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Hmmm, well, maybe? We do know that Hurts signed a 5 year, $255M contract with $179M guaranteed last spring, right? I mean, you're not wrong, but a look at Hurts actual cap impacts....makes my head hurt Edit: https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/philadelphia-eagles/jalen-hurts-47648/ I flatter myself that I'm decent at capology, and that one still makes my head hurt.

So did he visit the Bills?

Well played, Sir! That's a very fair point. But there are UDFA on various rosters around the league too. I think the point is, the plug isn't pulled on guys who can actually play in the league at Draft Pick #150, or Draft Pick #250, or Draft Pick #259. Some of the guys who get drafted earlier won't "cut the mustard", and some of the 7th rounders and UDFA will.

*perfect*

I see your point - and he is on the team. Would mean he's gotten skinny in the off-season though. Better put him on the Dawkins Diet If we're talking Eli Ankou though, let's give a Shout-out to his work off field https://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl360-gone-eli-ankou

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LOL, No.

YOU may be excused now!

I know who my brain told me that is, but who is it? From the Bills social media tiktok about golden moles

There's also a component of participation in individual sports like parkour, ninja, rock climbing, etc are soaring

Looked like he had his "skinny bod" on, ready to go shirtless on the red carpet. AND HE CAN MOVE!

HERE YOU GO! WHAT JOSH DID THIS OFF SEASON! (the last 2 seconds of this -

Matt Milano looks ready to keep him company

Good for him, I hope it helped pay his defense attorney for his 2014 DUI charges that got him released from the Colts in September. I don't remember when they instituted the bonus pool for UDFA. Da'Rick Rogers was 2013. So maybe he did get a bigger bonus. He could still get a bigger bonus if the pool was in effect or today - it's just a matter of how much of their pool they want to spend on 1 guy. So my point is, it's not likely to be THAT much bigger - maybe it's $120k vs $93k - and if a guy sticks on the roster, that difference is swallowed up by the $63k difference in salary between Mr Irrelevant and a UDFA rookie. Of course, if a guy gets cut and put on the practice squad, then the bonus is what matters.

I think the answer to your either or question is "Yes" FIFY

There were a number of folks here - IIRC I think @BADOLBILZ was one - who were salty over trading up to Cody Ford in the 2nd when DK Metcalf was still on the board. Though, if we're playing 2019 Draft "do over", I call dibs on AJ Brown.

That isn't quite true. UDFA have a minimum salary of $750,000 if they stay on the roster They can be paid a variable bonus, but each team has a total pool from which they can pay bonuses. So while they can use that entire pool on one player if they choose, the entire amount is rather small "Franchises only have a certain total amount of money that they can pull from to use for signing bonuses for UDFAs. The number is determined based on the team’s total budgeted allotment for rookies, and last year ranged between $160,000 and $200,000, depending on the team. Teams can give as much or as little of their pool to a single player, but they only have the budgeted allotment." https://dknetwork.draftkings.com/2023/4/29/23703444/udfa-salaries-how-much-money-do-undrafted-free-agents-make-nfl-salaries-2023-draft The last player drafted in the 7th round will get a signing bonus of $93k. While in theory, teams could sign an UDFA and give him more signing bonus, in practice, that usually doesn't happen.

Wellllllll.....a couple of things One is, as the author points out, the people who have cred on the line in a good draft (those inside NFL buildings) evaluate talent differently than the media pundits. So that's not to say that teams agree with him there are only 150 draftable guys ( that's typically about halfway through the 5th round - the Bills drafted Shorter with pick 150 last season. Some may think 125, some may think 250. Two is, for different teams, they aren't going to be the same 150 guys. So chances are good at pick 160 and 163, there are still going to be guys the Bills are interested in drafting. The overwhelming reason I roll my eyes is that last season, 485 undrafted players made NFL rosters. That's an average of 15 players per team. Some of these players, of course, are veterans who may have kicked around the league on practice squads before making a roster. But the Bills signed 7 just last season. Two of them are still around on the Practice Squad, while our 2 7th round picks were cut and are gone.

You know that would be a drop-off of 5-10 TD, about 800 yds and 100 receptions for Josh Allen and the Bills, right?

If it's desired to merge this into page 170 of the Diggs traded for picks thread, feel free I just thought this was interesting. I won't give my spin on it. https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/dion-dawkins-admits-bills-trading-stefon-diggs-was-a-blind-haymaker-but-ot-backs-buffalos-decision/

Hold up here. The "problem" story line has been around for more than a year. It started at the end of 2022 when Diggs was observed / heard saying stuff on the sideline, culminating in the Bills playoff loss to Cincy where Diggs (who was 4 of 10 for 35 yds in that game) was observed gesturing and yelling at Josh. Then there's the storming out of the locker room. Then there's the mandatory minicamp drama after being a no-show at voluntary OTAs. Then storming out again after this year's loss. There have been stories of stuff Diggs pulled off the field drifting around here and there. This isn't new. This didn't all emerge post-trade. I'm not telling you what to think - you can call those narratives "embarrassing" if you like. I'm just telling you more than one thing can be true. It can be true that Diggs is one of the hardest workers on the team and goes hard every snap of every game (or at least, every snap that involves him potentially getting the ball and when he doesn't take himself out). It can also be true that behind the scenes, in the locker room, he was a 'problem' for the team at times. It can also be true that in terms of objective metrics the Bills collect (GPS data etc) Diggs was falling off a bit - not getting open as much, not showing as much burst or speed.

Fair enough, I'm not methodical and assiduous in following all players social media. What else?

I think it's a LAMP-y way of saying "Hey! My Wife is 4 years NED from cancer today, YIPPEE-KAI-YEA!" Congrats on the divorce AND on the 5 years!

Oh, now THAT'S serious. Throw your pregnant girlfriend around 'like a ragdoll', punch her in the face, repeatedly punch her in the stomach, and choke her? "Tyreek Hill, you're going to be a Kansas City Chief!" Allegedly break your son's arm? "This is our year, just catch the ball and run fast, fella." Leave a bar, get in your car, drive 50 miles over the speed limit, cause a multi-vehicle pile-up and injuries, leave the scene, and get charged with 8 felonies - No Big Deal. Leave your Chiefs team playbook in the wrecked car? CUT THE BASTARD!

Oh, I don't know, do you think, as @NoHuddleKelly12 said elsewhere, "the Order of Little Sisters of the Poor showed up to start at Linebacker for the Bills against KC in the playoffs" might have some impact on the results? I don't think AJ Klein, Tyrel Dodson (with one wing), and Dane Jackson, not to mention injured Rasul Douglas, exactly scared KC's offense. We'll never quite be able to do the experiment, but it's a fact that KC had the #6 offense in the league on points, #5 on yards, Tyreek Hill (1083 yds), Travis Kelce (1038 yds), and Kareem Hunt (1327 rush yards) in 2017 while Pat Mahomes was sitting on the bench to "watch and learn" how Alex Smith prepared and played each week. And the same supporting cast was there for his rookie year.