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Over/under on how many Catan Expansion Packs get mailed to Dawson Knox c/o Bills at St John Fisher? Interesting strategy by Josh Allen. For those who don't know: https://www.catan.com/understand-catan/how-do-i-learn-catan

That would kind of reinforce that we're looking at Rapp and a rotation of Hamlin, Edwards, Bishop as our safeties Now this is interesting. Wasn't it "Johnson" with the 1st teamers initially?

I mostly choose to ignore you. If that's living with my head in the sand, I'm OK with that. I just wanted to clarify what you were talking about. Myself, I think the blow-up happened sometime during the 2022 season and the rest was just symptoms or attempts at repair, but that's just me. By training camp last year, the strong narrative was "nothing to see here, All Good!"

OK, I'm calling the question on you. Let's leave out the 90% and just Do You. Here is the current roster. Predict the 53 man roster. Go. To put a little spice in the mix, I will donate $10 to Oishei Children's Hospital for every cut you predict incorrectly. According to you, I only have about $30 at risk. Personally, at this point, I don't believe the Bills coaches and FO can predict 50 out of the 53 man roster. I would say about 39-40 are locks, and the last 13-14 there is still genuine competition

Yeah some quotes from the story: First of all, I doubt anyone criticized Allen for "not acting more enobled" Enobled? Really? What's he supposed to do, demand that the players kneel and swear fealty? Tell them to sit below the salt? Tithe part of their salary to him? "Implored" wasn't the only poor choice of words Recognizing that he's viewed differently by players, sure, and that this gives him more authority in their eyes to say "YOU! SHUT UP! Shut up and catch the ball!", sure. Asking him to perhaps be less of a people pleaser, sure. But "not acting more ennobled"? That's just a weird choice of language. Second, since Allen has played at a very high level for 3 years without an "executive demeanor", why would lacking one cause him to have "rutty play" in 2023? And what the heck is "rutty play"? Graham's article makes no sense. It also, in mourning all the departed leadership in the form of captaincy, Tim Graham does not make note of the fact that two of the remaining players, Dion Dawkins and Reid Ferguson, were captains for the Bills in 2019 and 2020, back when the Bills had 6 or 7 captains and not 8 or 9. That's probably one reason why Dawkins is quoted as saying Long winded way to say @syhuang I agree, not good journalism.

So the "blow up" was him missing the first day, having a meeting with McDermott and others, and either leaving or being told to leave, the building?

Education please: what training camp blow-up was this? I remember Diggs missing the first day of mandatory minicampOTAs and McDermott saying he's very concerned. I don't remember a training camp blow up, or any on-field blow up, at all.

You first, Buddy. I'm not the one here pronouncing "Milano is obviously struggling. Not pushing off on injured leg. Coming back from very serious injury. He may never be the same". We all know a tibial plateau fracture (if that's what Milano had) is a serious injury. Since you're the one making a physical evaluation and stating an opinion and one possible outcome (while implying it's more probable with your "take off your rose colored glasses schtick), seems to me you should state the credentials behind this opinion of yours. I provided a link to an assessment by Kyle Trimble, a PhD physical therapist, whose take is decidedly more positive We also know that the sports medicine physicians and therapists treating him believe he can come back. He hasn't played football in ~10 months, if the posited injury is the correct one he likely spent considerable time non-weight-bearing on his R leg, and he had to ramp up his strengthening gradually. Having him out there at the start of camp is fantastic, and this is not a Von Miller situation where he's talking about being ready for the start of the season but we don't see him out there. We see him out there and he looks great at times and at other times he shows there is still progress to be made, as expected for a guy coming back from injury at the start of training camp.

Sir, what are your medical credentials if we may ask? For those interested, PT Dr Kyle Trimble put together a bunch of clips and his analysis: https://bangedupbills.com/2024/07/27/buffalo-bills-training-camp-injury-review-week-1-2/ He assesses a couple other injuries as well.

