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Yeah, that made my ears prick up. Like Dude, you fancy yourself a bit; better put your head down and grind

I think he's a chill guy with the pads and cleats off. Once they go on: Savage

Temper that info with the knowledge that Edwards went out with a hammy yesterday, and McDermott described him as "week to week" Right, I mean, Bishop was apparently out with the 1's for the initial walk through. They seem to be alternating, with the caveat that Edwards is out so it's a 2 man rotation not a 3 man right now.

What? It's not unknown for players or players and coaches to get into it on the sidelines, or in private meetings for that matter, and whether both sides move on or it turns out to be symptomatic of larger problems, is a conclusion reached in hindsight and typically without much actual insider knowledge. Your boy Kelce hit Andy Reid on the sidelines during the Superbowl. Kelce said it was unacceptable and Reid said it just shows Kelce's desire to win so nominally it's all worked out. I admire Kelce's play on the field but if the Chiefs move on from him after this coming season rather than pay a $19.5M roster bonus and this and that other tidbit rumors of conflict emerge, are we all supposed to come on your board (if you have one) and yap about how everyone should have seen it coming, those who took the position that it all got worked out and it's NBD are "wrong" and those who said "maybe there's trouble brewing with Kelce as he's still demanding playing time and target share" are "100% validated"? The facts are, the Bills took on an extra dead cap hit this year and forwent Diggs services this season, in exchange for a 2025 2nd round pick that they hope will be high. They got #1 WR production out of Diggs for the first 6 games (103 ypg) and #3-type production (45 ypg) the last 7 games. Anything else is surmise and conjucture, period. But the NFL is generally recognized to be all about "what have you done for me lately?". While 11 targets and 103 ypg are proportionate, 8 targets is a lot of target share for only 45 ypg unless the guy is playing almost exclusively from the slot. It seems plausible that there may have been factors beyond fall off in performance which led the Bills to trade Diggs, but it's also factual that the Diggs we saw during the last 7 games of the season and during the playoffs last year was not performing as "the best player to ever share a locker room with Allen". He wasn't even the most productive contributor on the field those 7 games: Shakir had 2 100-yd games, 3.4 targets per game and 52 ypg; Kincaid had 5.4 targets per game and 40.4 ypg. And, your team's own Sneed shot down the notion that Diggs was just being super-tightly doubled and taken away "we didn't even double him" Bottom line, I think there's an awful lot of smoke about Diggs for there to have been no fire, but I also think anyone who tells us that as of the Giants game, when the Bills were 4-2 and Diggs was averaging 11 targets and 103 ypg, they correctly predicted that Diggs was more trouble than he was worth, that the mini-camp meeting showed it, and that he'd be off the team in 2024 one way or another, is Full of Beans (and hindsight). If we're predicting, I'd predict that Diggs will come out the gate hot for the Texans and it will look as though they got their money's worth and more, but we'll see what he looks like at the end of the season/playoffs

I'll believe that last when I see it. The bit about "human psychology being very predictable" is likely to prove ironic. You can believe I'm not being honest if you choose. Why would you think I care what you believe? You're attaching outsize importance to yourself here, though; why would I go around looking for "opportunities to correct you"? Bit egocentric, woudn't you think? IMO, a "blow up" during training camp is different than a private meeting in a coach's office before the start of minicamp, so to me, if there were a training camp blowup I missed or had forgotten about, that would be a significant difference. YMMV, whatev's Either way, it's pretty clear by all accounts that tension between Josh and Diggs dated to the previous season and preceded the Bengals playoff loss where he was publicly observed gesticulating and yelling at Allen while Allen ignored him. The hope at this time last season was that any issues between Allen and Diggs had been resolved or at least patched up effectively. The results early in the season bore this out: the Bills were 4-2 and Diggs had >100 yds receiving in 5 of those 6 games and was 7 of 7 in the 6th. People who say "Oh, everyone should have known there was Big Trouble and Irreconcilable Differences after that private meeting at the start of minicamp" or who claims they believed it all along (including during the first 6 games) are exercising revisionist history at its finest.

And this is going to be this year's big question: do we have receivers who can get off the line vs. press coverage?

They shook at the end. Just to make a point that this is what Timmah Graham and company are saying there ought to be more of from Allen: getting in guys faces when they make a mistake, calling them out, not being "one of the guys".

