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Diggs was more of a "why?" than a "can't". Like why lose the services of a WR who is still good AND take on an additional $3M of cap hit?" The Bills answered that with "We have our reasons, 2nd round next year Good Enough." Samuel, the Bills would have to negotiate an extension as part of the trade. Which, they could. But you'd think, having just signed a big contract extension with a 28 1/2 yr old WR who only stayed with the team 2 years and wound up costing us a $31M dead cap hit, the Bills would not be eager to sign another big contract extension with a 28 1/2 yr old WR. Here's the thing: some teams develop a pattern of trying to buy the greatness they need. You see it with Denver, who managed a Superbowl with the Ghost of Peyton Manning, and then acquired Russ Wilson hoping to ride him to another championship. You see it with the Vikes, who saddled up Favre for a ride to a conference championship, then tried Bradford after it looked as though Shurmur reclaimed him in Philly, then Cousins (with whom they never managed the conference game). Obviously it works sometimes, but overall for sustained success, "draft, develop, resign" seems like the better plan. And that's what Beane has preached. One could view acquiring John Brown and Beasley, then Diggs, then Emmanuel Sanders, as the same 'hired gun" philosophy applied to WR. So is he gonna practice what he's preached, or is he essentially going after the hired gun approach again? I'm past predicting what Beane will or won't do, myself. I don't want to see us trade for Samuel, But, Whatever. I tend to doubt it because any time we hear about the Bills interest in a trade, it never seems to happen. But whaddo I know?

My gut is that in general, when you hear about Bills interest in a trade, it's maybe at the level of a phone call "so, would the player possibly be available? oh, OK, Thanks"

Well, OK, we just disagree about what is the more "cautious" vs "higher risk" approach. Personally, I think Beane is a stone-cold killer when it comes to calculating odds and predicting which way the "frog will jump" in the draft. So to me it comes down to player personnel evaluation, which is actually not Beane's forte' as a GM. And either they're right about Worthy, or they're mistaken about Worthy. If they're wrong, how KC got him is just re-arranging the deck chairs on the boat crossing the North Atlantic. If they're right, then how KC got him doesn't matter, but that 3rd round pick might be handy.

Well...... in theory, drunk retirees in the middle of the day could have forgotten more football then most of us will ever know....... ......that was true of my Grandpa, who never learned how to use a computer (or a calculator, for that matter - he could add up a column of 40 5 and 6 digit numbers accurately in his head, faster than I could enter them). But then, he never called into radio, either, AM or FM.

You know, I hadn't thought of that....but that's actually one of the most plausible explanations I've heard to explain it

I had not realized this.

I dunno Gunner. That seems like a "cut off your nose to spite your face" philosophy. It's fan-think vs. professional-think. JMO. The fundamental issue here is really player evaluation. Either the Bills were correct in their player evaluation of Xavier Worthy (in which case who cares that KC drafted him) or, they were fundamentally mistaken (in which case, who cares how KC managed to draft him, just that they did).

Hello. It's April 26th The season starts in September. That Is All OK, no, I lied. One more thing. If your concern is Troy Franklin being "skinnier than a marathon runner", how do you describe the skinniness of Xavier Worth? Did he get beefier because KC drafted him?

The interesting thing is if you look at the 4 - 5ths we now have, two of them are in the 1st 10 picks of the 5th round In theory, we should be able to package 2 of the 5ths or a 5th and a 6th to move up into the 4th if we wish, or, package one with our late 2nd or late 3rd to move up in that respective round

I endorse this take!

And that's a fine principle. Let's suppose San Francisco had Worthy ahead of Pearsall on their board, while Beane (right or wrong) has 0 interest in Worthy. They have a 3rd round grade on him, say. So, what if Dallas or the Ravens trade with KC? KC still gets Worthy, and we don't get their 3rd round pick. KC has gotten a lot of meat and potatoes out of their recent 3rd round picks. So let's see, in that scenario, KC helps themselves and we get nothing for high-mindedly holding out, instead of taking their 3rd round pick (which presumably also helps us)

What we can reasonably guess is that the Chiefs offered more than the other callers.

One of the things I like about Beane is there's very little pissing and moaning about the hand he's been dealt. He looks at his cards, decides what he needs to get what he wants, and wheels and deals accordingly. In this case, he dealt our 3rd round pick to help us be competitive after injuries during the season - and it worked. But then the NFL screwed us on the comp pick formula, left us without the 3rd we expected, and was deaf to appeals. So Beane shrugged, rolled up his sleeves, and figured out what he needed to do. I remember all too well the days of Buddy Nix moaning on the catfished cell phone call about how the Bills "only had 6 picks - what can you do with 6 picks?" Beane may be right, he may be wrong, but if he goes down, he's going to go down trying to make a difference.

What stadium are they waiting at?

They aren't dissimilar in size, but as far as I can figure they seem to be scouted as rather different players https://www.nfl.com/prospects/devonta-smith/3200534d-4920-6016-573c-fcc767bafc4d https://www.nfl.com/prospects/xavier-worthy/3200574f-5274-1496-c9ca-5c4709faa05b Brett Veach is a great GM, no doubt, and KC is the team to beat until proven otherwise. So I understand the indignation towards helping KC get anything they want. He also doesn't have a perfect draft record - Mecole Hardman and Skyy Moore before looking like he hit with a WR on his third shot in Rashee Rice (and then....) Clyde Edwards-Helaire in the 1st who got outplayed by 7th rounder Pacheco. Time will tell.

"we panicked" Seriously?

Fair question well asked

What In The Name Of Little Pink Penguins

Who said that?

That would 200% suck. If it gives him a slow start with Jax tho couldn't happen to a nicer team.

Interesting

Like wat?

100-ish points 660->760 I think 4th and a 5th wouldn't quite do it?

Apparently wrong

If the Steelers want to get anything out of Wilson OR see what they have in Fields, they got to keep them upright