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    How in the hell did Nathaniel Hackett become an NFL head coach?

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    2 minutes ago, buffalostu2 said:

    I live in Denver and laughed at the hire and told them what was coming.   I had no idea it would be quite this bad, but man is it funny to watch such a blessed franchise with the greatest home field advantage in sports, standing in a pile of their own stool.  🤣 

     

    I mean, to his credit, he seems to have chosen a competent or even good DC, right?  And people who break down film and know something like Kurt Warner have pointed out that the plays are there, Wilson isn't making the right choices.

     

    Is he maybe getting a bad rap for personnel choices where the FO tried to "buy greatness" by trading for Wilson then throwing big money at him and he turns out to be massively un-aware and un-coachable?

    How in the hell did Nathaniel Hackett become an NFL head coach?

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    26 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

    This dude could get fired after this week if he loses to the Jags.  The new ownership group didn't hire him. He looks like he is WAY over his head and has no idea how to right the ship.

     

    Some people don't have the proper skills to be a HC.  He clearly doesn't.  Sometimes it takes a while to figure out if a coach actually does have it, but you can usually tell right away when a coach doesn't.  And he doesn't.

     

    I kind of disagree with that last.

     

    There's a school of thought for coaches, that you hire a competent guy who has mad people skills, is self-aware and capable of improvement/driven to win, support him properly with a good FO, and leave him alone while he figures it out.  That's pretty much been the Steelers ownership choice with Noll, Cowher, Tomlin etc and it's served them pretty well.

     

    A lot of the rest of the league, including the Bills for 17 long years, have followed a pattern of 3 or 4 and "OUT!" for HC.  I think that's pretty well where the Broncos have been since 2008.  We've even had folks here (they know who they are) who clamor for McDermott's head saying that he's got an established pattern of coaching mistakes so we should kick him to the curb and find someone better.

    How in the hell did Nathaniel Hackett become an NFL head coach?

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    4 minutes ago, eball said:

    Seriously.  The ONLY answer is nepotism and the old white boy network.  He has done literally nothing in his NFL coaching career to suggest he was prepared or competent to be an NFL head coach, and that is being displayed for all to see.

     

    S-h-i-t like this is why Brian Flores' lawsuit is a legitimate concern for the NFL.

     

    Disgusting.

     

    He did have the best scoring offense in 2020, and GB was 13-3 during his 3 seasons as OC there

    Now they also had a sound defense and Aaron Rodgers

     

    But I guess the idea was if they landed a different top QB it would work the same?

     

    I'm not saying that Hackett was the best choice for the Denver job but I'm not sure how you get the "nepotism" or the "old white boy network" out of this.

     

    The trend for several years in the NFL has been to hire guys associated with a hot offense (college or pro as HC) and in particular, who only have 1-2 years as OC or even 0 years as OC.

     

    Kliff Kingsbury    hot college coach from Texas Tech

    Arthur Smith       2 years as hot OC for Tennessee Titans

    Matt Rhule          hot college coach for Baylor and Temple

    Zac Taylor           QB and WR coach for LA Rams 2017-2018 (I didn't think this would work but it took them to the 2021 Superbowl.....)

    Kevin Stefanski   almost 2 years as hot OC for Minn. Vikings

    Matt LaFleur        1 year as Rams OC, 1 year as Titans OC

    Mike McDaniel     1 year as SF 49ers OC

    Kevin OConnell    2 years as LA Rams OC

     

    That's  1/4 of the head coaches in the NFL fitting that "little or no experience as an NFL offensive coordinator"

     

    TBT I think the nepotism/cronyism part more comes in with hiring retreads like Mike McCarthy, Doug Pederson, Ron Rivera.

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    Patriots may have a QB

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    Jake Kumerow high ankle sprain

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    21 minutes ago, Codyny13 said:

    Bryant just signed a 1 year deal last week so he’s no longer on the practice squad. I’m not sure what the ramifications would be, capwise or what, but it’d be silly to sign the guy to an extension to release him the next week.

     

    Au contraire, that used to be the standard way to elevate guys from the PS before Covid and the rule that allowed teams to elevate 2 players to a game-day 55 man roster and put them directly on the PS afterwards.

     

    If they're on your team, you sign 'em to the active roster (1 year contract with no signing bonus) then cut them afterwards.  The Bills have done this several times this season when they needed to pull more injury replacements off the PS than the 2 allowed direct elevations/returns allow.

