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Do You Like What Beane Did in the First Round?
Beck Water replied to Gugny's topic in The Stadium Wall
And that's a fine principle. Let's suppose San Francisco had Worthy ahead of Pearsall on their board, while Beane (right or wrong) has 0 interest in Worthy. They have a 3rd round grade on him, say. So, what if Dallas or the Ravens trade with KC? KC still gets Worthy, and we don't get their 3rd round pick. KC has gotten a lot of meat and potatoes out of their recent 3rd round picks. So let's see, in that scenario, KC helps themselves and we get nothing for high-mindedly holding out, instead of taking their 3rd round pick (which presumably also helps us) -
Do You Like What Beane Did in the First Round?
Beck Water replied to Gugny's topic in The Stadium Wall
What we can reasonably guess is that the Chiefs offered more than the other callers. -
Do You Like What Beane Did in the First Round?
Beck Water replied to Gugny's topic in The Stadium Wall
One of the things I like about Beane is there's very little pissing and moaning about the hand he's been dealt. He looks at his cards, decides what he needs to get what he wants, and wheels and deals accordingly. In this case, he dealt our 3rd round pick to help us be competitive after injuries during the season - and it worked. But then the NFL screwed us on the comp pick formula, left us without the 3rd we expected, and was deaf to appeals. So Beane shrugged, rolled up his sleeves, and figured out what he needed to do. I remember all too well the days of Buddy Nix moaning on the catfished cell phone call about how the Bills "only had 6 picks - what can you do with 6 picks?" Beane may be right, he may be wrong, but if he goes down, he's going to go down trying to make a difference. -
Live 2024 NFL Draft thread - Round 1 (Do NOT tip the Bills pick)
Beck Water replied to Simon's topic in The Stadium Wall
What stadium are they waiting at? -
Live 2024 NFL Draft thread - Round 1 (Do NOT tip the Bills pick)
Beck Water replied to Simon's topic in The Stadium Wall
They aren't dissimilar in size, but as far as I can figure they seem to be scouted as rather different players https://www.nfl.com/prospects/devonta-smith/3200534d-4920-6016-573c-fcc767bafc4d https://www.nfl.com/prospects/xavier-worthy/3200574f-5274-1496-c9ca-5c4709faa05b Brett Veach is a great GM, no doubt, and KC is the team to beat until proven otherwise. So I understand the indignation towards helping KC get anything they want. He also doesn't have a perfect draft record - Mecole Hardman and Skyy Moore before looking like he hit with a WR on his third shot in Rashee Rice (and then....) Clyde Edwards-Helaire in the 1st who got outplayed by 7th rounder Pacheco. Time will tell. -
Live 2024 NFL Draft thread - Round 1 (Do NOT tip the Bills pick)
Beck Water replied to Simon's topic in The Stadium Wall
"we panicked" Seriously? -
Live 2024 NFL Draft thread - Round 1 (Do NOT tip the Bills pick)
Beck Water replied to Simon's topic in The Stadium Wall
Fair question well asked -
Live 2024 NFL Draft thread - Round 1 (Do NOT tip the Bills pick)
Beck Water replied to Simon's topic in The Stadium Wall
What In The Name Of Little Pink Penguins -
Live 2024 NFL Draft thread - Round 1 (Do NOT tip the Bills pick)
Beck Water replied to Simon's topic in The Stadium Wall
Who said that? -
Live 2024 NFL Draft thread - Round 1 (Do NOT tip the Bills pick)
Beck Water replied to Simon's topic in The Stadium Wall
That would 200% suck. If it gives him a slow start with Jax tho couldn't happen to a nicer team. -
Live 2024 NFL Draft thread - Round 1 (Do NOT tip the Bills pick)
Beck Water replied to Simon's topic in The Stadium Wall
Interesting -
Live 2024 NFL Draft thread - Round 1 (Do NOT tip the Bills pick)
Beck Water replied to Simon's topic in The Stadium Wall
Like wat? -
Live 2024 NFL Draft thread - Round 1 (Do NOT tip the Bills pick)
Beck Water replied to Simon's topic in The Stadium Wall
100-ish points 660->760 I think 4th and a 5th wouldn't quite do it? -
Live 2024 NFL Draft thread - Round 1 (Do NOT tip the Bills pick)
Beck Water replied to Simon's topic in The Stadium Wall
Apparently wrong -
Live 2024 NFL Draft thread - Round 1 (Do NOT tip the Bills pick)
