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Indeed. And previous playing stint with Washington, the team went 1-7 with him playing, but he completed 65% of his passes for 11 TD and 5 INTs. That isn't brilliance, but it should be enough to win. Washington that year was 31 for rushing attempts and 27 for Defense - bad team. And as I recall, Keenum played pretty well in the first couple games, then injured his foot in the 3rd game and started the 4th game anyway - that didn't go too well. <-- note to the "who cares if the player is injured, he should be playing anyway, McDermott is a sissy" crowd

Do they want to play? I'm sure. Do the Bills let them play if it's KC? Well, we let Beasley play on a broken leg, and there are serious questions about whether he was, in fact, able to be more effective than "next man up". Milano in a shoulder brace played a couple games in 2020 where it turned out he literally could not lift his arm to make a tackle. After that, the Bills wisely shut him down for 3 weeks. Wanting to play and the team putting them out there does not mean "physically effective play".

In 2020, we couldn't run the ball. 4 games with <100 rush yards - one a low of 63! Then we went into NE and ran the ball all over them. 38 rush plays, 18 pass plays, 190 yds rushing. Moss and Motor both had >80 yds. So, it's just possible that we might be able to run the ball if we actually focus on it. Now, whether Dorsey and Kromer can creatively make that happen as Daboll did, don't know.

this seems to be a well-written and factual article by new TBN reporter Ryan O'Halloran of TBN. https://buffalonews.com/sports/bills/analysis-what-bills-quarterback-josh-allens-week-of-recovery-could-look-like/article_aa7e23fa-5fbf-11ed-8abd-132b133806e9.html McDermott has held the "be vague" and "loose lips sink ships" principles when reporting injuries. Don't expect that to change. He makes the point that with multiple opinions, the diagnosis is often the same, but the treatment plans may differ. Well, that was definitive. I agree with O'Halloran's opinion here: Cam Newton and Andrew Luck IMO both had their careers curtailed by a team allowing them to play through injury. The player wanted to, the teams chose to let them.

In Allen's rookie season, the damage was caused by a helmet driving into his elbow. I think we can safely assume that opposing players will be targeting Allen's elbow on every tackle, trying to worsen the injury and knock him out.

That'd be great, you go visit the Bills locker room and inform Milano's oblique, Poyer's elbow, Tre's ACL, Rousseau's ankle, and Allen's elbow that they all better instantly become "football functional" because Negan says "enough is enough"

well his rookie year, he was out 4 weeks different body part but high ankle sprains or severe low ankle sprains seem to keep players out 2-4 weeks

We're not going to see that. The press is only allowed to see part of the practice, seems like usually stretching and some of the position drills. What you're gonna see is a comment on Josh being on the sideline vs. out there throwing, and it wouldn't surprise me if they shoo the reporters out of the building prior to any QB throwing drills. McDermott will announce that he's "day to day" with an elbow, and that's about all we'll get. I actually kind of noted that we didn't see any video of Allen throwing to WR last week. We did earlier in the season, but I haven't been paying enough attention to know if that's fallen off for weeks or just last week. Well, we should have beaten the Jets. Without those 2 INTs, don't you think there's a high probability that we would have?

It's reported as a high ankle, and those seem to take 3 games. I think what "week to week" means in this context is, they don't intend to put him on IR

That makes sense, yeah. But then why the Colts would "go to the well" again and bring in another once-great QB, is a total puzzle.

Orton did OK as a QB. Unsure about Bledsoe unless we get to pick the vintage, like a wine.

Two things: First, it's been correctly pointed out upthread by several people that people who throw for a living are not all the same. Baseball pitchers get Tommy John for UCL injury. Football QB usually don't. Second, in 2018, Josh sustained a Grade 2 tear to his throwing elbow which sidelined him for 4 weeks, and most observers felt his throwing was better later that season. He did not have surgery. Of course, it's a fair point that 0 weeks off and 4 weeks off is a big difference.

I can't blame them for Rivers. They thought they had a winning team, then Luck retired. He was their Stafford, so to speak, the very talented QB trapped for years in a spinning-its-wheels franchise. But once he retired, then yeah, they needed to re-tool and say "we gotta get our guy" Is all this drama about Ballard apologizing to management for Wentz public somewhere?

Well, if that’s true, then Reich has a lot of responsibility for the debacle. I don’t see Ballard as having the ego to be a rubber stamp, though, and Reich was very much an afterthought of a hire if we recall, who didn’t even get to hire his staff. So how did he get that influence?

Beautiful! We set an alarm and woke up to try to see the eclipse, but it was cloudy obscuring the moon so we went back to bed.

From Josh Allen’s UCL to arguing about Native American burial grounds This is what makes TBD great (I’m serious)

I doubt Reich wanted to be fired in the middle of the season. Maybe Reich wanted to bring in a different QB and play Ryan again after his injury heals, given that this poor sacrificial 6th round pick was completely unable to play QB last Sunday? Irsay is the guy who let Curtis Painter play QB while the Colts went 2-14 in the “Suck for Luck” fest, so we know he’s willing to sacrifice a HC and a team/season to go for a draft pick. Who knows? I feel for Frank Reich though. I think he got shanked on QBs with Luck retiring unexpectedly, Rivers retiring after 1 season, and the decision to bring in Wentz and Rivers. I wonder how much of those decisions were his and how much was Irsays and Ballard? McAfee kind of implied that perhaps Saturday wanted to get into NFL coaching without going through the grind of being an assistant then a position coach then….. Maybe he figures if he can at least field a team that can get first downs, he’ll get a shot? I dunno, you’re right, it’s just totally weird. Is there a Luck-type QB prospect in this year’s draft? Zack Moss is probably “what the Holy Heck did I just walk into?”

There seem to be a lot of those around.

I ain't welcoming the Enemy and he ain't coming home. If we beat his ass we can donate then

I think McD's presser will be before practice tomorrow. Late morning?

Not as far as anyone knows. He claims to be a friend of a friend of Allen's girlfriend

I like this reply That poor guy! He looks like he's aged about 2 decades in his 4.5 years as the Colts HC. I look at him and go "*****, he's about my age, do I look that old?"

They would cut a player and promote Matt Barkley from the practice squad. I defer to your broader exposure to the guy. I do think he may know someone who works in the training facility, but I'm sure rumors surge through the facility that are sometimes wrong and sometimes right, too.

This guy has known stuff in the past, he has some kind of connection to the team, maybe through the facility or trainers: Tweeted about 40 minutes ago, 8:10 pm -ish