why not? Image if a program existed that could tell you opponents tendencies percentages under certain formations historically and in game techniques based on player attributes? Directly relay it to Josh so he could direct accordingly. It would be a huge benefit. You could run plays were formations have statistical probabilities to succeed in best spots around the field.

We can make this an objective topic with verifiable measurements and player attributes. Somewhere someplace someone must be making some kind of machine learning platform that incorporates all these performance metrics for best optimization for varying opponents. I can’t believe people aren’t feeding thousands of pre snap images into a program to diagnose best percentage probabilities for successful plays. We have strategic AI platforms for chess, and I’m sure there will be one for football someday where the program will take pre snap reads and spit out best options for favorable plays to run based on current roster talent attributes. Well sadly we had trash QB play at the time. It would honestly be cool if we employed a deep blue type program to be our coordinator. I’d be curious to see how much better a machine could be at calling plays based on probable outcomes based on opponent talent characteristics and scheme.

Objective data comes from verifiable measurements. We should be gathering the best objective football data we can and forming some kind of overall talent evaluation on a team. Objective data collection on coaching decisions and strategies is a bit harder. You would probably have to incorporate some kind of probability formulations based on pre snap looks and best statistical outcomes against said matchups. You would likely need a huge machine learning platform and feed thousands of images to determine the theoretical best counter attacks to choose from according to your player personnel performance qualities.

Which I’m ok with. It’s high time we acquire better talent at multiple positions this off-season. If that means spending a 3rd or 4th on Araiza so be it.

I never said they couldn’t improve or that they needed firing. All I want to know is who is most at fault for why we haven’t won a Lombardi. If what you said is correct and we lost to a superior team (talent and coaching wise) then we need to continue adding better talent. Hopefully Beane and McDermott keep improving because it’s clearly we are lacking pieces still. Lol then we just shrug our shoulders? We don’t even try to qualify and quantify it?

Lol good luck with your stance. It’s so prudent to sign players middle of the road salaries for bottom tier production. Is it any wonder why we don’t win Lombardis lol.

So what would you do to win Super Bowls? Add better talent?

So why don’t you add something constructive to the debate. What would you do to win super bowls. Why aren’t we winning them?