Dear Iron Maiden Bills > Araiza Curse > Milano's Milano, Your posting quality is consistent across name changes

last season, the injury was his throwing shoulder 2023 was the torn UCL in his throwing elbow

That's not the kind of guy Allen is, to either of those suggestions

MVS has a track record of coming through in the big games Claypool has a track record of being a locker room cancer on two different teams

Nit, but blood is never going to flow out of any body part via an artery. At least not while there's a beating heart moving it along.

from yesterday, but deserves to be seen: Bobby Babich pre camp: The pretty clear implication there is we may not see Matt Milano being Matt Milano right out of the gate at the start of the season

I think that's a reasonable take. I could point out a few more incidents, but Why? The guy's gone now. Another couple takes, where you ask "why would he say that if there wasn't someone else behaving differently?" -last year OTAs, Allen kept talking about Sherfield and saying "He does whatever is asked of him. He never complains." He said that repeatedly thru minicamp and OTAs. There's possibly a bit of unsaid there as in "in contrast to ......who does complain when certain things are asked of him" https://www.buffalobills.com/video/josh-allen-acting-chops-chemistry-with-the-offense-the-alpha-dog-wrs -In this Bills interview, 10:36 in, Allen and the interview duo are talking about TE and specifically Dalton Kincaid. He talks about his catch radius, his athleticism. But he emphasizes "he does things the right way" He also mentions Khalil Shakir "I love talking about how they play the game". Then he mentions Kincaid's extra-effort blocking which enabled a couple TDs including Josh vs. Pittsburgh in the playoff "he plays the game the right way, and it's so refreshing" Again, there's possiby a bit of unsaid there "as opposed to..... (who was maybe not refreshing in some aspects) I think it's notable that the two players who spoke out for Diggs publicly about him being a good teammate, Rasul Douglas and Dion Dawkins, are not offensive skill players who were depending on Diggs to run clearing routes or block for them downfield at times, and who weren't in skill position meeting rooms with Diggs week in and week out.

Diggs was targeted 10 times during the Bengals playoff loss. He had 4 receptions. Someone here (I forget who) had some inside info that towards the end of the season but well before the Bengals game, Diggs and Allen were "on the outs", that Diggs would go after Allen in the locker room for perceived mistakes or miscues (not targeting him when he felt he was open, not throwing where he expected the ball to be thrown, etc) to the point where others were uncomfortable, and that by the end of the season Diggs and Allen were barely talking to each other. The Bengals game didn't have the look of a new development

Yep. I've reached the point with Von Miller where I'm at "I'm from Missouri, you have to Show Me"

So playing a lot of 21 personnel as well as 12?

Is this a blog or a podcast? Anyone got a link to the actual recap? If Van Pran Granger is C with the 3's almost certainly no play with Allen.

I expect to see some different OL combinations, partly because Kromer likes guys to try playing different spots. Mostly because someone will inevitably get a little dinged up and TC is not the time for your starters to gut it out.

Similar things were said about Poyer and Hyde when Buffalo signed them. Poyer had played 48 games for 2 teams and started 10 of them Hyde had played 63 games for GB and started 33 of them It's true that Rapp had little interest after 2022 with the Rams (which is why the Bills signed him for 1 year, just a bit over vet minimum) I believe Rapp had interest as a starter after last season - I don't think the Bills offered him 3 years, $10.6M with $4.8 guaranteed because he had no other teams interested and Beane had his "Stupid" hat on. And he WAS signed for more than vet minimum in 2023, which implies he did have some interest. Same with Edmunds - Bills didn't offer him $2.8M with $1.6 guaranteed at signing because he had "zero interest" and Beane just loves to toss $$ around In any event, when a player has shown they can start in the league for multiple years, I stand by my take that it's peculiar to label them "not NFL caliber starter". They have proven they can play in the league and start. Whether they're good starters, or starters where teams want an upgrade, is another question.

What is your definition of NFL caliber starter? Edwards started the last 5 games of the season and all 4 playoff games for the Chiefs. Was playing 30-50% of the defensive snaps before that. He also started 12 of the 13 games he played in for Tampa in 2022 Rapp started 48 out of 57 games for the Rams, including playing 95 and 96% of the snaps in 2020-2021. Rapp also played 100% of the snaps for the Bills in 4 games last season, 3 of them wins against MIA, DAL, and LAC then a 2 pt loss against DEN. A few games after the JAX game where we lost Milano, what evolved is that Rapp was regularly subbing in for Poyer at safety, while Dodson went out and we It seems peculiar to me to proclaim 2 guys aren't "NFL calibre starters at the position" when in fact they have started, and for very good, in fact championship winning, teams. You and I might believe (with reason) that they're a big step down from what Poyer and Hyde were in their prime, but that's true of most NFL-caliber safeties in the league; Dr Poyer and Mr Hyde together were a whole far more than the sum of the parts. More power to you, too for recovering back to near normal.