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We got to level up his taste in wings

https://www.nfl.com/prospects/keon-coleman/3200434f-4c29-5571-54fa-77236b775ae1 Tell me this isn't Kelvin Benjamin Part Deux?

Make like you're in Paris, @Ralonzo, No Tipping, No Tipping!

Maybe it's Beane on the phone with a GM

It's found on twitter, usually. Or do I mean "X marks the spot?"

Yes

Same!

When do they actually, you know, start picking?

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I believe that $65M dead cap hit in 2025 includes his $27.5M fully-guaranteed salary. Sooo in theory, they could trade him next year, and "only" have $37.5M dead hit....a mere pittance more than the $31.1M dead cap the Bills swallowed on Diggs.

Wonder if he still drives an old beater minivan and lives in his mother-in-law's basement during the off season? https://www.cnbc.com/2017/09/29/nfl-star-kirk-cousins-spends-summers-in-his-parents-basement.html

God, that would be awful for the players. At some point, will the NFLPA "cowboy up" and actually represent their interests?

I think here, Greg Tompsett who is normally reliable about cap issues etc, is skirting what's happened. There have been several instances where a contract re-negotiation that helped the receiving trade partner's cap took place simultaneously with the trade. I think the "devil in the details" is that it's formally negotiated by the trading partner and signed off by the player/his rep prior to executing the trade, but 100% it's done on behalf of the receiving partner. One minor example would be Case Keenum, who agreed to a salary reduction as part of the trade deal that brought him to Buffalo.

I think once the Bills are serious about negotiations, they make it a condition that nothing is to be leaked until the deal is done. But I agree (and Beane has said) that a lot of times when the Bills interest is reported, it's as simple as a due diligence phone call.

You renegotiate a contract extension as part of the trade and set this year's cap hit to be lower than the cap space you have. In theory, it COULD be done; given what Deebo would probably want before locking himself up in an extension, they'd probably have to renegotiate 1 or more other contracts. I just don't see why the Bills, having just assumed a $31M dead cap hit for bailing on one WR they negotiated an expensive extension with at age 28 1/2, would be anxious to repeat that with another 28 1/2 yr old WR (and one who has struggled with availability, as well)

Diggs was more of a "why?" than a "can't". Like why lose the services of a WR who is still good AND take on an additional $3M of cap hit?" The Bills answered that with "We have our reasons, 2nd round next year Good Enough." Samuel, the Bills would have to negotiate an extension as part of the trade. Which, they could. But you'd think, having just signed a big contract extension with a 28 1/2 yr old WR who only stayed with the team 2 years and wound up costing us a $31M dead cap hit, the Bills would not be eager to sign another big contract extension with a 28 1/2 yr old WR. Here's the thing: some teams develop a pattern of trying to buy the greatness they need. You see it with Denver, who managed a Superbowl with the Ghost of Peyton Manning, and then acquired Russ Wilson hoping to ride him to another championship. You see it with the Vikes, who saddled up Favre for a ride to a conference championship, then tried Bradford after it looked as though Shurmur reclaimed him in Philly, then Cousins (with whom they never managed the conference game). Obviously it works sometimes, but overall for sustained success, "draft, develop, resign" seems like the better plan. And that's what Beane has preached. One could view acquiring John Brown and Beasley, then Diggs, then Emmanuel Sanders, as the same 'hired gun" philosophy applied to WR. So is he gonna practice what he's preached, or is he essentially going after the hired gun approach again? I'm past predicting what Beane will or won't do, myself. I don't want to see us trade for Samuel, But, Whatever. I tend to doubt it because any time we hear about the Bills interest in a trade, it never seems to happen. But whaddo I know?

My gut is that in general, when you hear about Bills interest in a trade, it's maybe at the level of a phone call "so, would the player possibly be available? oh, OK, Thanks"

Well, OK, we just disagree about what is the more "cautious" vs "higher risk" approach. Personally, I think Beane is a stone-cold killer when it comes to calculating odds and predicting which way the "frog will jump" in the draft. So to me it comes down to player personnel evaluation, which is actually not Beane's forte' as a GM. And either they're right about Worthy, or they're mistaken about Worthy. If they're wrong, how KC got him is just re-arranging the deck chairs on the boat crossing the North Atlantic. If they're right, then how KC got him doesn't matter, but that 3rd round pick might be handy.

Well...... in theory, drunk retirees in the middle of the day could have forgotten more football then most of us will ever know....... ......that was true of my Grandpa, who never learned how to use a computer (or a calculator, for that matter - he could add up a column of 40 5 and 6 digit numbers accurately in his head, faster than I could enter them). But then, he never called into radio, either, AM or FM.

You know, I hadn't thought of that....but that's actually one of the most plausible explanations I've heard to explain it

I had not realized this.

I dunno Gunner. That seems like a "cut off your nose to spite your face" philosophy. It's fan-think vs. professional-think. JMO. The fundamental issue here is really player evaluation. Either the Bills were correct in their player evaluation of Xavier Worthy (in which case who cares that KC drafted him) or, they were fundamentally mistaken (in which case, who cares how KC managed to draft him, just that they did).

Hello. It's April 26th The season starts in September. That Is All OK, no, I lied. One more thing. If your concern is Troy Franklin being "skinnier than a marathon runner", how do you describe the skinniness of Xavier Worth? Did he get beefier because KC drafted him?

The interesting thing is if you look at the 4 - 5ths we now have, two of them are in the 1st 10 picks of the 5th round In theory, we should be able to package 2 of the 5ths or a 5th and a 6th to move up into the 4th if we wish, or, package one with our late 2nd or late 3rd to move up in that respective round

I endorse this take!