newcam2012

Well I'll give you some credit for starting the thread and bringing up some valid points. I mean every team can always upgrade every position I suppose. Realistically, you could have put punter high up on your list. The Offense can always get uogrades. The Bills signed Guard Saffold who is a very good run blocker, RB Duke Johnson, WR Crowder, OT Bobby Hart and TE Howard. All of those players can contribute. It's not like the Bills haven't done anything to improve. On Defense Miller is basically a DE. Plus, DE Shaq Lawson, DT Settle and DT Jones. On CB they lost Levi Wallace and Tre White's status is uncertain. Thus far, who have the Bills acquired? Come on it's the clearest biggest need on the team. I have no doubt Beane will address this issue via the draft and or free agency.

He would be a huge reach at 25. I wouldn't be happy if the Bills selected him there.

Agree but I don't think Pickens is going under the radar.

You are no fun. It's fun to play out the draft. I don't think anyone is saying they know more than Beane and company. It's a place to share opinions and give your input.

Good one. I don't mind the strategy of moving up or back. Depends on the board and who is available. At least, Beane is willing to make moves. Obviously, its not an exact science and you can't hit a home run pn every draft pick.

I am hoping one of the better CB is available at pick 25 or even like pick 20. The Bills may trade up. I think the Bill's can get a quality WR in the second round. Unless they think a stud WR is staring them.in the face. Also, the above mentioned scenario applies here too. I'm not an advocate of trying to move into the top end of the draft. Compensation is too step. I like the list. However if Jameson is there at 25 that becomes very interesting.

Don't like this thought process at all. Beane won't do this! WR draft is deep. No need to give up so much for a damaged half a rookie season wide receiver.

So are you saying Edmunds is replaceable at a much cheaper price? If so, I agree 100%.

Beane moving up to get Edmunds sure looks like an error.

I voted for Booth. He is very good and fills a huge need. I think he can be a day one starter. By playoff time.he.will have much more experience. Just not sure he's there at 25

If that's the plan I believe it's not optimal and likely to be exploited by good teams. The Bills better get a quality stop gap veteran CB and draft the best available CB at 25. Perhaps even trade up a few spots to get that quality CB.

Get it down Buffalo!

That's fair and I agree. How Edmunds plays this year will go a long way on whether he remains a Bill. Imho, I'm hoping for an upgrade. I'd be ecstatic if the Bills could get a 2nd round pick for him. Sometimes it's hard to see your own mistakes and cut ties before it's too late. It took them a long long time with Star. Beane and Coach McD pounded the table for him on numerous occasions. Look at AJ Epenesa a second round draft choice. He has 2.5 sacks in 2 years as a Bill. Why is he even on the team? Beane obviously isn't always correct. His biggest accomplishment is swinging for Allen and hitting a grand slam! As a fan, I think it's ok to criticize and praise Bills' management.

Remember he drafted him. I'd say he isn't the most objective person evaluating Edmunds. Beane can talk him up all he wants and deflect the negative criticism as well. I mean do you expect him to say he hasn't performed at the level that we expected especially for a 1st round pick. We are hoping he can make more big plays and improve his football instincts. Of course not. The only thing he can do is to "talk him up" for trade capitol or to justify his draft choice.

Could be all smoke and mirrors to bolster his trade compensation.

I would just add that Beane drafted him and may not be completely objective. I'm not saying Edmunds completely sucks. I'll concede he's a good play caller for arguments sake. However, I find it difficult to believe the Bill's couldn't find a solid replacement. Edmund's range is excellent but his instincts are poor. He's out of position often, disappears in many games, and NEVER makes a big play. After four years it's clear he's not even close to being elite. Watch Micah Parsons for eliteness or Bobby Wagner in his prime. I think it's generous to say Edmunds is above average. I see him as mediocre. I'd be surprised and disappointed if he's a Bill next year. I don't even think he's worth 10 mil a year. I see him as a stop gap LB for this year.

If I recall correctly the Bills tackling was very very poor throughout most of the game. Also, the Giants played ball control effectively.

It shows this in the documentary. Clearly states Kelly and Bruce were jerks early in their career. Later, they matured and earned much respect from the players. Quite a sight to see.

Did he beat your results? You are pretty good in my book.

What do you and or Beane think he does well? He's a solid play caller is what you are saying? Maybe he'd make a good coach? Edmunds is comparable to the freakish speed burner receiver who has brick hands. Great athleticism but his instincts are God awful too many times. Hes just not dependable and the lack of big plays is icing on the cake. Beane certainly knows more than me but he's not always correct either. Thos could very well be the case with Edmunds. Sometimes the fans eyeball test is truly a good parameter of accuracy.

Watching it on the NFL network. It is so good to watch. Great insight from the other Bills players like Kelly, Bennett, Talley, Reed, etc... It's getting me pumped for this season.

I'm sure some teammates will miss Edmunds. However, I feel his departure would have little to no effect on current players. Players are used to the football business. Every year the team changes. I don't see Edmunds as the glue or outstanding leader on the defense. I can't recall ever seeing him gathering up the defense and rallying the defense. Perhaps he leads by quiet example. Either way, Edmunds departure will not negatively impact the team. To think otherwise is giving Edmunds way way too much credit.

How did that work out for the Chiefs with Edwards- Helaire? Just saying... Exactly why Beane won't take Hall at 25.

Agree 100%. In the last few years, how many positive big plays had he made? Often you don't even know he's on the field. The Bills need to improve the position. He's clearly not worth the money he's asking.

I have no doubt Edmunds will "shoot gaps." Will it be the right gap?