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Cabo. At Kyle Allen's wedding to Summer Juraczek - Britt Williams bestie. https://heavy.com/sports/nfl/buffalo-bills/josh-allen-hailee-steinfeld-kyle-allen-wedding-photos-reaction/ https://spicysighs.tumblr.com/post/754226975519981568/hailee-steinfeld-josh-allen-attending-a-wedding Britt Williams also attended "putting it out there" Next up, Dawson Knox (sorry @muppy, he's gonna be officially off the market, like, this week)
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I have to disagree here. The difference is the talkin'. Tre' did not take the media spotlight. He kept his head down and kept grinding. (and to be fair, I believe the Bills drafted Elam to fill in, and activated Tre' earlier than they should have because Elam wasn't cuttin' the mustard) Tre' didn't give press conferences talking about how he would be ready at the start of the season, then about how he wanted to play in London and was ready, then on and on. If Von kept his head down and just kept grinding, he woudn't have nearly so much hate. I thought we signed Leonard Floyd as a Von replacement, and he did give us 10.5 sacks and 32 tackles (though he fell off at the end of the season) No one would be happier than I to see Von play a full season for the Bills and contribute 10-12 sacks.
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I'm really starting to love this WR room. We quietly got better
Beck Water replied to JerseyBills's topic in The Stadium Wall
I think that's actually a fair assessment. And then it's fair to ask "why do the Bills fans on this board not trust the GM and coaches?" Different folks probably have different answers. Some just don't trust them globally, either never have or 13 seconds did it. My basis for lack of trust is, I don't trust them because based on results, 1) they didn't do enough to replace Brown/Sanders and Beasley in 2022 and 2023 2) the OL in 2018 was totally inadequate, and Beane acknowledged after the season that he was cap-strapped but "could have done more and should have done more" 3) same for WR corps in 2017 after we moved on from Woods, Goodwin, and Watkins - I understand moving on from that little robber Goodwin and from Watkins, but a 2nd round draft pick in 2017 and then a 6th rounder in 2018 was simply not enough along with some geriatric FA signings like Anquan Boldin and Andre Holmes and don't get me started on Corey Coleman or Terrele Pryor. In short, the FO and coaches have lost my trust as a fan where WR is concerned based on past history of trying to sell fans inadequate investment and underperforming players as sufficient at that position. I concede that there is potential in the room as far as two homegrown players who took a big step last season and may be capable of another (Kincaid and Shakir), a player who has contributed to SB teams (MVS), a player who turned in back to back decent seasons with Big Ben throwing to him and Diontae Johnson ahead of him but has mucked up his career with his head (Claypool), a 2nd round rookie who has a high ceiling but is raw, and a solid NFL-level slot in Samuel. But it's all "perhaps...perhaps...perhaps" as Doris Day said. -
I'm really starting to love this WR room. We quietly got better
Beck Water replied to JerseyBills's topic in The Stadium Wall
I guess my point is... OK, tell the truth...what did you think of Terrel Bernard when he played for Milano in the 11-6-20 close loss to the Jets? I had an opinion based on that, and never in 1000 years did I expect what we saw from him last season. There's also Shakir, I thought he took a huge step last season. You do You, but professional scouts and coaches watching a player in his rookie year may be totally mistaken about what his ceiling is, so, if you are so clear on that from one season of a player....should you be? No argument at all that the WR going into 2018 was putrid (and 2017 was no better for that matter) , but of course the idea in 2017 was to run the wheels off McCoy and dump off to Charles Clay, and I think McDermott and Beane's expectation going into 2018 was similar. The problem, of course, was 1) the OL was much worse and couldn't run block worth *****, and 2) that apparently wasn't Daboll's idea -
I mean, Von has been "talking the talk" since he was activated before the Jags game, played 20 snaps, and contributed Nada. In 14 subsequent games, he contributed 5 tackles, 2 QB hits, and 0 sacks. My take is "shut up and show me, Von".
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I'm really starting to love this WR room. We quietly got better
Beck Water replied to JerseyBills's topic in The Stadium Wall
How very percipient of you It's a large step in talent and quite likely scheme complexity from East Carolina to the NFL, it's not unheard of for a player to take a year to adjust. -
Interesting Bills storylines to watch during training camp
Beck Water replied to ryguy101's topic in The Stadium Wall
I dunno about "bubble wrap", but I personally don't care how they look in preseason; bring them along slowly and shut them down if they're injured, I say. We've seen that guy who looked fantastic in pre-season then lasted about 10 snaps into the regular season in the past -
Eh. -One WR who has ever caught a regular season pass, but 3 returning receivers with the TE. -Rapp was here last season and played 16 games and 42% of the defensive snaps - when he played, they used Rapp as a safety in Poyer's role and rotated Poyer up into the box as a "dime"- type to take on coverage responsibilities Dodson, playing for Milano, couldn't handle. We also have Cam Lewis and Damar Hamlin as backup safeties who know the system. -The offensive coordinator was here last season and was interim OC for 9 games with a 7-2 record (one OT loss) -The defensive coordinator was here last season and thoroughly familiar with the system The WR corps is inexperienced and I'm less than thrilled with the quality safeties, but I think too much is being made of the "new blood". New blood can be helpful, too.
