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Absolutely correct. Thanks for clarifying.

KC is an elite team with elite coaching. Their Oline is very good. Dare I say they are a dynasty team. They are at a whole different level than the Bills. Don't get fooled by regular season wins. If you take a closer look at their offensive roster it's not impressive. Mahomes, Kelce and a bunch of fill ins and role players. As for the Bills and Allen's role moving forward. I'm not really against Allen running seven or eight times a game. Of course, I'm not advocating reckless running and taking unnecessary hits. I feel Allen can mostly handle the hits very well. There's a five year sample saying so. RPOs can absolutely be effective and keep other defenses off balance. I don't want to see a limited, restricted, or chained up version of Allen. Part of his greatness is his legs and his running. (Not saying you are implying this.) I trust Allen to make the right decisions. I can totally see where 5 to 7 Allen runs can work well within the confines of a well oiled Bills offense. To boot, he's an absolute beast in the redzone. Go Bills. No doubt Brown is a concern going into this season. Hopefully, he is able to be effective and not a liability. Beane had to make some tough choices.

No worries at all. The Bills have one of the best rosters and coaching staff in the league. Trust the process fans. The only thing that can stop us is injuries. Go Bills!!! Should be two hard fought wins for the Bills. These teams are going to see a new and improved Bills team. I'd be surprised if they lose these games.

OMG. This is hilarious. Thanks for the good laugh. 😄😄😄

Elite teams go to Super Bowls. Elite teams win Super Bowls. Until then, the Bills aren't an elite team. They are a very good team which many fans are very satisfied with. Clearly, it's infinitely better than the past and far more enjoyable. That is worth something.

Sure feels like groundhog day...

Let's paint the correct picture here. Here's what I've said: Both teams can't win when it counts. ✔ Both teams can't beat KC in the big game. ✔ Both teams have a reputation that they choke in the big game. ✔ Both teams have top tier QBs who have fallen short repeatedly. ✔ Both teams have coaches that have choked away a playoff game. ✔ Both fan bases have been disappointed in recent years. ✔ Nowhere in hell did I imply the Bills have not achieved more or are not a better franchise. Yet, you are seemingly "hell bent" in trying to imply I did. I didn't!!! Like I said previously, the comparasion is more about how the two organizations can't get it done. Sure there are vast levels of achievement. There's a given. I'd be foolish to counter the obvious. In concluding, I feel like you have taken what I said out of context. You have taken it to another level. You have looked at it from a macro point of view vs a micro. It is what it is. Perhaps we are splitting hairs and or perhaps I'm wrong. If you reread my post my similarities don't seem to be inaccurate. In fact, you responded to only one point of contention. Then you took off to another level.

I think the ultimate comparasion would be Brady and Breeze. Physical gifts and strengths are important QB qualities but it's not the only measure used to evaluate QB talent. Look at Cam Newton as well. Modern day football I'd look to Joe Burrow. Nothing special about his physical traits. However, his it factor is very special thus far.

I've stated many of the sumiliarties between the two teams. I'll proudly stand by them. Reread them if you need your memory refreshed. There hasn't been a lot of negative feedback on the specifics. What getting lost here is the assumption that I have implied that the Bills haven't accomplished more that LA. People have taken what I said out of context. There is a real perception that both franchises can't get it done. That's the major point of contention here. Frankly, I don't see what I said as ridiculous. What's ridiculous is the implication some have made. Is that you? Hope that clarifies things for you.

There are similarities. I never implied that the Bills aren't a better franchise or haven't accomplished more. I'd be a fool to take that stance.

You should be reported for plagiarism. You copied the Carolina playbook.

Very reasonable post. Appreciate such a well thought out post. Hard to quibble with anything you said.

Exactly correct. Thank you for this astute distinction. It's the very reason why I'm advocating for a coaching change.

A younger version I might add.

Plenty of big regular season games between the two. Often they had playoff implications for the Chargers. The Chargers have squandered just about everyone of those games.

