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All McD had to do was stay out of the way and let Josh do his thing. I give him credit for doing so. When McD intervened it became a disaster. One for the NFL history books. Thus far, his legacy is 13 seconds into proven otherwise. Add injury to insult, look at the Cinci game. What was the game plan offensively and defensively? Still don't know what they learned from the prior meeting weeks before.

Gunner, I respect your opinion and knowledge. You always respond professionally and with solid evidence backing up your claims. I am often reactionary to a fault. I can't get 13 seconds out of my head nor the playoff performances of the recent years. Perhaps, I'm too short sighted to see a positive long term prognosis. Takes me back a few years ago when Allen wasn't playing well early in the season. I was incorrectly pounding the table saying Allen was regressing. Boy, was I wrong and happily wrong at that. I would like nothing more than McD to bring a SB to Buffalo. I'd love to be wrong again! Go Bills!!!

You say "firing McD would be a huge gamble." Would it really? What makes you think that? You don't think a solid coach can win a lot of games with Allen as their QB? Do you think McD is irreplaceable? McD has consistently come up short come playoff time. Correct? Of course things could improve or get worse. There's no guarantee of either. Your premise of firing McD being a huge gamble isn't how I see it. Imho, it's worth the risk because I'm not convinced McD will lead the Bills to the SB. I have a nice sample size to evaluate.

Afraid of the Chiefs and Bengals who are in most people's eyes better than Buffalo. Likely to play at least one of them in the playoffs. Concerned about other teams like Miami, Jets, Chargers, and Jags.

Let me put it another way. Give you a different perspective to ponder. Do you think there are viable good coaches out there? Solid to good coaches. I think that answer has to be yes. Many have been named already. With that said, how much worse do you think another coach will do? Especially, consider the playoffs. The Bills have a generational franchise QB. That almost assures you of a good season record and a playoff birth. Agree? The coach pretty much doesn't have to mess it up sort of speak. It's a bit rudimentary but you get the gest. How much of a difference maker do you think McD is? Does he win big games? Does he win playoff games? Has he coached well in the playoffs? When is the last time you said to yourself wow McD is managing a great game. The coaching staff is outstanding this game? Playoffs? Miami game? Cinci game? KC games? Indy game? Texans game? Jags game? You see a theme here? Point being McD is not elite and it's very clear come playoff time. It's not a one or two game sample either. It's time to cut the cord your playoff losses. Increase your chances to make a SB run. A solid coach can do it. Ben Johnson or Lou A with the Bengals. I'd argue the Bills won't lose much and there will be little to no drop off if they add a solid coach. Of course, there is some risk. Hopefully, I have convinced you that the risk is pretty low and minimized by a franchise QB. The McD show has peaked...

13 seconds is the reason why!

Well thought out and a good read. Certainly is plausible. Lots of unknowns that will probably never be answered. I'm not so sure about the color issue you eluded too. That never entered my mind and seemed kind of odd. Perhaps you are right.

Fair post. I agree with the theme of your post. I welcome all viewpoints from negative to positive and optimism to pessimism. That's the true beauty of this forum.

Lots of assumptions here. I'll leave it at that.

What the writer says does has some truth and value to it. If that is "dignifying" then so be it. As you correctly pointed out many improvements to the Bills roster was omitted. I'd ask why do you seem so defensive and even angry? I posted it because I think it's stimulating to get alternative viewpoints.

Little doubt the Bills wouldn't have a Lombardi or a SB appearence if Mcvay was the coach. I agree McVay is one of the best out there.

Getting a MCD replacement is always considered a crap shoot in your eyes? Would Sean P be a crap shoot? Frank Reich? Ben Johnson? Eric Benamamy, Doug Pederson, etc... Sometimes do you think that coaching changes can be advantageous?

Then based on your logic the Bills should have never fired Fraizer. His defenses were statistically one of the best for years. Would like to get your input here.

