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At the end of the article it said donating $20,000 can help relieve up to 1 million in dept. That leads me to believe Josh didn’t just hand over 10 million. Sounds like it was around $200,000. That makes much more sense than 10 million.

I think this person is thinking about the ones that could have been drafted earlier. Like you said, Beane hasn’t done bad at all with the wr’s. However, I really hope Beane gets Josh another great wr talent. It could be TE, RB, WR, vet, rook anything. We just need someone else who can really take over like Diggs in the pass catching game.

Let’s say there was an, “eye for an eye” rule and a Bills player let up due to not wanting to deliver the hit and thus be removed from the game. How would you feel about that? I know I would be furious, especially if it allowed a td. It seems like there isn’t really a good solution for a situation like Hamlins. He definitely didn’t try to take the Pats players head off.

Thanks for sharing. Wow! That hit is worse than I thought. Full shoulder to the head. Yet, what choice does he have in that situation? It’s either let up, or aim as best as you can and hope for a good call when making the hit. That’s such a hard split second decision to make.

They played the Bills and Bengals twice last season and 1 each this season. The Chiefs only win was 13 seconds. I see, if we beat the Chiefs the Bengals don’t play them.

I trust McDermott, so if they go the route you suggest so be it. However, Elam was always going to take time to get used to zone, and it’s his first season with us. The staff will be patient with him, that’s their MO, I don’t see a switch to safety in the next year, unless it was always part of the plan. Atleast not next season.

To be fair, he would have missed more than 1 game if not for other wr injuries (crowder, Kumrow). Also, he plays a very high (90%) of snaps. Perhaps his ankle hasn’t fully healed? That’s the speculation here anyway.

He has one more year on his rookie contract FYI

I mean your right, but these, “propeller head” stats add context to the win/loss records. Are you not on this board to talk Bills football, and a deeper understanding of Bills football? For instance, when I look at those stats, I see Vikings and Eagles towards the top of the list (luck helping to explain some of their records, but not all). Where as the Bills and KC are towards the bottom, but still have a good win/loss record. Meaning, they are playing to make up for the bad luck. Which further shows (what are eyes see) that KC and Buffalo are much more solid teams, that don’t need luck to win (personally, QB play has to be a big part of willing a team to win). Before looking at that list, would you have argued if anyone mentioned the Giants are the luckiest team in the league? Because, I’ve felt that much of their wins are luck, but Daboll has gotten them to play hard (plenty of teams do that and don’t win though). Anyway, stats can be used to help take a deeper look at the metrics behind the win/loss and help confirm what our eyes are seeing. I’ve been amazed this season (especially the last 4 weeks or so) at how many times our DB’s are playing tight coverage and the wr makes a great contested catch. Many times our DB’s could have played the ball better, but it was still tight coverage and those catches aren’t always a given.

The point is, while we have struggled, it’s not as bad as many here make it out to be. While also a acknowledging the very things that have contributed to our struggles (because there are reasons why). Even with our struggles, we still have a top offense/defense. Which means, once/if the team can overcome the struggles, we will be in really good shape. About the other 31 NFL teams. At times all teams struggle (aka excuses as you call it). Many of the struggles teams endure is related to injuries, but not all. The point is, when struggles occur, it’s good to understand why (root cause and contributing factors) because there are reasons for everything. Your comment provides absolutely no value, or contribution to the thread. What you call excuses are in fact contributing factors towards our team not performing up to their standard that we were accustomed to. It’s worth talking about, especially on a forum dedicated to Bills football. If you have nothing to contribute it’s better to move on and say nothing. Instead posting as a grumpy/negative person doesn’t do any good for this forum or yourself. You just look dumb.

That’s not what I’m staying. What I’m saying is breathers are obviously important, because Diggs gets them, and he is our main weapon offense (besides Allen). If Diggs gets them, it’s because they want Diggs fresh so he can make plays. They wouldn’t rest Diggs for any reason other than to enhance his performance, and he is a number 1. You stated, Davis being a number 2 should be out there all the time regardless and still preform, without acknowledging that our number 1 gets breathers in order to enhance his performance. Like I said in my previous post, I’m not saying Davis doesn’t have room for improvement. He does. I’m just sick of posters overacting and and over exaggerating/over stating things without acknowledging the full context of the facts. There is absolutely no benefit to over exaggerate anything or to ignore other relevant info.

