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It's about probability and likelihood. No way a competent head coach doesn't take charge there. Got your head out of your butt! It's like saying OJ didn't do it. Stop embarrassing yourself with outlandish claims. A CEO of a company would have been fired immediately after such a blunder. Shareholders would have demanded a vote to terminate. Stop telling yourself fibs...

How did Vegas do on the Bills winning the Super Bowl last year? Take your homer glasses off and look at reality. No way this coaching staff leads the team to a Super Bowl. They continue to fall short yet you continue to believe the unlikely. The team has several holes that have been exposed especially in the playoffs. The last three years are plenty of proof that this coaching staff doesn't have what it takes. Maybe rewatch the Miami and Cinci playoff games. Take a look at the infamous 13 seconds. Why in the world world you have a mortal of confidence they can get it down. Rule of thumb is the games won on the trenches. You agree? Take a serious look at the Bills line. The Oline has been a major issue for years. Fact is its clear the Dolphins and the Jets have closed the gap. Anyone who thinks otherwise is clearly in denial. Is that you?

I don't dispute any of that. I didn't mean let him walk literally. I just was saying that because I don't think he would be missed. He has a very limited skill set. His hips are not fluid or shifty. As a result, he can get quick separation and his routes are limited. He blows at contested catches. Gabe will likely never be a dependable and reliable receiver without a true elite number 1 and 2 on the team. As a 3 or a 4 he can do well and we've seen that. Next year, no way should Davis get anything close to #2 WR money. I believe that would be in the neighborhood of 15 mil. McKenzie is likely not on the team next year. An upgrade is badly needed. Although, I think the Dorsey scheme hurt McKenzie.

I wouldn't be upset if they let Gabe walk. He's replaceable and nothing special.

You are correct because the Bills are playing and using Davis as the #2WR. However, he should not be the #2 WR. He's skill set is very limited. He's ability to create space takes too much time and he's too stiff in the hips. Additionally, he's terrible at catching contested balls. The fact that the Bills play him as a #2WR speaks volumes about the inept coaching staff decisions. As the season progresses it became apparent Davis is no #2. He's a #3 or 4 WR at best. I'm curious to see if the Bills coaching staff still goes back to the well. Will they use Davis as a #2 WR. Imho, that would be a colossal mistake. Why do I think they will line him up as a #2 again? You know the team is in trouble when they have to go back to the streets and pick up Brown and Beasley. Yet, they let Hodges walk and other better receivers were available like TY Hilton.

I have to agree and disagree. Many Bills fans here absolutely discredit Mahomes. Not sure how you can state otherwise. Definelty disagree with you. Mahomes has a much better Oline, play calling, coaching, etc... Definelty agree with you. Both can be true. What's true is Mahomes has two rings and Allen has none. You can do the math. At this point, the Mahomes vs Allen comparasion should cease. It's a worthless conversation. Mahomes is the clear cut #1 QB in the NFL. Burrows has likely surpassed Allen.

Are you saying tje Chiefs know how to build a Championship team? Are you implying the Chiefs coaching is very good? What are you trying to say about Buffalo's organization amd coaching?

Agree on Crowder. His talent was never really an issue for me. He's not great but he would have positively contributed to the offense. The real question was if he could stay on the field. The Bills gambled and lost.

That's fair. I feel like the Bills organization is settling on being a good to very good team. Seems like they want to make minor changes and run it back. Coaching and schemes need to change. The Bills haven't learned from the past. Recently, we have seen some frustration by Allen and Diggs. I believe they want changes that can led to big playoff wins and advancement. What are those changes? You think McD, Fraizer, or Dorsey are going to change enough to make a difference? Analyze the team's roster. It has some holes that truly prevent the Bills from beating top tier teams in the playoffs. We've seen that the last few years. What makes you think the Bills can close the gap and improve enough? The Bills organization has failed to adequately build up both sides of the line. We all know that the game is usually won in the trenches. That just so happens to be a weakness of the Bills. A weakness that has existed for years. Correct? In short, I see a descending Bills team not an ascending team. The Jets, Dolphins, Cinci, KC and the Jags are on the right track. The arrow is clearly going up. Not sure you can say that about the Bills. We fans have hope and Allen. Frankly that's fallen short and likely to continue.

No doubt the Allen pick was a grand slam. It was a high risk high reward pick. It arguably transformed the Bills franchise. Beane deserves credit and praise and then some more. He found the coveted franchise QB. A huge game changing selection. However, what has Beane done since the Allen pick? He doesn't simply get a pass because he found the Bills QB. I agree that Beane's misses have hurt the team. The failure to support and protect Allen has led to disappointing losses. The failure to change coaches and schemes has led to early playoff losses. That's on Beane. In short, the team with its franchise QB has flatly disappointed to advance in the playoffs. Something has I change and I don't see much change yet. I don't think I'm exaggerating. I have little to no confidence that a Fraizer/McD defense can get it done in the playoffs. Not sure how you can?

Not claiming he hasn't done good things. I absolutely give credit to Beane and McD for building a winning franchise. However, they have woefully fallen short in progressing the team further. That's my major issue, complaint, and concern. The last two years the Bills were primed to make at least a Super Bowl appearance and arguably win it all. The organization and team failed miserably. Coaches were clearly out coached and out planned and out maneuvered. Players failed to step up and execute. Allen had very little support. Any reasonable football fan can see the Chiefs and Cinci are far better teams than the Bills. Other teams like Miami, Jets, LA, and the Jags are right there maybe better. This Bills team is likely descending than ascending. It's a good to very good team that's just not good enough to proceed to the Super Bowl. It wouldn't surprise me at all if they lost the division and failed to make the playoffs. I still lean on giving the division edge to the Bills purely because of Allen. He's just that dynamic and good. Likely make the playoffs if he stays healthy. Depends on how you measure success. As for me, 3-5 years ago. It was such a pleasure to see them winning in the regular season. Win the division. Great to see them advance to the playoffs. However, at some point the goalposts have moved or should have moved. The last two years weren't just about making the playoffs. It was about going to the Super Bowl and winning it all. Fast forward to the state of the team now. It has holes or weaknesses throughout the roster in various areas. We know what they are. No way in heck can they all be adequately be addressed. Let's not even get into the injuries the team will suffer next year. They will have injuries. Hope that helps you see things in a different light.

