Beck Water
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5 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said:
He’s a rapper. Either a guy named RMR or westside Gunn from Buffalo but I think it’s the first guy. Has a very unique version of a rascal flatt song.
RMR, I think you nailed it. The middle finger, the mask....
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57 minutes ago, DabillsDaBillsDaBills said:
That's a good catch! I thought he was a generic nurse/doctor, but Turk makes a lot of sense.
Gabe Davis (if that's him) in the ski mask could be a gimp. Maybe even the gimp from Pulp Fiction?
Quessenberry in the khakis/wig could be Steve Irwin (combo costume with the alligator?)
Oh, you absolutely got it. Quessenberry as Steve Irwin and Tommy Sweeney as the Alligator accompanying him 👍
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27 minutes ago, Ta111 said:
His teammates hate him right now. Wouldn’t be surprised if we see scene out of The Replacements where his Oline just lets our Dline right thru.
Where do you get this from?
I mean, I have the opinion that he comes across as an arrogant weaseling twatwaddle in some interviews, but who a guy is in interviews and who he is in person and in the locker room, Not The Same Thing. The GB OL are professionals, they probably think he's a great guy but even if they don't, you don't have to like a guy to recognize he's a great QB and go hard for him.
I mean, I don't think Rodgers is insisting they join him in his panchakarma cleanse (which would totally gross me out) or his ayahuaska consumption (if it comes from a plant, it's not a drug, sez Aaron. Cocaine and curare say Hi!)
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1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said:
I saw the same and wondered the same thing.
There was a bobble yesterday as well, did he just catch his foot or was it his knee?
He is wearing some kind of cleats today though where yesterday it was sneakers
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57 minutes ago, Warcodered said:
Getting better on his setup! If he moved the golf bag and the un-hung picture on the floor, that would be OK.
Agreed, who comes up and interrupts a guy's dinner with family? I thought Jordan was super-cool saying he doesn't mind if fans catch him afterwards, I guess I would feel that's still a bit intrusive. Let the guy have his family time with his kid start to finish. the kids must sacrifice a lot too, time when they'd maybe like Daddy at their school for Dad's day but he's gotta be in a DB meeting, or their ballet recital on Saturday but he's gotta be on a plane flying to an away game.
Poyer playing golf with Von Miller for pushups 😂😂
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Just now, GunnerBill said:
Thank you. Lots of places saying conditional when I think they mean compensatory. The Chiefs have a 3rd round comp pick for Bears GM Ryan Poles.
So those picks are at the very end of the 3rd round, behind the comp picks.
Still a good haul for a guy who has missed 12 out of a possible 24 games he could play, including 5 so far this season.
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37 minutes ago, wolfpack78 said:
Conditional 3rd and a 6th
Wow, that's a haul. The Giants have this to say about it:
QuoteEven though Daboll didn’t come out and say it Thursday, it’s pretty clear that Toney’s lack of dependability resulted in new Giants general manager Joe Schoen trading him to the Chiefs.
“We just thought it was for the best, for the team,” Daboll said of the trade before Thursday’s practice. “Wish Kadarius well. I’m not going to get into any of the details. Our decision is for the team and we’re moving on.”
QuoteDaboll spoke to reporters just moments after the trade went down. Daboll and Schoen informed Toney of the trade in person before Thursday’s practice. Daboll declined to say how Toney reacted.
“I’m going to keep that between us,” Daboll said.
NJ press take on that:
QuoteBrian Daboll values dependability.
Kadarius Toney was far from dependable during his time with the Giants.
And so it is that Toney is no longer a member of Daboll’s team.
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2 hours ago, DabillsDaBillsDaBills said:
Dawson Knox is Jackie Moon - Will Ferrell's character in "Semi-Pro"
The guy in the middle back row (who is that?) might be the Big Lebowski.
Pretty sure the guy in the middle back is Greg Van Roten. The guy in the khaki shorts and shirt with the blond wig is David Quessenbery
The baby-face guy next to Josh is Ike Boettger.
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3 hours ago, eball said:
Yep the IG postings were great. What a fun team.
😢 Another Shellfish failure to share with the "Instagram deprived"
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1 hour ago, Wayne Cubed said:
The huge buffalo statues out front though!
You just know drunk fans gonna climb on those things and fall off. Better surround 'em with crash pads, or maybe at least a pond or something.
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3 hours ago, CorkScrewHill said:
Details how Raiders players moved away from caring about these site’s grades when they realized it didn’t align with how their coaches were grading them based on the analytics site not understanding what their actual responsibilities were on a given play.
https://sports.yahoo.com/raiders-focus-coaches-grades-rather-005549328.html
I know this has been debated back and forth (especially given Lewan’s contention that players pay to increase their ratings, but the part about the graders not really understanding the individual’s responsibilities on a given play hit home to me.
