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There are several times that I've picked the Bills to win. More often than a loss. In fact, I think the Bills should win tomorrow. Have you seen the last 7 or 8 games the Bills have played? Why would you or anyone else suggest, imply, or infer an easy win or blow out by the Bills? Yet, we have many here thinking a win put is plausible. Go figure.

You think they are a pushover team? Weren't you saying the same thing about the Jets, Dolphins, and Vikings? John get some rest.

If he's not the guy this week it will be tough for the Bills to win.

The Pats offense is poor statistically in both passing and running. Their red zone efficiency is worst than Buffalo's. If the Pats have any chance to win its probably because if their defense. Allen and others have to protect the ball. Last game, the Pats offense looked good but I don't expect that kind of performance from Jones. Both of these coaches will have solid schemes since they know each other well. The difference maker in recent games has been Allen. Can't he be that guy with his current injury? I agree but I also think this kind of game favors the Pats too. They would love to play a slow grind out physical game.

That's fair. I just don't see the Bills team winning this game by a lot points. Of course, they can win by 5 or more. Nothing is a sure thing. The offense Bills is struggling in the red zone. The Pats D is legit and I believe top 10 in all categories. Number 1 in DOVA for what it's worth. Correct me if I'm wrong. The Bills Oline is banged up and Allen's Elbow still isn't right. Factor in weather, home crowd advantage, Pats revenge factor, and BB. Jones actually looked very good against the Vikings defense. He handled the pressure well. I suspect it was more of an outliner than anything else. Nevertheles, he hot some big time passes under duress in a hostile environment. The Bills defense struggles on third and longs. For me, the 4.5 points is plenty in what I see as a FG margin victory. Oh boy not good with their pass rush. Allen is going to be running for his life. Me too he's the Bills best oline man.

He's definelty different. Whatever he is it's working for the Dolphins. They are one of the surprise teams in the league. Never, did I think Tua would develop into a franchise QB and play better than Allen this year. Lead the AFC east through week 12. He's doing something right weird or not. I'm sure the Dolphin fans love him.

I play fanduel daily fantasy basketball and football. Been doing it for years mostly for fun and a hope I can win something big. Very difficult to do. Their payouts are very top heavy. Almost a winner take all but not quite. Wish the money was disbursed a little more evenly. It keeps me occupied and it's fun for me. So I relate to your post.

No doubt Milano is the better Blitzer. QB Jones is one of the worst passers under pressure. Fraizer has to implement blitzes and generate pressure on Jones. Jones will find the open guys if he has a clean pocket. Also, despite his lack of arm strength he will throw the ball long with success. Nelson A and Devante P can make big plays and win jump balls. He will make mistakes under pressure. I don't think this is the game for Fraizer to play his base nickel defense.

Very nice post. Trying to get the best closing line is a very tricky proposal. Of course, getting the hook" or trying to avoid it is important. I remember one time I had a 10 game parlay live going into the Monday night game. At that time, 10 game parlays were 500 to 1. Now, it's much more. I placed a $10 bet so my ticket was live for 5k. For me, my last game was always the Monday night game so I could hedge my bet. The game was a Cowboys vs Philly game. The line was 3.5 point. I waited and waited for the line to go to 2.5. Obviously, wanted to game to end on 3 to win both bets. The line never moved. I hedged my bet and placed 2k on the other team. My parlay cashed and I won about 3k. That was 25 years plus and I've never won another 10 game parlay.

Obviously, you don't know how betting works Those conditions certainly change things. I mean you are hedging for sure. Bills will win out if ABC happens or doesn' t happen. That's not how the game works. Unknown variables are in play and when you make outlandish predictions you can disregard or modify the variables. That's exactly what you are doing. Either the Bills win out or they don't. Your modifications are absurd. I mean can I bet a game and say the bet only counts if QB/RB/WR or whoever doesn't get hurt? If it rains or snows too much disregard my bet. That's what you are doing. Nevertheless, the win out claims are so ridiculous I'll listen to your modifications. The Bills aren't winning out. In fact, I'm not sure they win tomorrow.

No conflict at all for me. I always root for the Bills to win. I bet such a little amount that the bets are secondary. I'd rather lose my bet and have the Bills win the game. I only bet against the Bills when I think the spread is way off which doesn't happen often. Plus 9 to Detroit was a good example. This week plus 4.5 points to the Pats seems very high.