     

    The drawback is if they have less than 4 accrued seasons, they pass through waivers and any team can claim them.  Bryant has been in the league since 2016 and has started 10 games over the last 4 seasons, but I don't think he counts as having "accrued" a season.

     

    3 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:

    Makes sense to stay close to the stadium in case of bad weather. I know Dion owns a house in Hamburg.  I guess JP Losman was the last Bills player to actually live in Buffalo.

     

    I think some of the Bills players have lofts downtown.  I know Dawson Knox used to live in a loft apartment in Buffalo and I think so did Matt Milano.  Someone said Knox bought a house this season though.

     

     

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    9 minutes ago, pocoboy said:

    Volin had tweeted about Jones' attitude and got called to the Principal's office. I'm sure they wanted that out, and I'm sure they then wanted to wallpaper it because they want to save the 1st round pick

     

    Could you help a guy out and translate this?

     

    Who is Volin?

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    Jake Kumerow high ankle sprain

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    Posted · Edited by Beck Water

    46 minutes ago, hemma said:

    Anyone know who replaced him on Special Teams?  

    Tough to spot.

     

    I actually do not know and would like to.  

     

    47 minutes ago, strive_for_five_guy said:

    Kumerow’s return will send Hodgins back to PS?

     

    No, we had an open roster spot at WR due to IR'ing Crowder.  It might mean Hodgins being made inactive on game days.

     

    The question is more, who we will move to make space for Tre White.

    MNF: Chicago Bears at NE Patriots - with Manningcast!

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    29 minutes ago, Motorin' said:

    Belechick is on WEEI getting grilled right now... It's glorious...

     

    I just looked at his postgame presser, and man the Patriots press corps are a bunch of tame housepets

     

    Belichick gives them the most bull####, stonewalling answers and they seldom follow up; they give him either-or questions which make it easy for him to give nondescript replies that could apply to either option;  when they do follow up it's only once and they accept the same non-answer.

     

    That WEEI grillin' got a link or can you hit a few highlights?

     

     

    Week 8: SNF Packers at Bills (-10.5) 10/30 8:20pm

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    17 hours ago, nosejob said:

    I believe I just heard on the radio minutes ago that the Packers have the no.1 pass defense?

     

    I was trying to figure this out.

    They give up the fewest passing yards, but they also give up 7 YPP, which puts them 14th.  They're 16th in sacks, 3rd in pressure percentage.

     

    They have a poor rush defense, #26 in Yds and #25 in YPA.  They've also played Vikes, Bears, Patriots, Giants, Jets, Commanders - all teams I would characterize as having a stronger rush game than passing game.

     

    So I think what's going on is they do get pressure on QB and the teams they've played have had more success running, so they  go with what works.

     

    But anything McDermott and the coaches can use to get our guys revved up for the game and not taking them lightly - in case watching the Bears take a "mercy knee" on the Pats didn't do it.

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    Jake Kumerow high ankle sprain

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    57 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

    Unofficial Kumerow Update:

     

    Have a friend that lives down the street from him and he said he has seen him out jogging with his dog the last few days without any wrap or brace on his ankle. Said he appears healthy.

     

    What this means in terms of him playing this week or next week is still up in the air obviously. Guess we will see what happens on the injury designation tomorrow.

     

    I'm sure he is chomping at the bit to play against his former team.

     

    4-6 weeks said to be pretty typical for a high ankle sprain and this week will be 5 weeks so fits

    Also it's the 4th game since he went out, and Bills are pretty good about putting guys on IR if they're going to miss 4 games anyway

    Patriots may have a QB

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    38 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

    IMHO Mad Mac is Alex Smith/Chad Pennington(before the shoulder injury).

     

    Game manager who is limited with what they can do and the throws they can make but a player you can win regular season games with and make the playoffs only to get booted in the first round once the competition becomes tougher.

     

    Maybe Alex Smith during his first years in the league I guess

     

    Alex Smith in the later years of his career, Mac Jones isn't fit to carry his jockstrap

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    Patriots may have a QB

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    Posted · Edited by Beck Water

    25 minutes ago, Shake_My_Head said:

    Well, the Pats might have a kicker controversy on their hands as well.    Mac seemed to have pretty good form last night.   

     

     

     

    That play was Soooooooo Bad.  I hope he gets fined for it. 

     

    I loved it when Brisker picked him.  I loved it even more when Manning called him out for it on the national broadcast.