The Chargers are a pretty good example when comparing to the Bills. Lots of similarities. A major issue with the Chargers has been poor coaching. They also have the stigma that they can't get it done. They always seem to find a way to lose in the big game. They choked away a huge lead to the Jags. Think the Bills vs the Texans playoff game for a reference. Think 13 seconds too. The QB situation on both teams is not the issue. That's a pretty bad example. In short, both organizations have lost opportunities, have franchise QBs, have coaches that choke away playoff games, haven't consistently fallen short despite high expectations, and have reputation that they can't get it done. So maybe we are in agreement?

Opinions will likely change in a year or two depending on the success or lack of. I understand your point of view. It's logical even though I dissent. Everything is really conjecture. We really have no idea if McD will improve or digress. Certainly the last two to three years of playoff coaching has not been his best. Dare I say with respect wasted opportunities. How many more can the franchise survive in the hopes of so called improvement. Sometimes in life you cut your ties before it's too late. That could reap dividends or be a big mistake.

I disagree on a lot of what you said. No need to elaborate as what I've said is on the record. Nothing new to add. I do get where you are coming from though. It's definitely a fair thought process.

https://twsn.net/2023/06/the-buffalo-bills-will-not-win-the-afc-east-in-2023 Who is this writer? Certainly, makes some good points but leaves out several too. I still think the Bills have to be considered favorites in the division.

We are about to find out how good McD is. That's not a bad thing. What is hard to explain is why did he allow Fraizer to run such a defense? It sounds like a McD defense is fairly different than Fraizer's. Usually a defensive minded coach will put his implant of the DCs defense and vice versa. Have to believe that McD was happy with Fraizer's D. He was here for several years and was always backed up by McD. I think it's fair to say Fraizer's defenses disappointed in the playoffs. Yet, he remained with the team for years with similar disappointing results. Ultimately, someone realized Fraizer and his D scheme couldn't get it done. Did McD try to alter Fraizer's D? Improve it or tweet it? If not why not? I'm excited to see McD run a defense. Expectations seem pretty high. Just maybe a Bills led D can make a few critical stops in the playoffs to advance further.

Ok I get the hint. I'll shut up.

It's easy worse because they won SB.

He consistently wins in the regular season. Almost any decent coach with Allen at the helm can get the team to the playoffs. That's exactly what McD has done. Nice regular season records. That just isn't enough. Wouldn't you agree? If you are satisfied and or content with that then one won't be advocating for change. The rest of my post is mute. The playoffs are a whole different animal. McD has proven to be average to below average. The numbers don't lie. His record is 4-5. Even an optimist can't think that's good. More specifically, look at the last 3 playoff seasons. Outcoached and outclassed by KC in the playoffs. Granted KC was better but McD and his game plan was inferior. 13 seconds is what it is. Not gonna beat a dead horse. Miami and Cinci last year has also been discussed at nausism. It all adds up to underachieving. Don't think coaching didn't contribute to this. That definelty includes McD! Even go back to the loss at the Texans for a reference if you will. Not good! Perhaps, that was a preview of what was to come. It all adds up mediocrity at best. Blown opportunities. McD has simple not been up to the task. Year after year after year the Bills have fallen short when it counts. That's pretty much undeniable and under the McD reign. The counter argument is McD is young, gaining experience, other coaches failed early in their coaching careers. I get that but there's still no guarantee McD will be any more successful in the future. My eyes have seen enough. Years of playoff incompetence has to fall on the coaching staff. I know many will not agree. I have lost confidence in McD come playoff time. He routinely gets out coached and out schemed. Enough!!! I'd rather take my shot with an up and coming offense minded coach like Ben Johnson. I think he will absolutely get the best out of Allen and the Bills weapons. Something Dorsey failed to do last year. This year will are all holding our breath. For me, this is McD last year to prove has up to the task. I doubt he is and I'll be pounding the table for change.

I would welcome Ben Johnson in a heart beat! Exactly what the Bills need. Diggs wouldn't be complaining that's for sure.

I wish the seat was warm for two years. I don't believe that's reality. McD seat was ice cold for two years and is only getting slightly warm now. That seat won't get hot for another 2 or 3 years after more likely playoff failures.

He's failed in the playoffs. He's done very well in the regular season. People are mostly happy with McD and his results. Most are willing to give him more time to thrive in the playoffs. The next few seasons should tell us a lot about McD.

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