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I'm really starting to love this WR room. We quietly got better
Beck Water replied to JerseyBills's topic in The Stadium Wall
You're Too Much, you really are. First you want to argue that 2017 had a better group because "Matthews had better recent seasons" in 2017 than any WR on our roster now. OK, as far as "recent seasons" of 2015 and 2016, Fair. He had a 997 and an 804 yd season in 2015 and 2016 with Sam Bradford/Marc Sanchez and then rookie Carson Wentz throwing to him, and he was their best WR (though far from their only quality target - they had Ertz) There's a valid point about needing more than one quality target that you skate by, but let it go for now... You then turn around and focus, not on recent seasons, but on "pedigree". What about "recent seasons"? They don't matter now when "pedigree" serves your point? In the year I mentioned (2010), Evans recent season was 16 games, 44 receptions, 612 yds and that's ~ the level he achieved in 2010 as well. If we're gonna extoll "pedigree", then let's talk about Valdez-Scantling's 2020 season where he led the league with 20.9 Y/R and racked up 33 receptions for 690 yds, and Chase Claypool's "pedigree" of 62 receptions, 873 yds in 2020 and 59 receptions for 860 yds in 2021. Impressive! Oh, not so much? Yeah, because "pedigree" doesn't matter. The NFL isn't about "pedigree", it's about "what have you done lately?" -
I'm really starting to love this WR room. We quietly got better
Beck Water replied to JerseyBills's topic in The Stadium Wall
Yeah, that was bad. Charles Clay and Shady McCoy were our leading receivers that year in targets, receptions, and yards. Thompson was our leading WR overall with 430 yds, despite only suiting up for 11 Bills games Of course, our offensive plan going into 2017 was apparently "run Shady McCoy until his wheels fall off" #4 for rushing attempts, #6 for yards. -
I'm really starting to love this WR room. We quietly got better
Beck Water replied to JerseyBills's topic in The Stadium Wall
When I was thinking "no way is this the worst group", I was thinking more going into 2010 with Stevie Johnson, Lee Evans, Roscoe Parrish, and Donald Jones. Yeah, Johnson had a great season - 82 receptions for 1073 yds - but his previous best season was 10 receptions for 102 yds. Prior to the season it was like, "Lee Evans and who?" Parrish was like, 5 years of "meh". The Goonies, as they called themselves. Pretty sure if I thought about it a minute I could come up with a few more examples. 2018 we actually had a 2nd rounder in his 2nd year in Zay Jones, who had shown flashes as well as drops, and a former 1st rounder in Benjamin who had been playing hurt the previous season (knee) and we hoped would show out in his 5th year in search of a big contract -
I'm really starting to love this WR room. We quietly got better
Beck Water replied to JerseyBills's topic in The Stadium Wall
It's a step down, but the weakest WR group "on paper" in the last 40 years? Nah Not even close. C'mon man. This. Curtis Samuel is a proven, dependable NFL-quality receiving option. He's not peak Stefon Diggs, and a person should be able to acknowledge this without having it twisted as "Samuel sucks". -
Not arguing anything Some people do consider "holding them to a fieldgoal" to be a form defensive stop. We've all heard Josh Allen after a tough loss attribute it to "they held us to FG. we need to score TD". You might consider a hobby?
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I'm really starting to love this WR room. We quietly got better
Beck Water replied to JerseyBills's topic in The Stadium Wall
I think you kind of left off "having a starting QB with a sprained throwing shoulder that kept getting re-aggravated". Josh commented the last couple games he felt like he was throwing pretty well again. But methinks there's a reason Brady kind of put the passing game on "standby" for the Cowboys and Chargers games. -
For me it's WR. I feel if there's one position group where McDermott and company can identify talent and develop talent and use the players they have to their best potential, it's at defensive back. People forget that the closest the Bills have gotten to the Super Bowl was 2020. And in 2020, the Bills had the #2 offense (by 8 freakin' points) and the #16 defense. On the other hand, in 2019 we had the #2 defense in the league and the #23 offense. We need that top offense, and I don't believe we'll have it without quality WR play. Which, I'm not sure we the hosses to produce
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And yet, if your team holds the opponent to a FG, while they score a TD, over the course of a game, they win
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I don't think the latter is necessarily that, at all. I doubt Jessica published her Player's Tribune piece without running it by the family. Thing is, Laura has business executive experience and is available NOW while Jessica is still able to play tennis at a high level. In the dynamics of "blended families", it's not uncommon for the kids of their first family to keep their distance from the 2nd wife, and perhaps not want to be involved in a business the 2nd wife is leading. But, with the 2nd wife out of the picture, Laura may have expressed interest and willingness.
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Just for clarity, what does defensive stop mean to you? Punt or turnover? What about FG?
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I'm really starting to love this WR room. We quietly got better
Beck Water replied to JerseyBills's topic in The Stadium Wall
I think the Bills would be foolish for that. Look, no one can doubt Claypool's talent, but teams have literally thrown him off the bus the last two seasons. Pittsburgh after 8 games in 2022, and Chicago after 3 games in 2023. Literally, Chicago deactivated the guy they'd just traded a 2nd round pick for the previous season, then told him to stay the ***** home and out of their facility. That's last season. Then, he missed a couple games for Miami due to injury, and played mostly on special teams. OK, great, he's coming in hot at the Bills OTAs and saying/doing all the right things. But 1) is he a guy you can trust to stay positive and high-energy and team-focused mid-season if the team loses 3 out of 4 or 4 out of 6 as they did last season? Or will he start yapping to the media and phoning it in on the field? I don't bet, but if I did, I *would* bet the rent you can trust Mack Hollins for the former. I wouldn't bet a limp biscuit on Claypool for that. Nothing against him, but he's demonstrated some bad team habits x2 and needs to show us more than a good pair of preseason hands. -
I wasn't even thinking specifically of protection, but of whether at >40 yrs old Rodgers can get through a season without, for example, soft tissue injuries that supposedly increase in frequency with age