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The COVID economy (market-oriented) has been the greatest gift of my professional life, really feel guilty about it. But I'm not stupid enough to think these are sustainable scenarios, that if the Gov't keeps borrowing like this (even starting with this ABSURD $3.5T meaningless bill) that the US won't collapse sometime beyond that. Lefists have no clue how an economy works

My personal opinion is that this is just what happens when life is pacified too far...societies forget what got them there, etc What will probably reverse this "I have everything I need & want at the simple tip of my fingers" will be three well-placed EMPs over the Continental US

Literally, so dumb The State cannot borrow TRILLIONS and pay you to exist forever. In fact, the US has probably gone too far already on this front, we just don't know it yet. Just dumb Leftist thinking: "Yah, those low-wage folks just won't go back to those low-paying jobs while the gov't is paying them a lot more not to (irrespective of where those gov't funds are coming from)...they don't want to, they've learned to like having more money" This is exactly the disastrous thinking behind the Liberal/Democrat cabal currently pulling the Pinocchio strings above Biden that will sink this whole place. My goodness I can't believe how dumb.

Noone is saying there isn't a virus out there. Nor that people don't die from it. The argument is that the virus and its effect are being sensationalized to create Social change/constraints that people really should be pushing back against. Your data above is really NOT divergent from my argument, which is this: 1) COVID-19 is form of Flu virus that is both slightly more transmissable and deadly than established Flu; that's too bad; it's a problem 2) The Globe/US suffered a tough flu season 3 years ago; BUT had very mild Flu seasons for 2 years after that and prior to the COVID-19 hit in 2020, THUS there was a certain population of susceptible people that were still there to be affected by a transmissable disease. In effect the cohort of risky population saw extended life expectancy due to the benign flu seasons for two years. 3) Powers that be, terrified of a Pandemic, used and are using "false" hard data on COVID, relative to "soft" historical Flu data, to push an agenda that is stopping life when it really shouldn't -- shifting goalposts if you will. First 2 weeks shutdown (fine, let's make sure). But it was clear what this was early on, a slightly worse Flu and our hospitals were not overrun -- in fact the BIGGEST issue is they mistreated this disease by misinterpreting temporary low-oxygen counts as diabolical and over-using Ventilators (remember that period? That was wrong). Children should not be wearing masks in school or elsewhere, it's actually causing OTHER viruses that DO harm children to become more prevalent themselves, so that's wrong. People who are at risk should take care to protect themselves. For heavens sake Duke University has a "breakout" of Covid where 50 students tested positive, 1/2 who are asympomatic and 1/2 who, prob when pressed, declared they have light cold-like symptoms. It's a joke.

Stop taking umbrage and making false narratives, noone is demeaning the unfortunate demise of anyone, nor suggesting Healthcare workers don't deserve respect. My industry has all kinds of rules & regulations also, guess what, they get broken all the time. That's why every industry has an enforcement arm attendant to it. I have a specific experience, where instead of amputating his father's 2nd leg due to late-stage diabetes, a friend made the difficult decision, along with his brother, to remove life support and enter Hospice. I remember vividly because he was on the phone with his brother, and when they hung up we shared a hug, because it was a very difficult moment for him. 9-10 days later or so his father died, as expected. Cause of Death? COVID. In the Obit, and according to my friend, on the Certificate. Now this will be brushed aside as just an anecdote, but that's no different than all the anecdotes we've heard from the other direction on this topic. If you don't think Hospitals were chasing the Fed govt's money for COVID to plug budgetary holes, I don't know what to tell you.

Yeah, Liberals and Democrats are just stupid. Simple as that. Sociologists and Demographologists... How about this...the Town of Lake Placid cut its Ironman competition by 40% and moved half his Lacrosse tournament to Albany, forgoing tons of important revenue for the town...big hit economically. Why? Afraid of the virus? NO, the municipality, the hotels, the restaurants, nobody could hire more than 40% capacity. Real-world evidence, not some BS "professorial writing". Country is in big trouble.

I'm afraid you're misunderstanding this. After 100 years, there is no hard Flu data...the Flu deaths are an evolving estimate that comes in a range, it's not "80,000", it's 65k-90k or some such thing. And they formulate it 18 months after, and it pertains to the 4 month "flu season", not some 20 month time-frame. To grapple with an incidence rate they take test data and guess and extrapolate and assume to come up with the denominator...so a 0.1% mortality rate on 80,000 Flu deaths implies that 80m people "had the flu", when in reality they have tested like 12m-24m people positive in a given year and used population meta-data to determine the incident rate. Here is the link that describes how your JHU 600,000 number was derived, don't take it from me: How the Johns Hopkins coronavirus tracker was built -- and what it tells us - The Washington Post The JHU tracker was created overnight using some web-scraping and assumptions. There was no hard-definition of a "Covid-death", BUT in a period of evaporating Hospital revenues & profits due to the suspension of other treatments, there were guaranteed payments for treating COVID victims and deaths. COVID-19 is an unfortunate disease that results from novel virus that is not that much different from all the others we've seen. But it's irresponsible to act like this data hasn't been massaged, over 20 months, to fit a narrative. The article above on the JHU COVID Tracker's formation literally describes how it was created to tell a story about inequity So the net of these numbers is, the annual Flu deaths would be under-counted relative to a COVID number, because they aren't actively seeking Flu deaths (nobody dies "from the Flu" just like nobody dies "from COVID"), the COVID deaths are certainly exacerbated (I only know 3 people who died "from COVID", not one of which did, two of them had feeding tubes removed already in hospice for cryin' out loud), and the incidence rate of the Flu is an extrapolated guess while they're using hard, testing data on COVID to determine its' incidence rate...at the moment anyway, they'll eventually declare that 280m people had COVID since it was so transmissable.