Beck Water replied to Simon's topic in The Stadium Wall
If the Steelers want to get anything out of Wilson OR see what they have in Fields, they got to keep them upright -
Live 2024 NFL Draft thread - Round 1 (Do NOT tip the Bills pick)
Beck Water replied to Simon's topic in The Stadium Wall
The only thing I can think is they're planning to do a Mahomes, where their QB "watches and learns" for a year, then trade Kirk and his fully guaranteed $27.5 salary. Atlanta would have to eat $37.5 of dead money from his signing bonus, but .................. -
Live 2024 NFL Draft thread - Round 1 (Do NOT tip the Bills pick)
Beck Water replied to Simon's topic in The Stadium Wall
Well Played, Sir! Well Played! -
Live 2024 NFL Draft thread - Round 1 (Do NOT tip the Bills pick)
Beck Water replied to Simon's topic in The Stadium Wall
90M guaranteed at signing, but, Yeah. -
Live 2024 NFL Draft thread - Round 1 (Do NOT tip the Bills pick)
Beck Water replied to Simon's topic in The Stadium Wall
I bet Josh Allen could mystify him easily (seriously for those who don't remember, Josh Allen learned to do card and other magic tricks in college) -
Live 2024 NFL Draft thread - Round 1 (Do NOT tip the Bills pick)
Beck Water replied to Simon's topic in The Stadium Wall
ex-lax brownie on 3...... -
Live 2024 NFL Draft thread - Round 1 (Do NOT tip the Bills pick)
Beck Water replied to Simon's topic in The Stadium Wall
Thanks, I didn't "get it" either. Wonder if the bidding was real, or "puffed up" by the Jets to make Minny nervous? -
Why the Bills don't "need" a traditional X receiver
Beck Water replied to Mikey152's topic in The Stadium Wall
If your point is that the Bills should be very very very sure and then be even more sure before trading, not the entire draft, but maybe top picks from this year AND next...I agree with you If your point is the Bills don't need a guy who can play X or boundary receiver because we can put 2 TE on the line and play our receivers off ball - I disagree My caveat being that I think what you need there is a guy who is "sturdy enough" and "big enough" and "fast enough" combined with being a human who is "very good at football" as Dawkins once said of Diggs....sure other things being equal as @Buffalo716 take the guy who is bigger and faster....but chasing size and speed in receivers sometimes mean you wind up with a guy who is not as good at playing football as a guy with OK size but great moves and hands....mensa conclusion I know I think this ball-parking is incorrect.....the Bills play a lot more man than you think. The reason they wanted Elam, of course, is that Levi Wallace and Dane Jackson were Burnt Toast playing man, that's one of the things we lost when Tre White was injured. But with Benford and Douglas I think they played man last year more than you'd think. -
Why the Bills don't "need" a traditional X receiver
Beck Water replied to Mikey152's topic in The Stadium Wall
So clarifying, that was for 2022, not 2023? -
Why the Bills don't "need" a traditional X receiver
Beck Water replied to Mikey152's topic in The Stadium Wall
I would love to find the source, too, I have a pretty decent memory so I believe I read it - actually it may have been in a Cover1 video - but I've been rummaging around and no can find. Lots of stuff on which Ds play the most man by down and etc. I don't subscribe to any of the stat services though, so maybe someone here who does could find it. Well, he's on to the Titans now. -
Why the Bills don't "need" a traditional X receiver
Beck Water replied to Mikey152's topic in The Stadium Wall
Well, we've talked before, you know I acknowledge that when it comes to watching broadcast film I have "slow eyes" and need all-22 and a couple watchings to know what I'm seeing....but to my eyes, we had real problems beating man coverage last season and that includes Diggs, at least in the 2nd half of the season. It wasn't always press, in that JT O'Sullivan QB School youtube vid on the division game vs KC you can see routes where Snead just sat back and waited for Diggs route to bring him to him, basically - he must have felt pretty confident he understood what route concepts were going to be run from different sets and cues.