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On the one hand, teams usually give 1st round picks every chance to succeed, so when a team gives up on a 1st rounder after only 2 seasons, it's generally not a good prognosis for that player. On the other hand, Lewis suffered a totally ugly compound leg fracture on special teams early in his rookie season - after only a few games. That was it for his rookie year, and it probably hampered him his 2nd year since he wouldn't have been able to work out as much in the off season. The Vikes re-signed 34 yr old Harrison Smith, who played all 17 games last season and they've got another year of Camryn Bynum Hard to tell if there's an attitude problem or he just wasn't "getting it", or what was going on. Here's his draft profile if anyone is curious https://www.nfl.com/prospects/lewis-cine/32004349-4e66-8075-a009-a60b6f3b4838

Maybe I'm missing something, but this just seems like rehashing old news: Aaron Rodgers gave the NYJ a "wish list" of players to acquire, he got injured in the 1st game, he's missed mandatory minicamp and defends it as the minicamp designation being "arbitrary" Was there actually new news or information in that article? Rodgers is a legit 1st ballot HOF'er who, if he's recuperated and can stay healthy, makes the Jets an instant contender. "Vitamin W" cures just about everything.

I don't disagree that the hit rate at WR (2/5) has not been great on the day 3 picks. I'm just pointing out it's not necessarily better at other positions - yeah, we got a starting CB in the 6th in Christan Benford, a starting nickel in the 4th in Taron Johnson. But what's your take on Dane Jackson, Damar Hamlin, Jacquan Johnson, and Siran Neal? Most people here seemed to think Johnson and Neal had no business starting on D and made the team as STers, which is true. Consensus also seemed to be that Jackson needed an upgrade (which, Elam was supposed to be) and so did Hamlin. And Rachad Wildgoose, Alex Austin, and Daequan Hardy didn't make the team. So let's call Jackson and Hamlin positives (they did both start) and Neal and Jacquan Johnson negatives, fair? So that would be 4 out of 8 hit rate, 50% I guess that's better than 40%, but at the 8 DB vs 5 WR numbers, it's not a significant difference

Case Keenum is on season ending IR. Desmond Ridder and CJ Beathard I grant are available. I don't know about Ridder, but Beathard got most of his playing time with SF, and let's just say I'm not sure he's an upgrade over Trubisky

Hmmm. Shavers is an UDFA. Shorter is a late 5th round pick. Shakir is a late 5th round pick. Gabe Davis is a late 4th round pick. Hodgins is a late 6th round pick. Davis played for us 4 years and signed a low #1/high #2 contract in FA. Shakir seems to be someone we're counting on this year. That's at least 40% hit rate, if you don't count Hodgins having played decently for the Giants (just got cut though) I personally think the weak point is that Beane hasn't invested enough 1st, 2nd and 3rd round picks in WR - not that he's especially poor at ID'ing Day 3 WR talent in the draft. I think if you look at Beane's overall draft record it's not breaking 40% at CB or LB or any other position drafted on day 3, and actually, 40% is pretty good

It surprised Sal Capaccio as well - he had them keeping 6 DE, but he had Jonathan over Toohill

I'm sorry, I meant "confident that Samuel and MVS will be ready to play week 1" If you're going on the point that the Bills haven't given Allen enough weapons at WR, I don't disagree, but do you really see Shavers and Hamler as difference makers there?

Wow, I thought one of Shavers or Hamler would make it. They must be very confident in MVS and Samuel.

I dunno. I think the Bengals have a talent advantage on defense - of course, depending on who is actually on the field for the Bills Perhaps I'm mistaken. And I don't know that much about their safeties, I just think they have a really good DL and CB

There's always the "he toughed his way through the 2nd half but he really has a neck injury, and it won't be a quick one to recover from" a la Shane Buechele

Sal has 10 DL?

That'd be nice... I mean, "what a shame that fine young man might have a promising career start derailed by this"

Deion Jones surprises me. Guess he's this year's Christian Kirsey

He only counts if/when he comes back. There's no special "IR with designation to return" when a player goes on IR any more, it's just a total of how many players can be brought back from IR over the season. But if any player is on IR and brought back, he counts, including one who was IR'd at the beginning of the season. Note there is a rule change this year, two players may be carried on IR without having to be on the 53 man roster, and still be eligible to come back That could occur, certainly Wait wat? Last I heard McDermott was "optimistic" Samuel would be ready at the start of the season?

There was an article about McDermott going back through HS and one of his friends from way back commented that McDermott could really dance!

Kyron Brown. UDFA who started with the Jets in 2019, has been on PS with the Cowboys and Titans. 3rd year.

If they're injured, they can't be cut.

OMG The snark is because it's very rare that a team will keep 3 QB. The #3 QB usually hits the waiver wire on cutdown day.

Turf toe is a fundamentally a sprain, meaning the ligaments are stretched or torn. Like any sprain, the stretching/tearing comes in different degrees. A badly sprained turf toe can indeed linger. A mildly sprained turf toe can recover in a couple weeks. I think the "week to week" designation implies the latter more than the former, but none of us really know. Will you bite your everlovin' gawdforsaken little pointed tongue? Mu - Unsay it! AVERT! You take that back RIGHT NOW!

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/4801978/2023/08/24/fantasy-football-injury-mailbag-turf-toe-recovery-time/ So yeah, turf toe can linger, but if it's a mild Grade I sprain (implied by the week to week) he may be out a couple weeks to heal up and no problem.

I think Tannehill still has "legitimate chance to start" on his want list for a new team. Yes. Keenum is with the Texans and has a pretty good contract. Kyle Allen is under contract to the Steelers - did he play in the preseason game?

He was really bad in Pittsburgh. That's why they boo'ed him.

Um, yes? That was the point of the article I quoted and the examples Banged Up Bill gave. Is there a reason you deleted the rest of my post and responded only to the earliest possible timeline Bangedup found? I'm sure that's true, but I don't think it means he'll be back any sooner than the end of December - IF at all. Remember that Milano wanted to take the field like 3 weeks after a partial pec tear in 2020. Spoiler he wasn't effective, and after 2 ineffective games the Bills IR'd him.

Not being a trainer, I'm not going to comment but I've been told that a torn tendon is felt as it occurs as a burning pain and being able to feel/see the tendon retract. There must have been something atypical about Milano's injury. I agree, the Bills have had some really horrid injury luck the past couple years.

There's no question we need another safety since Mike Edwards seems to have an injury requiring prolonged rehab and Bishop hasn't been able to be on the field learning the system.