     

     

    2 minutes ago, KDIGGZ said:

    I was excited to wake up today to doom and gloom but all of my Pats fan friends are saying this was just 1 bad game, Pats still have the best coach in football (lol), and are a 10 win/playoff team (lolol). They said they will have a great game plan for the Bills cooked up and are expecting to split with us and if so the division is still in play 😅

     

    I bet you going into it, they were all saying "Bears gonna be a tough out, much harder than the Bills" 🤪🤪🤪

     

    Just enjoy.  Time will tell.

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    8 hours ago, stevewin said:

    To be honest I thought voice-wise that was the most clear and talkative I've ever heard him after a loss - usually just mostly mono-syllable grunts and mumbles like sling blade.  He would have been better off in this case being unintelligable - than to actually be able to hear the foolish nonsense spewing from his cheating pie hole.  What an epic a-hole

     

    Cheating Unsportsmanlike Pie Hole

     

    That Mac Jones foot to the Family Jewels of the Bears safety #9 reminded me of a couple incidents with Brady

     

    You gotta know now their QB are coached to do that when they slide

     

    So sweet when #9 picked him a couple plays later, only flaw was Bears couldn't convert that drive into points but I do think it fired them up

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    MNF: Chicago Bears at NE Patriots - with Manningcast!

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    https://patriotswire.usatoday.com/2022/10/24/camera-catches-bailey-zappe-singing-stacy-mom-sidelines/

     

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    Life is good for New England Patriots rookie quarterback Bailey Zappe.

    He’s back on the field after Mac Jones was benched on Monday night against the Chicago Bears, and Gillette Stadium was playing Fountains of Wayne’s hit classic song “Stacy’s Mom.”

     

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    Zappe, who led the Patriots on back-to-back touchdown drives to overcome a 10-point deficit before halftime, could be seen on camera singing the song while sitting on the sidelines.

    Stacy’s mom might have it going on, but no one has it going on quite like Zappe, who went 5-of-6 passing for 109 yards and one touchdown in the first half of the game.

     

    Freezing Cold Take

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    9 minutes ago, Chaos said:

    If Jones struggles, does Bill pull the plug and put in Zappe?

     

    Oh, Gosh, I hope so!  Nothing better than yo-yo'ing your young QB for building their own confidence and the team's confidence in them

     

    4 weeks is kind of minimal for what was reportedly a significant high ankle sprain

    21 minutes ago, LOVEMESOMEBILLS said:

     

     Justin Fields will need to play a lot better than he shown this year. He has the least amount of passing yards of any QB who has not missed games. Joe Flacco has more yards and he only played in 3 games.😂

     

     

    Josh Allen was 32 in YPG his rookie season.

     

    It's not Field's Y/G or lack thereof that bothers me, he just doesn't seem to enjoy playing football.  It's painful to watch him get tackled or hit.

    MNF: Chicago Bears at NE Patriots - with Manningcast!

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    Posted · Edited by Beck Water

    6 minutes ago, Warcodered said:

     

    The Patriots are still an awful team, but they're well coached enough to beat up on other terrible teams.

     

    Yeah, it's interesting.  I thought Matt Eberflus was an absolute Stud as a defensive coordinator, but he seems to be a bit of a dud so far as a HC.  Yeah, Fields isn't playing well, but the team just seems sloppy and poorly coached on both sides of the ball.

     

    On the other hand, Daboll (to me) was a bit of a roller-coaster ride as OC, but he seems to be All That and a Bag of Chips as a HC. 

     

    26 minutes ago, Warcodered said:

    replace some of their players with actual bears.

     

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    3 minutes ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said:

    He’s still only 24 years old and a relatively high pick for a RB. With all the success the Browns have had running it maybe one of the coaches thinks they can resurrect his career? God knows Buffalo’s run blocking leaves a lot to be desired. He could actually be a good fit there as he’s not the kind of player that can create on his own. Sometimes all a player needs is a change of scenery. We’ve seen RBs turn it around numerous times going to new teams. Look at Ahman Green, another 3rd round pick. Averaged like 200 yards rushing his first 2 seasons, gets traded to Cleveland for a 5th, and becomes one of the most dominant players of his era. I don’t think the book is closed on Zack Moss. I just don’t think he’s a good fit for this system. I think he absolutely adds value based on his age and where he was picked. 

     

    That's a fair point, but when you're trading a player who hasn't lived up to his draft position, I think you usually get back a late round draft pick or another player who hasn't lived up to his draft position.

     

    Cody Ford for a 5th rounder would be one example

    Kelvin Sheppard for Jerry Hughes would be another

     

    Kareem Hunt's role has declined in Cleveland, but he came close to 5 y/a last year, and he certainly lived up to his draft position.

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