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I never called the guy a great leader.

Agree 100%. That's why this issue is huge. It completely bucks what McD has built. Diggs as a captain and leader of the team absolutely has a rapport and respect of his teammates. Time will tell what transpires. Not a great look right now.

Bingo! That's the way I see it to. Is it that unreasonable?

Really nice post!

It goes 100% against the culture McD had built. For that reason it's a very big deal.

Teams will franchise Qbs should make SB appearances. Agree?

Diggs holds all the cards here and he knows it. I'm on record saying Diggs would be a problem this year. I rec'd a lot of negativity for that. This is just the beginning. Imho, Diggs is a super competitive player. He wants to win and doesn't handle losing well. He can likely see McD and Dorsey can't and won't get it done. He bit his tongue on the sideline with McD. He's probably close to reaching his breaking point. The McD culture building will be fractured. It is likely to get pretty ugly.

I don't disagree at all.

Agree 100% about regular season vs post season. McD is 4-5 in the post season. The last two post season were 13 seconds and the Cinci game. You can do the math.

People are misrepresenting what I said or I didn't make myself clear. Let me try again. I'm not saying fans here don't want a SB appearence or SB win. Of course all fans do! I'm saying several fans here are satisfied with great regular seasons and playoff appearences. They enjoy the winning and care entertained. Winning it all is seen as a bonus. They don't see losing early in the playoffs as a poor season, an unsuccessful season, or a disappointing season. For many, they are more than satisfied with the way the team has made 6 straight playoff appearances and multiple divisiob titles. The bar isn't a SB win. It's a bonus not a requirement or an expectation. Sure they may be disappointed but un the end they view the seasons under McD and Beane a success. Depends on how you see things? Personally, I don't see the last three seasons are successful. They had legit chances to go further especially the last two years. I believe they should have had made a SB appearence by now. Even a ring was a real possibility. Hope that clarifies my point of view.

It's unknown whether Reich would have been a better choice than McD. Certainly, McD and Beane have built a winning team in Buffalo. Football during their reign hasn't sucked watching games. It's been really fun and entertaining. Making consecutive playoff appearences is fantastic. Buffalo attracting positive media attention is almost unheard of. Quality players on the open market wanting to play for Buffalo. Players taking a Buffalo discount. In short, there is plenty to like about Beane and McD. That's coming from one of their toughest critics. The choice to hire them has paid dividends. However, the teams goal hasn't been met. A SB appearence and or win isn't an unreasonable goal. In fact, i'd argue that the team has woefully failed the last two years. It was absolutely there for the taking. I truthfully believe coaching was the fundamental reason why the Bills didn't move forward. The regime probably deserves a chance to get it right. Imho, I've seen enough and I would welcome a change. Just my two cents.

I beg to differ. There are so many people here who are more than happy with Bills playoff appearances and winning regular season records. They consider that an enjoyable and successful season. There is plenty of documentation. Of course, all Bills fans want a Super appearance and win. However, for many fans that would be icing on the cake a bonus sort of speak. Years of losing still looms in many of us. As a result, the Bills great regular seasons and playoff appearances are fantastic. Euphoric to many. Many fans bar is not a SB win. Disagree. Many are on record saying so. It's not SB or bust.

I would have had no problem having Frank Reich replace McD. He has Buffalo ties and by all accounts his players respect and play hard for him. He is offensive minded and I believe a coaching change is more the welcome. Truthfully, I didn't see much of a risk if the Bills went in that direction. Agree with everything except "excuses aren't going to fly this time." There will be excuses or as one poster likes to say explanations.

I feel your frustration as well. Others will say be happy they are making the playoffs and are a very good team. Not sure why both can't be true.

The sad part is Allen hasn't achieved what the others have except Herbert. The others have Super Bowl appearances and or rings. Make you wanna shout...

Home run post here.

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Agree but the Bills offense is a concern too. The playbook seems to be double Diggs and let someone else WR beat them. The Bills need an upgrade at the WR2 position. Hopefully Kincaid opens things up or the other acquired Wrs do. Also, the oline has been very inconsistent. Allen has to be superman. Hopefully, the oline improves as does the running game. Lastly, Dorsey was learning on the job. He needs to get better and hopefully he does.

Really nice post Shaw! That's some good reading.

Great post. I echo the same sentiments.

Ignorance is playing doctor from the seat of your living tv. You have no idea who and what impact that incident played on each Bills player. Making a blanket statement about PTSD doesn't cut it... Great point. Everyone deals with trauma differently. To suggest the level of impact on a team is something that's impossible.

Shaw, you have no idea how much of an impact the Damar incident affected the Bills players. You have no idea if any of them suffered from PTSD? For how long? How they coped with it? If it affected their play and practice? You have no idea if the Damar incident could have been used as a positive when he was released from the hospital, talked to his teammates, and perhaps gave them inspirational words. It's unknown. What's known is that it certainly was used as an explanation as to why the Bills lost to the Bengals. Along with snowstorms, injuries, etc...Pick you explanation...

Lots of good points here Thurman. Always, enjoy your post even if they conflict with my perspective. I don't think anyone disputes last season was "one of the hardest and most draining seasons in NFL history." I'd be foolish to debate that premise. To suggest anyone is saying this is pretty disingenuous. What's debatable is how much did the season's events impact the team? More specifically, the playoff games vs Miami and Cinci? You don't know nor do I. It's all speculation. Many suggest it had a great impact since the Bills players so poorly vs Cinci and barely beat Miami. Is that an opinion or fact? Could one say with validity that the Bills just weren't that good? That the Damar impact was behind them due to his miracle recover? Let's go back in history sort of speak. Upon entering the playoffs the Bills players and fans were getting fantastic updates on Damar's progress. It was increasing clear that Damar was going to be fine. He was alive, getting stronger each day, humble, and inspirational. It was fairly clear to me that Damar's life threatening experience was being transitioned into a motivating experience for fans and players. Fans and players gravitating towards win it all for Damar! It's fate! Fans packed the stadium with Damar jerseys and signs. You could feel the relief on the fans and players. It was time to play football! If you didn't feel it " you just don't get it." The Bills played a resilant, upstart, gritty, and AFC rival Dolphins. A very tough fought out win. Resilience is a word that comes to mind. Not one word about how tough the season's journey was. Not one word about how Damar negatively impacted the players. No "explanations" if you will. No excuses if you will. Fast forward to the Cinci game. Did you hear anything about how the season's journey was too much to overcome? Did it even enter your mind? This wasn't even a consideration for anyone on this board. In fact, it was quite the opposite. Most thought the Bills would win. They were playing at home vs a depleted Cinci Oline. Damar was likely going to make an impact prior to the game. This was looked at as a positive not a negative. We know how the game was played and ended. No need to go there. Actually, brings back a little pain, frustration, and anger to reminess. Point being no one really knows what level of impact the season's journey had on the outcome of the Miami or Cinci games. I'd be naive to think it didn't have some role. However, I tend to think that the season's journey played a significant role to the Bills playoff loss. Instead, I think the Bills were the inferior team. Led by an inferior coaching staff that didn't put the players in the best position to win.

I can see them Thurman. It's just not as green as I would like. Can't an explanation be an excuse? I don't believe they are independent. Or does the term "explanation" fit your narrative? Clever...

Going with optimism here. 61 catches 680 yards 6 TDS