Maybe Allen can play on one leg and win too?

I can definetly see the Bills missing the playoffs.

This is 100% on point. Go back to the 13 second disaster. We fans never got a full explanation of what happened. Arguably, one of the worst beats in team history and it got swept under the rug. The media treated the coaching staff with kid gloves. McD dodged every question. Fraizer was left off scott free. Most fans have moved on and accept the blunder as a one off. Using examples of other coaches who blew it. Total BS. Now, fast forward one year later and Cinci buries the Bills in their own building. Again, no accountability. Excuses of injuries, crazy season, Damar, etc...BS again! The team wasn't ready to play. The coaches had terrible game plans. Learned nothing from their rehearsal in Cinci weeks prior. Let's not kid ourselves either. Coach McD took over during that 13 second span. There's no way he didn't. This team will not advance far in the playoffs with McD, Fraizer, and Dorsey leading the way. The time is now for change! Good guy McD has to go. Fraizer just plan sucks when it counts. Horrific decision to keep him on. Dorsey is a young baby learning and hurting the Bills chances in win it all mode. Beane sold us manure in his press conference. Allen and Diggs can feel it slipping away. Why can't the fans?

That's not unrealistic.

Beane missed his window to capitalize on vastly improving the team. His misses were and are huge. Both sides of the lines are not good enough. Other weakmesses exist too. The time to do it was while Allen was on his rookie contract. My initial thought is the Bills aren't as good as Cinci amd KC. I don't think they can make up the ground now. Beane's hand is exposed. His presser was a huge bluff to the fans. Are you calling him or.folding?

Allen has been 90% of the team's recent success and playoff streak. Without him the team would likely be a bottom third tier team. Truthfully, when you analyze the Bills roster it's not overtly good. After Allen and Diggs there's not a lot of meat on the bone offensively. Defensively it seems like it doesn't matter who's on the field come playoff time. The nice defensive regular season stats go out the window. The teams thrash Fraizer's defense. Pretty consistent theme. Gotta hope the Bills play QB Jones or Jackson.

Somewhat true of KC but let's not take anything away from what they did. They still went out and beat a Cinci team that thrashed the Bills. Not to mention Cinci had their way with them in previous meetings. Not to mention they beat a better Eagle team. In short, quality organizations with quality coaches and quality players know how to win. That's KC from top to bottom. Compare that to a Bills team. Veach huge edge over Beane. Reid huge edge over McD. Spags huge edge over Fraizer. Bienemy edge over Dorsey. Get the picture? There is talk about being too harsh on Beane. Perhaps too harsh on the coaches as well. I totally get that if you have standards to the losing ways of the past. Totally understand if you are satisfied with multiple playoff appearances. At some point, the playoff appearances need to be Super Bowl appearances. Wouldn't you agree? The Bills have absolutely squandered the last two years! There's no other way to say it or see it. Enough with the excuses and the kid gloves. This organization has failed with greatness to meet its goals. It's all good though. Let's run it back again this year. What's the likely result? What a farce. One can clearly see teams are right on the backs of the Bills. Two just so happen to be in the division. Two other teams have made clear jumps past the Bills. The writing is on the wall. I'd argue that Diggs and even Allen can feel it slipping away. Their comments and attitude indicates frustration and unhappiness. That comes from disappointment and losing. The Bills brass has obviously blundered in protecting Allen and giving him weapons. Coaching and scheme is also an issue. Maybe under Dabol we have seen the best version of Allen? Dorsey certainly didn't get the best out of him? In fact, I'd agrue the opposite. Hold onto to your seat. The upcoming season is likely a bumpy road with a whole less success.

He is very good at working the numbers. He is just not good at selecting free agents or drafting.

At the right price, he would be a nice fit on the Bills offense. Dependable WR there's a dependable pro. Could be Josh's third down to go WR. I wouldn't hate the pick up for 3 to 5 mil.

Yes he can pretty much do it all. He's was a good blocker as well. He's being compared to Barkley's skill set. A 3 down back for sure. He sticks out like a sore thumb as the best RB in the draft. Many think he's top 5 prospect in the whole draft. He would be a steal at 27. My concerns are Dorsey and the oline. Both have to improve in order for Robinson to excell.

I really like what Hyatt brings to the table. You can never underestimate speed either. He's a good fit for the Bills. I'd be really surprised if he's there at 27. Agree what you said early about his 40 time. That's going to move him up the board substantially.

If he is there at 27 he absolutely should be considered depending on the board. You shouldn't pass up a talent like that. He probably would be the BPA by a landslide. I would love the pick. With that said I'd be shocked if there there when Bflo picks.

Agree. Letting Allen play Superman and relying on the defense to get stops isn't working. Especially evident in the playoffs where it counts. The Bills have to rethink their course of action and plan accordingly. How likely is this to occur with the same people in charge?

Some luck is involved but it's also a process of skill and evaluation. You can't sell the scouting department short and mitigate the draft process as getting lucky. In today's football there are so many tools scouts have at their disposal. Analytics can used so probalities of success or lack of based on measurables. Think Oliver pick here. He dropped mostly due to lack of size. So yes luck is involved but it much more than that.