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Oh, now, lookie here https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/patrick-mahomes-fined-14-069-for-violent-gesture I had no idea this was a Thing the league was cracking down on. Valid points (Make that Chiefs fans across MO) I know you're a history guy; you may know this, but a lot of people don't realize that the "Trail of Tears" wasn't a single trail but a number of routes. But yeah, the major route and two others of ~5 went through MO and the damned war chant IS disgraceful. I think the suspended Kermit-in-a-Mahomes-jersey bothers some Chiefs fans (keep in mind I live surrounded by Chiefs fans now, the Turn-Coats) because they see it as specific and personally low-class vs. some of the Chiefs traditions that are low-class but not specific or personal IYKWIM?

I hope they're looking at Purdy's neck. I had a lot of pain in my shoulder at one point, and it turned out to be my neck. I mean, it was my shoulder too (I needed to strengthen a bunch of small supporting muscles) but the genesis of the pain was in my neck. Injection in my neck calmed things down to the point where I could do the shoulder exercises.

Yours is certainly a defendable POV. I think Jones has the potential to be better than Mayfield - better physical tools, better ability to run. But I think Jones needs the right pieces around him and the right coach more than Mayfield does.

Living in St Louis, I got the inside scoop on the Bradford story. And Bradford kind of gets a bad rap. TL;DR inept coaching and untimely injuries derailed him. Yeah, he was the last Super-highly paid rookie who hadn't proven his NFL worth. But you can't blame him for that, it was the system at the time, and I truly believe Bradford was one reason teams pressed for that change. OK, Bradford year 1. Looked pretty decent under Steve Spagnuolo with Pat Shurmur as his OC. Keep in mind as HC, Shurmur also made Daniel Jones look pretty decent his rookie year. Too many INTs, but that's not uncommon for a rookie QB. Keep in mind the Rams were a terrible, no good, very bad team in 2009 (1-15) and with Bradford, they were actually a final game loss away from the playoffs! Bradford year 2. Spagnuolo loses Pat Shurmur to be HC of the Cleveland Browns and hires.......Josh McDaniel, who was just booted out as HC of Denver. It was horrible. McDaniel of course installed his super-complex and totally different terminology E-P offense. Now I grant that the Rams were still fundamentally a bad team who over-performed the previous season, but Bradford looked inept, totally inept. But he looked promising his rookie season! Was it Bradford, or was it McDaniel? Bradford also missed 6 games with injuries and ended on IR. Bradford year 3. Jeff Fisher takes over as HC, and hires Brian Schottenheimer as OC. Keep in mind that Schottenheimer was a guy who made Sanchez look OK. So once again, Bradford looks promising. He looks like he can play in the NFL. He delivers enough QB performance that a team could win with him. But at this point, the guy has had 3 different offensive systems and 3 different OCs in 3 years. Bradford year 4. 2nd year with Schottenheimer. Bradford finally looks like he might live up to his billing and be what the Rams hoped. First 7 games, he's hitting 70% completion at times, he's thrown 14 TD to 3 INTs - really looks good. Then, he tears his ACL and goes on IR. Bradford year 5. Lost season. Bradford re-tears same ACL in preseason game, and he's Done with the Rams. So yeah, the Rams didn't get their money's worth out of Bradford, but IMO it was largely a self-inflicted wound combined with some bad injury luck. With the Eagles, they re-united Bradford with Pat Shurmur and he played pretty well once he flaked the rust off. But, they fell in love with Carson Wentz and kicked Bradford to the curb, so he asked to be traded. With the Vikes, again with Shurmur, Bradford played well until his knee gave out on him and Keenum took over. I don't remember a TSW campaign? But I do remember a game where Daboll was seen SCREAMING at Josh on the sideline after an interception Reportedly Allen had a deep conversation with Beane and McDermott after that game, where he made promises to them to change his ways (this is by Allen's account). But the very next week, Daboll moved to the booth and never moved down, so there may have been some "what can we do to support you better?" discussion on their side as well. With Dorsey, the players had a campaign to put him in the booth, and after the Miami loss we saw why.