He’s playing more snaps than Diggs because of his blocking. If Diggs needs a breather every now and then, so does the guy who’s playing more snaps than him. Obviously Davis has room to improve, but your comment is completely wrong. Being out there as much as he is, has to be tiring and if it wasn’t, Diggs wouldn’t be coming out like he does.

THANK X A MILLION! Too many are complaining about the sky falling, but their opinions are purely emotional and have no bearing on reality. I think these people want us to be like the Chiefs week in and week out, if not, the sky is falling.

I agree we could be getting more out of some of our early draft picks. However, this is year 6 (5.5 for Beane) and the team we have is legitimately good on paper and in action. Beane is built the team. It’s the offense that seems bothers you the most, mentioning Allen having to work so hard, and also later the stuff about Tua. Hill and and Waddle are much more talented than any two wr on our team. But our defense is better than Miami. And the defense is better than your giving it credit for. I believe we will see the team come finish strong much like last year, with the defense getting healthy and the offense finding it’s groove. Who knows. We just see the team differently. Time will tell.

The coach makes the calls on the field based on all of their input from ALL sources. Your take is flat ridiculous! So we should never fault/praise McDermott for 4th down attempts then? Because it a Bills thing? How many other teams value analytics, yet aren’t calling as many 4th downs?

The way you speak about the underutilized guys comes across as if you think the offense is broken or something. We have one of the top offenses in the league, and yes we also have room for improvement. Cook, and Shakir are rookies. They have both shown flashes, and have earned more reps over the course of the season. Hines bas been in the team for a few weeks, and is a role player. He will get more work, but he and Cook steal reps from each other. So your noting two guys as being under utilized while acknowledging that there reps directly compete each other. Knox is the most baffling one, I mean he has a great all around game, but I expected more from him in the passing game. This is Dorsey’s first year, maybe that has something to do with it. I don’t know. But that one’s legit, the rest are guys who it’s a bonus if they are more than a role player this season. BTW, it’s a bit of an over reaction to begin to even suggest Beane isn’t getting good player. Like I said, our offense is far from bad, we’ve lost 3 games by a combined 8 points, and if not for mistakes made by our team (as in correctable) we could have won all 3 of them. Yes, we can better, yes we have things to fix, but it’s plain silly to act as if there are major issues. Let’s see how we finish the rest of the regular season and go from there.

What offensive coach do you move to? It’s a dice a roll and absolutely no reason to do it at this juncture.

I don’t personally think offense is the issue either. Most who want a new coach want an offensive coach, and my point is, we can do just fine taking the next hot thing at o coordinator who can parlay that into a head coach gig. Between a top offense with Allen and a top defense. What more can anyone want? A team like that is always in the hunt for a Super Bowl. It comes down to how the season unfolds like injuries, weather, personal stuff, etc. Even though last offseason wasn’t as good as the one before, the team was, and we were 13 seconds away. Yes it’s on McDermott, but the team as a whole DID grow even though the record in the post season didn’t. Yes wins matter, but we can’t deny the team itself didn’t grow and McDermott was driving the boat. We have no clue about this season. No reason to speculate. But as you said, our offense is top notch, as is our defense. Id argue, that this years team (when mostly healthy…big if I know) is better than last years team. Again, growth/improvement. Let’s see how it ends before we make assumptions, but the team IS better. No argument there.

Projecting that far out is too hard though. It obviously depends on what happens. If we were to be as good as we are now and last season perpetually for 10+ years, it would come down to why (specifically) that we didn’t get to the Super Bowl? Another mistake like 13 seconds would be very hard to overlook, as it would show a lack of growth. But what if the losses came down to a player making a key mistake, or us having unlucky injuries, thus losing our edge (Think Tre White being out last post season, that was a key loss). It really depends. We can only look at it here and now and as it is, there has to be a specific coach in mind, and even that isn’t guaranteed. This season isn’t over, let’s see how it ends and how the team performs down the stretch. Allen has always improved from the start of the season to end. Let’s see what that is this year, and what that means for our offense.

