Virgil

You think so with the Panthers? I wonder how good that relationship is with what’s happened recently there and the transition of ownership

I knew I was forgetting someone. Maybe it’s because trades are more common, but it does feel like we have a large inner circle of friends now. Moreso than I can remember

Valid point. Future relationships are important. It’s hard to not think we have a good relationship with the Chiefs, Eagles, and Bengals. Hopefully the Giants enter that fold

The Broncos/Bills are the best example. If the Broncos want to trade back, they know we want a QB. What’s the line to make us think they are okay staying at 5 and is calling their bluff? It’s such a delicate negotiation to me. They want our picks, we want our QB if there. I’d hate to end with neither of us blinking and no one gets what they want.

This isn’t specially about us trading up with the Giants as much as it’s about Bean and Gettleman. Are there any honest conversations going on between GM’s or are they all just playing cloak and dagger? I recognize that this is there job and income, which is determined by their draft success. So, not that I think this will happen, if the Giants say they want to stay at 2 for Allen and the Bills trade ahead of them to steal him, that could cost Gettleman his job. I get that side. Even though they have a personal relationship. But on the flip, do you think there’s conversations like: Bills - You looking to trade out of 2? Giants - We have a guy we want, if he falls, we are staying and taking him. If he’s gone, we will trade. Bills - We will offer you _______ Giants - okay, we will see what happens. I feel like there has to be a certain level of honesty out there or people might miss out. You have to show some good faith to make someone be more inclined to trade with you. While it won’t happen, if the Broncos don’t want a QB, I feel like the Giants, Broncos, and Bills could all make a trade together that benefits each other, but they don’t want to show their hand to each other. Broncos have holes, Giants want guys who will be there at 5, and the Bills have picks. If either of them want QB’s, it’s moot. If they don’t, it makes almost too much sense. It’s just frustrating to think about what probably won’t happen because people can’t be transparent with what they want. But I get why.

Trading up to 7 makes no sense unless you are happy with any of the top 4 QBs. Even then, Denver or someone can just jump ahead of you at 2 or 4 and take your guy. You only trade to 7 in the moment. Also, making trades with two separate teams in two different trades is a terrible idea. You would need to do a 3-team trade at once to not get hosed. Right now, teams trading up are overpaying by at least 200 points. So to execute two trades would cost you at least 400 extra points. If you’re going to do that, then just trade up higher straight up

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Hard to pay much attention to a list that has a Guard as the #1 prospect.

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I’d be all over both of these guys

Vince also had that historic bowl game in his favor. Probably one of the best single performances in a college game I can remember seeing.

I hope we trade for him, let Tre punch him in the sack a few times, then cut him

If we hit on 5 of our top 6 picks in this draft, then maybe. The questions are just as much about McCarron as they are about what we do in this draft. If both do above average, then yes.

In fairness, he did go to Louisville. They can't even hire prostitutes the right way

Why do I feel like Allen is either going to go #1 overall or drop out of the top 15. This kid's offseason is something to behold

I thought we weren't allowed to post porn on this site?

Today sealed the deal on me wanting nothing to do with this kid. It just makes no sense for him to continue to buck the trend in the draft process. I understand not wanting to be considered for any position outside of QB, but to continue to refuse to run a 40, which all the other QB's did, and teams having difficulty scheduling private workouts with him, shows me that that he just didn't get it. I don't care about the wonderlic, but it doesn't help his cause. Considering he won the Heisman last year, had a better year this year, and still isn't considered in the top 4, there's something missing that all the GM's are seeing. I was against him before because of his size and the way he played against elite defenses, but he's really messing up his brand with this offseason. Hard pass

I guess you aren’t a fan of Brees either

“Hopkins, go deep” There, I figured it out

Now that is straight baloney However, it would be helpful against the Dolphins as we apparently didn’t practice those anyways

I wouldn’t have done that trade either. But it was up to the masses

If you know how to do it and are up to it, I’m down. I think it might be out of some people’s scope though

What percentage of them come on kickoffs? The opening kickoff is such a mainstay of the game. It’s the opening pitch, the face off, and tip off. I just cant imagine football without it

Can’t blame anyone if it happens. We wouldn’t have the chance at a trade up. Build a solid team with the picks.

I strongly oppose this