True but irrelevant to the point I was addressing

I think Russ Wilson in Denver should get honorable mention, at least, or maybe runner-up And how about Aaron Rodgers in NY?

Correct idea, but Douglas was playing with a bum ankle, Benford was not playing (Dane Jackson played 100% of the snaps), and Dodson was playing next to AJ Klein with a wrecked shoulder in a brace. Gabe Davis was also out.

https://bleedinblue.com/posts/st-louis-blues-play-gloria-01j08qgq5hyy 16-19-4 pre-Gloria 29-9-5 with Gloria No worries, it wouldn't work for the Marine Mammals. The song has to find the players and they have to believe in it.

They did NOT see that coming

May I gently and respectfully suggest that, unless you naturally spend your day surfing around the internet, you may not have reasonable data about whether or not there's an uproar? Links shared to make the point that while folks have the right to be all *shrug* "meh" about it, it is legitimately a source of upset and anger for some people. These are the result of a brief Google search on 2 terms. So no, "the uproar" is not strongest here, and I don't think we can legit judge just how few or many people are really upset about it. https://athlonsports.com/nfl/kansas-city-chiefs/patrick-mahomes-brittany-mahomes-want-answers-alarming-bills-incident https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-14102243/taylor-swift-brittany-mahomes-consoled-kermit-frog.html https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/photo-buffalo-bills-fans-crossed-the-line-with-their-disgusting-use-of-patrick-mahomes-kermit-the-frog-doll-before-game-vs-chiefs/ar-AA1ufyh0?apiversion=v2&noservercache=1&domshim=1&renderwebcomponents=1&wcseo=1&batchservertelemetry=1&noservertelemetry=1 https://www.tmz.com/2024/11/17/bills-fans-hang-kermit-puppet-mahomes-jersey-chiefs-game/ https://www.theroot.com/black-twitter-responds-to-buffalo-bills-fans-lynching-a-1851701631

Yeah, and I've seen videos of QBs being hit by our linebackers, too

I think that's a fair point. But it's also a fair point that a team (and a GM's) ultimate success or failure depends not only on whether they land that elusive "Franchise Guy", but whether they are successful at putting a team around him, and especially after he 'gets paid".

Now now. How is Kermit Mahomes being run over by a Buffalo THAT different than Patrick Mahomes being run over by Ed Oliver, DaQuan Jones, Greg Rousseau (x2), Dorian Williams, Terrel Bernard (x2), and Von Miller? A Bison has 4 legs, that's 16 legs. A plains bison weighs about 1600 lbs, those 6 guys together list at 1577. Just saying, Mahomes survived 'em

I can't even imagine what Jenna would have to say.

It means he was asked to position himself as they anticipate the opponent's safety will in different coverage looks and shift around pre-snap, so that the starting QB practices diagnosing the coverage and what his throw should be, based on the position of the safety. Otherwise the scout team may lack the personnel to position a safety and an inexperienced QB may fail to build in observing the safety when he's deciding where to go with the ball. There was a time in 2019 when there were clips of Josh taking handoffs in practice and asking the coach "is there a safety over there?". I think it was after that Davis Webb volunteered to play scout team safety (except he ran and made contact) Good point that if the team claims him, they claim the injury guarantee. I hadn't thought of that. But he still may not get the immediate opportunity to pick "a good team". SF would actually be a good landing spot. Giving some benefit of the doubt, I think the Giants were just asking him to help the team prepare. I don't think they thought about how it would look to NFL fans or that Jones would likely feel some way about it.