It’s not even close to the same. Building a business isn’t the same as taking a dice roll on a new coach. As far as binding something, McDermott has built a culture any fanbase would dream of having, and we’d be lucky to get from a new coach. What has McDermott shown that makes you believe we should move on? Is 13 seconds the only thing? Or is it because we haven’t won’t a Super Bowl? Having a perfect NFL roster, including head coach isn’t going to guarantee anything, because of injuries and flukiness of the NFL season, and you want perfection. Having a team that can play with anyone year over year, gives a better chance of winning a Super Bowl. Seriously, how many coaches out there are better than McDermott currently? Would you be willing to take a gamble on a first time head coach? That could set us back years if it doesn’t work out, years that we could be right in the hunt having a chance at a Super Bowl. The chances are better than great that a first time coach will make mistakes and have to learn from them. Lord forbid that mistake come in post season, or else we’ll have a fanbase rallying to start over again. Buffalo is in a prime position to be in the hunt for a Super Bowl every year for the next 10+ years. We are more than capable of winning a Super Bowl this season and for the foreseeable future, yet you want to gamble that away because of 13 seconds? Or because we haven’t won a Super Bowl in general? Back to the growth of your business analogy, since McDermott started as a head coach, he has shown growth. He has gotten better at challenges, better game management, grew with the offense (more aggressive 4th down calls, even more aggressive 4th and goals calls). Not to mention his defense literally becoming the new, “hot” defense to stop the new hot offenses. However, growing a business isn’t the same as taking a roll of the dice on a new coach. The business growth analogy, works better when comparing to a rebuild such as McDermott/Beane did. Cut the fat, build a culture, bring people in who fit that culture, budget accordingly (FA contracts and re-signing contracts). Taking a new coach is like hiring a new manager. I’m sure some of them didn’t work out too. Quite frankly, McDermott hasn’t shown any indication that is peaked out. But let’s just say he is (which is beyond absurd, but anyway), as he is now, he is more than good enough to win a Super Bowl. Look at Pete Carroll for instance, yes he got a Super Bowl early, and had two appearances. But that was off of the back of an insanely dominant defense, and McDermott can do the same, only he has Allen (Russ wasn’t special those first couple seasons, he was just elusive and a gamer). Besides those first couple of seasons, Carroll has largely been in the same boat as McDermott. I’d personally choose McDermott over Carroll, largely because Pete hasn’t shown a willingness to adapt his offense. McDermotts already done that. What about Harbaugh, Belichick, or Tomlin? You’d prefer a coach such as them over McDermott? All have super Bowls, are not offensive coaches, and I personally would rather keep McDermott. I don’t see anything either of them would offer that McDermott doesn’t already bring.

It’s fine to feel that way, but you also have to acknowledge that it’s not a given that a coach comes in and does better either. If the organization was to move on from McDermott, it has to be for someone specific, not just anyone. The way we are constructed now with Beane/McDermott/Allen, we are in a place where we will be competitive and able to beat any team for years on end. Which also means, we have a shot at a Super Bowl for years on end. Beane has shown great ability drafting, trading, and signing contracts leading to a great roster year over year. McDermott has built a family orientated culture, which has lead to brotherhood on field, these players will run through a wall for each other (the Miami game this year is exhibit A). Besides the culture he has built, he brings a championship defense with him. Additionally, he has shown the ability to be more aggressive as Josh and the offense grew. Which is proof of his growth mindset. Which also means, there is better than good chance he learns from things such as 13 seconds (I swear, so many feel the way they do because of emotions from 13 seconds and not logic, which is fine, but not how super bowls are won). Allen can power ANY offense. With the league being the way it is, we are in a perfect position to take calculated risks at the next up and coming hot commodity at offensive coordinator, and who wouldn’t want to work with Allen for a chance to be a head coach? To me it makes more sense to take our gambles at O coordinator rather than on a brand new coach. Obviously if we get a new coach we aren’t going the defensive route, or else we stay McDermott. Better to risk an unknown at O coordinator than at head coach. Plus, this regime has already shown they will move on after 1 year if it doesn’t work out. We don’t need perfection to win a Super Bowl. What we need is to have a chance year over year. The NFL is full of injuries and other funky stuff each season. Being a serious contender every season increases the odds of getting a Super Bowl. Wishing and hoping is nice and all, but we know what we have. And what have is more than capable of getting a Super Bowl. Or do you not feel this current team can’t compete with everyone? Which point 😉

You said, “in almost any other fan base McDermott would be on the hot seat” which isn’t a, “fact” it’s an opinion, and it’s that statement that drew the emoji’s such as the puke emoji. Dude, you don’t even remember your own post, or, and I believe this proves it, your just trolling.