That's something some of us here have been saying for years.
PFF touts that 31 of 32 teams (or maybe it's 32 of 32) use their data, but the data that teams use is probably data about tendencies - what formations in different down and distance and game situations, what plays are called from those formations, how often and when a LB drops into coverage or blitzes, that sort of thing that a person given a short training course can actually determine accurately - not their player grades. And those data are probably good, and help teams by allowing them to put manpower into decoding tactics and not into grunt work.
I can't find it, but Eric Wood did an interview (shortly after he retired) talking about how especially on the OL, those grades chap their grits because they're just not accurate. He gave specific examples of a play where Cog blew his assignment, Wood tried to pick it up and whiffed, the coaches knew who screwed up but Cog laughed that Wood would get the blame for his mistake (the Bills won, so they could laugh). Sure enough, Wood was graded poorly by the analytics sites.
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3 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:
I've always known I'm "pop culture challenged" but can anyone educate me as to who they are suppose to be?
The only one I get besides Josh is Sweeney as an Alligator
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2 hours ago, John from Riverside said:
Bond… James Bond
Supposed to be the Great Gatsby with Britt as Daisy
3 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said:IG is your answer. Mostly the players posted them on their IG stories though so they are gone. There were TONS on there Tuesday.
And you didn't pull them and share with your TBD buds? Very disappointed .....
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19 minutes ago, JakeFrommStateFarm said:
Well Ronald Acuna of the Atlanta Braves had an acl tear July 2021.
He missed the start of 2022 season. When he came back midway through the 2022 season, he suffered from pain an swelling in the knee.
He missed lots of games and was hesitant to play.
The Braves training staff told him it was normal to feel pain and swelling as a normal part of the rehab process. He had MRIs but there was no further damage.
I suspect that White is ok but it is entirely possible that White is feeling pain as he is training now and it is unsettling to him.
Sometimes if you feel pain you may feel that you're not ready to go
I should probably STFU but I had quiche for dinner so I'll open my pie hole again
It's pretty common to have pain and swelling during rehab for an ACL. The traditional sports medicine rehab viewpoint is "push through it", it's normal. Civilians are usually told back off, rest and ice, then resume.
Another theory is that pain means something - it may mean that some of the little stabilizing muscles, aren't properly being activated or aren't strong enough and the rehabbing athlete needs to back off, map out what muscles aren't working correctly, and address this (a good PT can do this on exam, but there are now electrical gizmos designed to do this) with focused exercises and stimulation.
Harrison Phillips, who tore his ACL in the 3rd week of September 2019, later admitted he was still struggling with it in early September 2020 (and struggling to perform up to standard). He said that when he would jump and land, pain would shoot through his knee and it wasn't until 2021 that he felt normal and could jump up and down multiple times. Pretty sure Phillips had his surgery in Buffalo with the Bills team doctors.
It's been mentioned by Beane that Tre White had his surgery elsewhere and the Bills doctors and team are having to work with his doctors and rehab team. Tre is undoubtedly feeling pain and experiencing swelling, but I doubt it's "unsettling to him" per se - meaning no offense to baseball players who are fantastic athletes, but football players are accustomed to playing through levels of pain that baseball players typically aren't. There may be a disconnect between the evaluation of the team's trainers and physicians and Tre's trainers and physicians, where the team feels "good to go" and Tre's docs feel "not to our standard yet, need to strengthen this and activate that".
This kind of disconnect or difference in standards/protocols could be one driver of the apparent mixed messages fans are getting.
40 minutes ago, without a drought said:I said that he'd be back when he's healthy, do I get gold star or something?
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It's BBFS (battered Buffalo Bills fan syndrome)
We're afraid to hope lest our hopes, once again, get trompled upon
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Confused players
Fans dissing one player by chanting for another, to the distress of their teammates
Players and coaches possibly not on the same page
Ya Hate to See It
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Oh sheesh, is this the Bears Marcel Dareus trade? They eat $16.4M this year and $8.4M next year in dead cap with this.
He's not putting up the numbers this year that he put up last season, but last season (when he had 18.5 sacks) he was playing with Khalil Mack
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I found this article from Nov 27, 2021, the day after Tre White's injury
https://thebuffalofanatics.com/the-tredavious-white-acl-injury/
It quotes this article:
Shah VM, Andrews JR, Fleisig GS, McMichael CS, Lemak LJ. Return to Play after Anterior Cruciate Ligament Reconstruction in National Football League Athletes. The American Journal of Sports Medicine. 2010; 38(11): 2233-2239.