Both teams can't win when it counts. Both teams can't beat KC in the big game. Both teams have a reputation that they choke in the big game. Both teams have top tier QBs who have fallen short repeatedly. Both teams have coaches that have choked away a playoff game. Both fan bases have been disappointed in recent years. Are they really stacked? Who are the elite players on the team? Don't get me wrong the roster looks to be improved and solid. A roster that if healthy should be able to compete with any team.

I agree. Their are many similarities between the Chargers and the Bills.

That's more than a fair way of seeing things. Our eyes are a little different but I totally respect what you are saying. 👍

I think Allen is physically more gifted then Kelly. However, there's no way you can put Allen ahead of Kelly. It's just an unfair comparasion. Kelly is a hall of famer whose career has ended. Allen hasn't even sniffed what Kelly has accomplished nor has he played enough football. It would be Kelly hands down for me if I had to pick one right now based on what we know. The major reasons are I knew Kelly would get It done when the game was on the line. I recall thinking over and over please give Kelly a chance. Get the ball back. Most often Kelly was able to be successful. I just don't have the same level of confidence in Allen. That's not a knock on Allen as it is a compliment to Kelly. Secondly, Kelly made four straight SB appearances. Should have a ring but wide right still haunts many Bills fans. That feat is quite remarkable despite falling short. Allen had to earn his way past Kelly. With time hopefully he does. He's not there yet.

Great minds think alike.

He's likely to be the next scapegoat if the Bills fail to meet their goals and expectations.

That's a terrible mindset to possess. With that kind of thinking the Bills are very unlikely to win anything of substance. Just pack it in now. Instead, I say would say the Bills have Allen and he's more than capable of beating Mahomes and Burrow. The playing field is very close without huge separation. A strong case can be made that Allen is better than Burrow. Stop with the excuses. The Bills were favorites to win the SB for a reason. The major differentiator between the team's is coaching. Lou Anarumo took Dorsey to the woodshed and McD handed KC a golden ticket. A Fraizer led D under the direct supervision of McD has been paper tigers in the playoffs.

That's fair. Payton is just one example of possible candidates. Personally, I would not have liked giving up draft picks to retain him. If I'm worong here I stand corrected. I here where you are going with Payton. I just feel he would be a great fit with Allen. His offensive prowlness would be benifical and a welcome addition. I can definelty say the same about Ben Johnson. Imho, Allen would benefit from change and a new offensive mindset. I feel like McD is not a great fit for Allen. Maybe I'm wrong here. McD is a defensive minded coach whose defense turns into "paper tigers" come playoff time. We've seen it routinely in the playoffs. I have little confidence his defense will be up to the task this year. Granted it's an extremely tough task to stop or contain Mahomes and Burrow. Yet, teams find ways to derail the Bills offense. With that said, I would rather shift to an offense minded coach. Someone who can let Allen cook. Someone who can get creative. Someone who can have a plan when teams take away Diggs in the playoffs. Someone who can utilize all their offensive weapons. Someone who will go down swinging for the fences. Someone who can add ingenuity to the offense. Very skeptical that McD and Dorsey are those guys.

I'm not assuming a new head coach is going to be the answer. I'm also not assuming McD can or can't make the leap either. Both are unknowns. I'm saying it's worth the risk to hire a new head coach because I've seen what McD has done in the playoffs. I'm not impressed whatsoever. I'm saying a new head coach can achieve close to the same or more than McD based on the Allen factor. The status quo just doesn't cut it anymore. Pegula obviously disagrees. Of course, many including yourself disagree. That's more than ok with me.

What's there to lose if McD is not coaching the Bills? That's a serious question not trying to facetious. Of course, there is some risk but how much? I for one would be super excited if Payton was hired as the Bills coach. A welcome change if you will. Allen clearly mitigates the risk. Isn't that a fair statement? A decent to solid coach is likely to have a good regular season record and make the playoffs. Especially with Allen and the roster. Is that a fair statement? The notion that the team is going to regress or fall apart without McD is unfounded and a fallacy. The opposite is quite possible too. A new fresh start, innovative and creativity might be just what the Bills need. Ask yourself how much different is this year going to be with the same old regime? Is the grass is greener with staying with the status quo?