I think there's a 40% chance that TheThighDoctor is full of baloney. It's not that I don't think there's a chance Milano never gets back to who he was before the injury. There is. But there are just not enough data to put a reasonable % on it. Moreover, did we see Von Miller on the field during training camp last pre-season? No, Esmerelda, we did not. We see flashes from Milano, and other plays where he isn't quite himself. He's playing himself into shape right now. So he's already well ahead of where Von Miller was last season. The Bills have already said they'll be watching Milano's reps, so I'm sure you will see Williams with some 1st team reps

Photos of what that means:

Some coverage on what happened with each of Josh's Friday picks

Over/under on how many Catan Expansion Packs get mailed to Dawson Knox c/o Bills at St John Fisher? Interesting strategy by Josh Allen. For those who don't know: https://www.catan.com/understand-catan/how-do-i-learn-catan

That would kind of reinforce that we're looking at Rapp and a rotation of Hamlin, Edwards, Bishop as our safeties Now this is interesting. Wasn't it "Johnson" with the 1st teamers initially?

I mostly choose to ignore you. If that's living with my head in the sand, I'm OK with that. I just wanted to clarify what you were talking about. Myself, I think the blow-up happened sometime during the 2022 season and the rest was just symptoms or attempts at repair, but that's just me. By training camp last year, the strong narrative was "nothing to see here, All Good!"

OK, I'm calling the question on you. Let's leave out the 90% and just Do You. Here is the current roster. Predict the 53 man roster. Go. To put a little spice in the mix, I will donate $10 to Oishei Children's Hospital for every cut you predict incorrectly. According to you, I only have about $30 at risk. Personally, at this point, I don't believe the Bills coaches and FO can predict 50 out of the 53 man roster. I would say about 39-40 are locks, and the last 13-14 there is still genuine competition

Yeah some quotes from the story: First of all, I doubt anyone criticized Allen for "not acting more enobled" Enobled? Really? What's he supposed to do, demand that the players kneel and swear fealty? Tell them to sit below the salt? Tithe part of their salary to him? "Implored" wasn't the only poor choice of words Recognizing that he's viewed differently by players, sure, and that this gives him more authority in their eyes to say "YOU! SHUT UP! Shut up and catch the ball!", sure. Asking him to perhaps be less of a people pleaser, sure. But "not acting more ennobled"? That's just a weird choice of language. Second, since Allen has played at a very high level for 3 years without an "executive demeanor", why would lacking one cause him to have "rutty play" in 2023? And what the heck is "rutty play"? Graham's article makes no sense. It also, in mourning all the departed leadership in the form of captaincy, Tim Graham does not make note of the fact that two of the remaining players, Dion Dawkins and Reid Ferguson, were captains for the Bills in 2019 and 2020, back when the Bills had 6 or 7 captains and not 8 or 9. That's probably one reason why Dawkins is quoted as saying Long winded way to say @syhuang I agree, not good journalism.

So the "blow up" was him missing the first day, having a meeting with McDermott and others, and either leaving or being told to leave, the building?

Education please: what training camp blow-up was this? I remember Diggs missing the first day of mandatory minicampOTAs and McDermott saying he's very concerned. I don't remember a training camp blow up, or any on-field blow up, at all.

You first, Buddy. I'm not the one here pronouncing "Milano is obviously struggling. Not pushing off on injured leg. Coming back from very serious injury. He may never be the same". We all know a tibial plateau fracture (if that's what Milano had) is a serious injury. Since you're the one making a physical evaluation and stating an opinion and one possible outcome (while implying it's more probable with your "take off your rose colored glasses schtick), seems to me you should state the credentials behind this opinion of yours. I provided a link to an assessment by Kyle Trimble, a PhD physical therapist, whose take is decidedly more positive We also know that the sports medicine physicians and therapists treating him believe he can come back. He hasn't played football in ~10 months, if the posited injury is the correct one he likely spent considerable time non-weight-bearing on his R leg, and he had to ramp up his strengthening gradually. Having him out there at the start of camp is fantastic, and this is not a Von Miller situation where he's talking about being ready for the start of the season but we don't see him out there. We see him out there and he looks great at times and at other times he shows there is still progress to be made, as expected for a guy coming back from injury at the start of training camp.

Sir, what are your medical credentials if we may ask? For those interested, PT Dr Kyle Trimble put together a bunch of clips and his analysis: https://bangedupbills.com/2024/07/27/buffalo-bills-training-camp-injury-review-week-1-2/ He assesses a couple other injuries as well.

Dear Iron Maiden Bills > Araiza Curse > Milano's Milano, Your posting quality is consistent across name changes

last season, the injury was his throwing shoulder 2023 was the torn UCL in his throwing elbow

That's not the kind of guy Allen is, to either of those suggestions