Absolutely not 10x deadlier. The flu mortality rates are actually estimates based on assumptions using extrapolations and guesses. They don't test for the Flu like they do COVID so the data sets are completely incomparable. 1) that 600,000 death count is horrifically wrong, and comes over a 19 month period at this point; 2) your denominator for who's had COVID is way too finite to compare with Flu

Societal control requires shifting definitions and expectations around these things. Truth would mean freedom and "things happen", but Democrats/Liberals/Socialists despise people doing things independently and becoming successful or having fun. Therefore they constantly move goalposts through a willing, subservient Media apparatus

What an absolute joke. Just read that and then think about what our society has become. Delta is not leading to Children being hospitalized; they are going in for RSV and other Respiratory illnesses because their bodies and immune systems have been made more fragile due to social distancing nonsense for what is a Flu+ virus. Absolute joke.

I am sorry, I think you're just dumb. More people (3) died sliding off a single airplane today in 3 mins trying desperately to escape the tortuous death they know they would face than died at Jan 6 but you just can't accept this dire situation, because you're so partisan. 500 orphans at the border turned into 25,000 orphans, but you don't care, simple as that. You don't care.

I'm sorry. You're just dumb here. Just dumb. Wake up. These people are all going to die, horribly.

This is incorrect. It's not a blood-born virus that can be "killed off", never has been. It's a simple cold/flu virus that resides in the Epithelial layers of the Respiratory system, it will be here forever like every other such virus that still could be found embedded in any dead hospital victim ever if we only tested for them. It is slightly more dangerous, slightly more contagious, slightly more transmissable, and comes after two down Flu seasons. It's absurdity.

How do you put a user on "IGNORE" please?

They are, both all at once, incredibly stupid people and driven by outrageous agendas...

Selective Service & Draft have come under fire as obvious affronts to gender equality, I'd give the other side some credit for recognizing the if this/than that about it, EXCEPT, they are doing expecting no draft ever happens at all and IF it were to happen that females would just be exempt.

People should be asking themselves: Why, are there hundreds/thousands of false flag memes flying around the Twitter-verse with false claims of hospitals being over-run, people dying, etc? What's the reason for this? Who would want to do that? What's the motivation? Unfortunately, our Leftist neighbors and friends lack an ability to think critically about motivation, the most important dynamic in the natural world.

Its the Lie Its meant to ultimately control your life

exactly its a slightly tougher Flu with social media impact

i just posted two articles above that prove the prevailing evidence (JHU tracker) is obv false, the very people who created it brag about pulling it together overnight using Twitter scrapes and other nonsense. Then I provided you with a CDC release that showed more people “died” from Flu in the time period before, but they lowered the numbers in April 2020 to make CoVid at that time look worse. half this country is in a circular argument with themselves, because they want media-driven “evidence” of something with links, but the Media it listens to has no discernible ability to truly investigate or think through a problem, and any other non main stream source would be dismissed, so there can be no sensible discussion btw this internet meme going around about un-vaxxed dying because hospital care was delayed due to crowding is utter nonsense and I’m fully Vaxxed as is my family. But this is all nonsense.

We’re just missing each other. same info, different conclusions or thoughts. ill just say the headline Hospitalization numbers for CoVid are not “normal” or remotely indicative of disease and the 3 month window where they intubated everyone on respirators was way-wrong they misdiagnosed the disease/symptoms.

geez I’m referring to this specific indication that would be grouped in under CoVid (keeping in mind they don’t track flu, it’s a guess upon an assumption upon a calculation…) I’m saying people who feel sick like flu normally would just ride it out at home, but NOW they are “more likely” to check into the hospital. your data actually makes it MORE likely that the hospital would accept them, because empty hospitals make no money, and lord knows there is/has been plenty of money made available to treat CoVid patients

self-fulfilling prophecy unfort the Chinese knew we were over-ripe for a little curve ball remains to be seen as to whether we’ll recover; Not prob with this Dem/Biden cabal in charge that’s for sure

This article also describes how they lowered the death burden based on non-sensical statistical analyses, again, in April 2020. So there's your information. We are being lied to. Simple as that. Sorry to hear. Yes, the Flu, and COVID, are serious diseases. One also has to factor in the fear-factor being created that leads to more "hospitalizations", i.e. young/healthy people sick with the "Flu" just ride it out without checking in. It's a serious Flu. We let them do this to us again, and life will never be the same because there will always be viruses.

Here is an article from the CDC that says the Flu killed 80,000 that year (2017-2018, four months). https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/2017-2018/archive.htm Look at the Hospitalizations. The incidence rates. This is the Flu, like 2x as bad from a mortality standpoint like 0.2% or something vs. 0.1% normal flu season (but same outcome, old sick people die unfortunately with some terrible anecdotes of younger victims that normally aren't flashed around Globally). It's just that there were more people susceptible this time around.