I won the bet with plus 9 points and Detrlot. Obviously, you don't bet games. Betting has nothing to do with loyalty. The old saying is never bet with your heart.

Should be some game! MVP candidate Tua vs Allen. Hopefully, Allen and the Bills can get some revenge. Most likely will be for the division.

The Vegas people are setting the Bills lines very high. Like last week. They had the Lions 10 point favorites. I jumped on 9 points early in the week. Knew that line was way out of whack. This line shouldn't be 4.5 imho. 50 bucks only. I don't get big because it takes the enjoyment out of it for me. Have a couple parlays too.

Just locked in the Pats at +4.5 points. Way too many points in what figures to be a close game. Taking the points has been the way to go. Outsiders just don't realize Josh is limited with his elbow. The Pats D is legit. Top 10 in every category. At home in a revenge game. Hopefully, Bills win by 3 or 4 points.

That's changing the scenario. I never advocated that either was going to happen. You defended the win out post. So put up or .... up. Nice try though.

Just because it's a Bills fan website doesn't mean you should lose all reality. How bout this anyone can DM me if they would like to pursue a friendly wager on the Bills winning out. They have a good chance of losing on Thursday.

Oh no doubt it cuts the other way too. Negativity or constructive criticism should always be bolstered by reasonable opinions and facts. Pure trolling or hatred for the Bills should be equally challenged and criticized. However, things here aren't equal. The negative posts here almost always get undue resistance. For example, look at this thread. It's premise is ridiculous yet most here don't challenge, question, or criticize it. What if I started a thread on how the Bills might lose out or lose most of their games? Another ridiculous thread that would get shredded to pieces and rightly so. See the point? I just wish the board was a little more realistic with a more balanced views or good and bad. I know the more popular view is to praise the Bills and be optimistic. I get it. You must not know football if you think this team is going to win out. It is outlandish and unrealistic to think the Bills win out. I'll stand by that statement all day everyday.

It cuts both ways. The Bills lost close games but they also won close ones. They could have easily lost to KC and Detroit. Right? With regards to Allen it all depends on his health. Obviously, he is hurt and a less than healthy Allen makes it extremely difficult for the Bills to win. Add in Hyde and Miller and it becomes even more difficult. No one knows how healthy any of these players will be. Predicting a Bills win out at this point is just crazy and laughable. Blinded homerism for sure. There is nothing to suggest this team wins out. As a realist, I'm hoping the Bills can win the division. Hope KC stumbles. Most of all the Bills get healthy. Most of us are diehard fans. Being a die hard fan doesn't give you a pass to say outlandish ridiculous post without valid construction criticism. Sure anything is possible but let's get real here. The Bills have a morsel of a chance to win out. I think most prefer more common sense post than blind homerism.

These are the kind of posts that are ridiculous. I mean talk about hedging. Saying they can win out or go 4-4. With that logic can you say they can lose out too?

It's ok to agree with me. Sometimes, I actually make a little sense.

Maybe I need to take this class?

The game has changed sir. Here's some QBs that disagree with you. Proof that running QBs can play well, run and run and run, and don't increase their chances of getting injured. Like I said the game has changed and QBs aren't getting hit like before. I believe statistically a QB has a better chance of getting hurt dropping back to pass vs running. I trust Allen to make solid decisions running and his body sure seems able to hold up to the hits he takes while running. (1)Jackson (2) Fields (3) Murray (4) Hurts (5) Jones (6) Mariota (7) Watson

I'd like to give a shout out to the Bills organization for the unexpected addition of Sam Martin. He has been outstanding averaging over 48 yards a kick with several kicks inside the 10 yard. What a great reliable punter.

Thanks for that information. I failed to do my due diligence. However, I still don't think the comparassion is valid. The game has changed dramatically to protect the QB since the Newton days. Also, there is plenty of controversy on how the refs and the league allowed vicious hits on Cam time after time without penalties and or fines. Additionally, Allen has proven to be a durable runner. I get the cautionous with Allen. Totally respect that. I don't want him to be reckless and take unnecessary chances for injury. However, I don't want to take away a great weapon of his which are his legs. Pleads for him to be a pocket passer and only run when it's a must isn't what I'm looking for. I'm more than ok with designed Allen runs and RPOs. This just makes defending the Bills O that more difficult.