I didn’t post when Allen was a rookie, take it for what you will, I’ve wanted Allen since pre draft and Baker after him at the time. I can see many losing faith in a coach after something as 13 seconds. Makes sense. However, wanting to move on from him because of it, is more an emotional based decision, and not a logical one. Which is fine, but I don’t think most organizations aren’t making decisions based on emotions. From an organizational standpoint, he’d have to make a mistake like that again, stop growing, or show a decline to move on. The way the Bills are constructed now, as a football team and as an organization (Beane/McDermott/Allen), we are in a position to have a team that can beat anyone year over year. If we move on from McDermott, who is this pick? It’s a dice roll any which way, but it can’t be to move on and take a long shot, so who? You want perfection, and that’s fine, but we don’t perfection to win a Super Bowl. Beane has shown he can draft/trade/sign contracts and build a good team year over year. McDermott has shown he can build a top tier culture within his team. With players truly feeling like brothers on the field. Not to mention he brings with him an amazing, championship caliber defense. Then, Allen a qb who can power any offense. What’s that leave us, needing that’s of great importance? A great offensive coordinator! in a league valuing the next best thing as offensive coordinators. It leaves the Bills in the perfect spot to take some calculated risks on some up and coming bright offensive minds. Who wouldn’t want to work with Allen with a chance to parlay the experience into a head coaching job? I see this position as great place to be as an organization, and wholly viable way to win a Super Bowl. Ken Dorsey hasn’t shown one way or another whether he should stay or not. However, the Bills have shown that they will move on after one season if it doesn’t work out. So far, our offense is far from horrible, so let’s see how they finish the second half of the season. Allen, personally, has shown growth down the stretch each one of his seasons. So I’m curious to see what that is this year, and if Dorsey/offense has a whole do the same (kind of like how our team did at the end of last season).

I see. You’d prefer the more offensive minded. It makes sense, that’s the way the league is going. I suppose it would have to be Sean Payton or a dice roll, unless there someone else out there. I’m not 100% sure about Dorsey. But I’m sure our offense can be fine going the coordinator route, while having a defensive coach. We always have a top defense, and Allen will power any offense. Yes, it’s crucial to have a good offensive coordinator, but at this level, the Bills can afford to take some calculated risks to get some, “up and comer” who can parley the position into a head coaching job, like Daboll. This is Dorsey’s first season, he hasn’t shown that he’s a failure, but he has shown that he has room to improve. But our offense is far from bad. Beane has to prove it, but if Dorsey did fail, they better move on (we did move on from o coordinator after McDermotts first season), and that’s yet to be determined.

Of course it doesn’t mean McDermott will succeed. My point, I’ve said in a few other posts is that examples such as Reid are evidence that it CAN happen. That’s it’s not out of the realm of possibilities. But when looking at McDermott personally and trying to guess whether he will grow or not, I look at things such as him greatly valuing the growth mindset. Then other things such as the strong family type of culture, leading to amazing camaraderie on the field. Besides all of that, McDermott has gotten better at clock management, challenging, and as Allen grew, he too opened up his offensive approach and his aggressiveness (4th downs, even 4th downs near the goal line). Not to mention everything on the defensive side of the ball. I mean, it would be very hard to get a coach who would be better than him, chances are great our coaching would be worse. Obviously he isn’t perfect, and he does have things to improve. Like the mid season slumps, and 13 seconds of course. Like how you mention Bills fans hearts being ripped out (and it’s true), it feels like alot of people are speaking from a emotional perspective, rather than a logical one. To replace him though, it couldn’t be just anyone. Because the chances aren’t great to have anything better, and McDermott/Beane are the kind of combo who give your team a fighting chance every season. There is always going to be injuries and weird stuff each season, so having a team that can play with anyone is what is needed. You want perfection, and that’s fine. What your saying, you’d have to have a person and mind and even then, it’s not guaranteed.