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Where did I say that was my expectation?

Well.....it depends upon what you mean by that Overall the odds are something like 20-30% (higher at the top of the round, lower at the bottom But they're not that much higher in the bottom of the 1st/top of the 2nd Beane's 3rd round picks: Harrison Phillips - struggled with us possibly due to injuries, 34 starts in 2 seasons for Vikes Devin Singletary - 4 year starter for us, 898 yds on 10 starts for Houston last season. Solid. Zach Moss - didn't start for us but 11 starts and 22 games for the Ponies, 794 yds last year Spencer Brown - 41 starts including all 17 last season, Solid Terrel Bernard - looked like a terror last season after rough rookie outings Dorian Williams - to be determined, see Bernard, Terrel I would say Beane's record in the 3rd round is pretty durn good - every one of the guys we have more than a year of data on can play ball. Not stars of stars, but can play. 3 of the 6 we have adequate data on have been starters for us, 2 more hit their stride for other teams.

Yeah, I'm seeing that as a theme. This guy: 3 year team captain, scholar-athlete award in the ACC. Safety Bishop, they said he's a leader, you hear him getting the DBs into position.

You guys should start a "Bad Takes" festival and sell tickets for $2 a pop. Round these parts, you might make book enough for a Tall Flat White at Starbucks. Better go for the decaff espresso.

You Sure?

God, I hope not. I think he's a legit player, although it could be said, undersized for a DT in the NFL. But he seems to be a player in the Kyle Williams "rolling ball of butcher knives" mold. To be fair, you could say that about defense, too, right? Bishop is replacing Poyer and Hyde with a less proven guy. Carter is replacing Jordan Phillips with a less proven guy. We cut or let walk a bunch of vet defenders this off-season.

I doubt the Bills trade without knowing who Carolina is going to pick. My guess would be the Bills were talking to multiple teams about a trade-up, and Carolina was afraid one of them would draft Legette whom apparently Carolina was known to be high on. It's possible with Dan Morgan there one of the Bills team reached out and said hey, we're talking to Team X about a trade, you want to beat their offer? and Carolina believed Team X was after Legette, so they did.

What I thought, thanks!

Forgot Cam Lewis, and he matters because he can back up both nickel and boundary CB

Since you know something about him...looking at his draft profile, he projects as a 3TDT?

I think what it says is that they have a number of guys about equal on their board with no one sticking out

Ohkay dokay so we're not trading up Anyone got a list of BPA?

I would believe it. Watch him run the gauntlet - I don't have "scout's eyes" for estimating speed by sight like @Buffalo716, but it's marked enough that I can see the difference between his speed in the gauntlet when catching footballs is the order of business, -vs- the 40 yd dash where he was trying to run fast. Someone said he reached 21 mph in the gauntlet

We're coming into the range where I thought we might find a trade partner for 1 of our 5th round picks and the KC 3rd to move us up 3-5 slots if we want

Rapp is a danger to his fellow defenders. That's a real way of putting it.

Loved this follow up to RGIII here:

Easy. If the rookie picks up the system and is the better baller, McDermott will play him. This crap about McDermott not playing rookies is baloney. O'Cyrus Torrance started 17 games. Kincaid played 16 games, 63% of the snaps and Knox, who had the 9th or 10th highest cap hit on the team, saw his snap count drop 20%. Rapp is getting a salary of $1.77M this year and has a cap hit of $2.8M, 18th on the team right now. It's not like he's getting paid superstar $$

Or maybe they did the work, concluded they did want him, but had Cole Bishop higher on their board?

So what teams DO draft 100% BPA if I may ask? Once you have a reasonably good team, seems to me you can't draft entirely BPA, or you wind up with too many OLmen and no DB or vice versa. I think all the good teams draft need-modified or need-influenced BPA.

It'll be interesting to see what Beane does now. We have 4 4th round picks, 2 of them reasonably high. Would not surprise me to see Beane use a 4th rounder and a later pick to try to move up in the 3rd.

Dude, are you channeling that kid from the old advertisement? "We'll give it to Mikey, He Hates EVERYTHING!"

So for you guys who don't like the pick, Greg Cosell is lukewarm about it, based on film. https://www.buffalobills.com/video/greg-cosell-top-wrs-left-for-the-bills-on-day-2-of-the-nfl-draft He really likes Adonai Mitchell, based on film

I actually came here to say just that. High risk/High reward Draft Board for the Ponies. They're either going to be much better, or much sad.

Yeah, I was watching the gauntlet vs. his 40 yd dash, and what a difference. He looked much faster.

Here ya go. Stay away from the floofy drinks next time, stick to brown ale or sippin' whisky