QuoteAdrian Peterson famously came back in eight months to play after his ACL surgery. However, the average time it takes to return to play in the NFL is 10.8 months (4). With an estimated surgical date of December 16th, White should be back in October or November 2022. Barring an expedited recovery, White is a strong candidate to start next season on the PUP list.
The author, Alex Lucci, is on twitter as @ThighDoctor, and does injury analysis for Buffalo Fanatics (and may actually be a practicing physician as opposed to us opining galoots on a message board, but that's not why I linked it here.
I thought it had an especially clear and lucid explanation of Tre White's injury with clear graphics and stuff.
Of course, it also cites another source that the average RTP time in the NFL is 10.8 months, meaning early-mid November - not as early as we might have hoped, but also not at all out of the ordinary for an NFL player.
But that's not why I posted it, honest, I only posted it for the pictures 😁
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3 hours ago, Mango said:
Ok, I’ll credit Knox with the rampant success of our run game…Did I say "run blocking"? No, you sarcastic little fruit of the Bangaladeshi National Tree, I did not say "run blocking".
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Josh mentioned on Kyle Brandt's Basement Tues that they had a Halloween Party for the team on Monday night.
Josh Allen was the judge, and Mitch Morse won the prize for best costume (Bearded Lady from Greatest Showman - his wife was the Greatest Showman)
Anyone have any costume pics? Only one I've found was of Micah Hyde and his wife Amanda.
He came as Frankenstein, complete with bolts sticking out of his neck!!!!!
Josh as the Great Gadsby and Britt as Daisy.
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3 hours ago, BillyBilliams said:
Sounds reasonable. However, he was injured Thanksgiving last year. It's been 11 months. He's been longer than what this suggests.
? He had surgery Dec 16th
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6 hours ago, ArtVandalay said:
That's 100% what happened, even the commentators discussed it afterwards analyzing the play discussing he thought Diggs was there and let it go.
Here's the pick and Knox pulling back.
That is not what the commentators in that clip suggested. They said Josh Allen was inaccurate with his throw
In the endzone view you can see Heyward tip it. He jumps up with his arms extended and the trajectory of the ball changes after it passes his hand
It would have been nice if Knox could have adjusted and made the catch but in no way is "Just last week he (Knox) pulled him arms back and gave the defense an INT instead of just catching the ball" an accurate description of that play. SMH.
2 hours ago, Mango said:A lot of talk of "he is really good, but the play caller, play, QB, etc". But isn't that sort of the point of the people arguing against the Knox contract? Lets say Knox is a top 5 TE. We don' utilize him as a top 5 TE, so why allocated that kind of cash to a really good player in a role that we don't focus on?
On the Bills of 10 years ago we would certainly bicker about how to get Knox involved. But right now the offense is humming at an elite level, so why change the offense just to get more value out of your contract?I like Knox. I am hoping he lives up to his valuation. Given the year he has had I am trying not to be too critical, but I also understand other frustrations. I think his valuation will end up being a lot more fair as others renew. Right now Knox (15/148 yards/1 TD) is slightly less productive than McKenzie (17/162 yards/ 3 TD) and slightly more productive than Shakir (6/112 yards/ 1 TD) in the passing game. Knox (273) as taken 101 more snaps than McKenzie (172) and 179 more than Shakir (94)
But here's the thing. By implication, you're equating Knox productivity with receptions/receiving yards/TDs.
Except that he is NOT a TE who primarily runs a route on every play. He has become one of the best blocking TE in the league as well. So any reasonable valuation has to take that into account.
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12 minutes ago, BillyBilliams said:
Mid December is a long time to wait for an ACL surgery. I actually didn't know that. I could have sworn it was within the first few days of Dec. That means he took 10.5 months. Which then is on track like you mentioned.
Tre' White injured his ACL on 11/25 and had surgery 12/16. That's 3 weeks later.
It seems to be SOP these days to wait a period of time post-injury to perform surgery. The idea seems to be to allow inflammation and swelling to subside, and even to do pre-operative PT. 2 weeks seems to be a common period of time, but the time is driven by how long it takes for the individual patient to reach the individual surgeon's desired end-point for performing surgery.
So I don't think 3 weeks is unusual.
With the Eagles and Chiefs making roster moves, are the Bills already good enough to stand pat?
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I don't think there are glaring weaknesses at present. The problem is always will something arise later on in the season, when we can't address it by trade.
I think there are places we could improve. It was notable to me at the Halloween party, Ike Boettger was still using a crutch. OL would be my top ask.