He may not have that chance immediately - Mayfield had to Carolina then pay a visit to the Rams before he got a chance at Tampa Darnold also had to Carolina then pay a visit to SFO before he got a chance in Minn Geno Smith had to Giants and Charger then sit on the bench for 2 years in Seattle before he got his 2nd chance. If a team claims Jones off waivers, he's pretty much gotta go And sometimes it doesn't seem to work - see Trubisky, Mitch - he seems to be irrevocably broken

I hate to be "that guy", but....source? Edit: n.mind https://www.giants.com/news/statement-from-giants-president-john-mara-on-daniel-jones

It's my understanding after the trade deadline is passed, every player must go through waivers. If I'm wrong, I feel very confident that someone will correct me.

According to multiple news articles, it is. Sources not given https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/news/daniel-jones-safety-giants-benched-qb-scout-team/82fdf92e5c5a3457512a5ad3 It should be noted that Davis Webb used to play scout team safety to help the Bills QB prepare for a game, and his willingness to help the team "however" was one of the things noted as one of the traits that made him so valuable to the Bills.

That would actually be Sweet. Unlikely, but Sweet.

He had 2 years of QB play that were adequate for an otherwise sound team to win with - his rookie season 2019 under Pat Shurmur/Mike Shula and 2022 under Daboll/Mike Kafka - but supported by a strong run game and before Daboll's ego swelled to a size sufficient to fill a small auditorium at STP with room left over for 2 but not 3 standard helium balloons to maintain full inflation. I say this based on a thing I did back in 2016 where I looked at what aspects of QB play were correlated with winning - completion %, TD/INT ratio, etc. Passing Y/G overall weren't, but there was a floor of passing yards that improved the correlation. And no, I don't know that's what happened to Daboll's ego but there are stories

I did NOT see this coming. They take on $47M of dead cap for him.

Funny how none of the analysts, including those who have been breaking down tape for decades like Cosell or have played QB in the NFL like Simms or Orlovsky, seem to think the defense "confused" Allen. Allen and Brady both said he had a check to a zone beater play; someone here pointed out Allen shifted the protections before the play, indicating he recognized the original called play wouldn't work with the D he saw, and made the decision to run. Allen could also have converted the 1st down and slid. Just how do you define "reality"? The reality is that this is the first game this season when Allen has run the ball 12 times. In fact, to this point in the season, Allen's rushes per game are a career low for him, 6.1 A/G - down from the career high 7.8 A/G he had under Dorsey in 2022 or the 7.3 he had under Daboll in 2021. He's also on-pace for a career low in QB pressures (on pace for 99, vs last year 126 or 184 in 2021), sacks ( on pace for 20, previous low last year, 24), and close to a career low of QB hits (on pace for 43, previous low 40).

Your post, for reference: "There is absolutely no reason anyone should have to inconvenience themselves in order to adapt to the behavior of "South American crime syndicates" in this country." The point I think some are trying to make is, your post is meaningless, not rational. Sure - we shouldn't have to "inconvenience ourselves" to adapt to the behavior of any foreign crime syndicates. Everyone would agree with that. We shouldn't. But they're here, and they're impacting people, so what ya gonna do? The whole point of foreign crime syndicates is that the actual brains bankrolling the operation are - foreign. Off-shore. Not subject to arrest and sentencing by US Law Enforcement. You might catch and jail some of the stooges, but that's just cutting off a limb that is easily re-grown. Where did the stuff about "you can't just arrest violent criminals and sentence them to jail time. You also can't deport them if they're non criminals!" ? No one is arguing that that I've seen. Seems to me you're injecting your own hobby horses into the conversation. The whole point of this is that the criminals are targeting vacant properties of NFL stars and committing property crimes, theft - not violent crimes. There's also nothing about whether the actual thieves are citizens or not, just that the brains of the thing, planning the crimes and bankrolling the security jammers or whatever other high technology, are foreign crime syndicates.

Yes, WEO, that's the point, we know real estate transactions are publicly discoverable, but almost all athletes own their property through an LLC Pretty sure you won't find Knox or Allen in that database