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I disagree. I think they do go with the "irrefutable evidence" standard. Yes, I agree. They seem to be back to micro-analysing "did the ball move at all?" on those sideline catches.

I share your frustration and your apparent belief that "c'mon, that was a catch" but, it wasn't overturned. It was ruled incomplete on the field, I think by a ref who didn't see that McKenzie got a knee down before he went OOB. Then after that they got into microanalysis of hand placement and ball movement - ridiculous. I think if it had been ruled a catch, it would not have been overturned - that "conclusive evidence" thing. The announcers keep talking as though they have. Same deal on the Poyer interception that was ruled incomplete OOB because "the ball moved". Is it something about a catch OOB? Because I thought like you did, that there was no longer supposed to be this minute "did the ball move even the teeny tinyest bit" microanalysis. That was a problem. I need to look at the all-2, I think that was a route running error.

No. Literally: No. No one can. QBR is a "frankenstat" created by ESPN in an attempt to measure QB efficiency: I've heard it's calculated with something like 10,000 lines of code and no one really understands what goes into it, or comes out of it. They've tried to tinker with it to avoid ridiculous numbers as called out above, but it's still...got its quirks. Part of the problem is that it includes metrics like how much pressure the QB is under, a bunch more stuff that is relatively subjective. So if the subjective metrics aren't assessed accurately, GIGO applies.

They stress a defense in a different way. Waddle and Hill are just *****in' fast. It's ridiculous, especially when the field is a bit slick and defenders lose a big step every time they cut. But Tua still needs to prove he can find them consistently near the sidelines, and he does get less accurate when he's moved off his spot and made uncomfortable. Chase, Higgins, and Boyd are excellent receivers and their passing game is *chef's kiss* designed to scheme them open and make the defenders "wrong" whatever they do. Burrows is a tough SOB and happy to move around and can sling it, everywhere.

After his 2020 concussion (his most recent one) reporters were kind of hinting at that to Morse. Morse said something to the effect of, he was just fine, and if he got another concussion he'd be just fine, because they're doing things right. By which I took him to mean, he didn't fudge his baseline testing but gave it honest effort so it takes him out when he ought to come out, and won't let him in when he isn't recovered yet.

We won, so I got what I'm wanting! But Yes on the more diverse passing game. Not just to RBs (8 targets combined), but to Knox (8 targets) and Morris, to the slots (6 targets) - spreading the ball around. I thought it opened things up for Davis (6 targets) and for Diggs (9 targets). We overall moved the ball better, and in the end, Everybody Ate. Josh threw to 9 different guys. I would have liked to see more running game from backs not named Josh Allen, but after we were playing with 2 backup OLmen all bets were off. You?

You know, the Other Team Gets Paid too. Maybe they made adjustments at half, and we had to adjust to their adjustments on offense. Do you need it pointed out that losing Morse, having a jailbreak every snap, and holding penalties are all related? It's not "our guys get sloppy with penalties" like they were thinking about what they'd eat after the game or sleepy from the half time chicken soup and orange slices. They were struggling badly without Morse and with Van Roten at center and Quessenberry at RG. I agree with the others that "survive and keep hope alive" seems appropriate for a team in the hunt for a WC spot, not the #1 AFC seed (at the moment) who just clinched a playoff spot with 3 games to go.

To be fair there, in his post-win presser McDermott commented on "throwing a TD with zero left on the clock - he's lucky he threw a TD or he and I would have had a conversation. I might have let the air out of his tires", so our HC seemed to agree that the clock management was sub-optimal there. He did keep cracking a smile after every stern and negative thing he said though . As Josh would say "the best conviction is completion" I can't say I thought they were good, but it was the pre-game and post-game hosts (aka "goldilocks and the 3 bears") that made me fly for the mute buttton. Good Lord Almighty, make it stop" Goldilocks needed a whip and a chair to keep Smith and MJD in line and Michael Robinson was trying to channel Kyle Brandt for Full Bore Bills Homer and failing. I missed that, when was that?

McDermott's presser is worth a listen. He was asked about the offensive series at the end of the 2nd half. He's like "yeah, throw a touchdown with 0 left on the clock" Deadpanned that Josh was lucky he threw a touchdown or "he and I would have had a talk". Joked he might have let the air out of his tires.

I realized that afterwards, you're right.

Not just that but prior to that, and well before the ball got there, defender shoved McKenzie back

I kind of wondered if the Josh Allen no intentional grounding were a bit of a "make up call" for the missed push off on Tre White. Ref kibbutzing with McDaniel on the sideline for a long time coming back from halftime and when asked what the convo was about, saying smugly to the reporter "just maintaining a cordial professiona relationship" yeah, Right.

But But But... McKenzie only had 2 catches on 5 targets! (never mind that on one of the incompletions, we were Robbed and on the other, he was Mugged and drew the DPI). No, he isn't a great WR or even a very good WR, but he's not garbage either "Dropsome" Knox, another favorite TBD whipping boy, 6 of 8 for 98 yds Gabe Davis, 4 of 6 for 58 yds, Solid, especially as a couple of them were over the middle of the field intermediate, where we doubt Gonna be interesting to see how Cole Beasley's snap count came out. 1 target, 1 reception but I thought I saw him on the field more than I expected Glad to see Quintin Morris and Nyheim Hines get touchdowns. Morris can run routes and catch the ball, wish we'd use him more. I was not happy with Stefon Diggs tantrum "I want the ball" on the one McKenzie target that was a good PBU. It's true that he was more open at one point in the play, but not sure it was clear he'd be able to reverse and come open at the point where Josh had to throw. That is NOT a good look, especially when he kept it up for a while on the sideline. I normally wouldn't comment on 5 of 9 receptions for 60 yds, because some of them were clutch and he's our best WR bar none - but if you want to have a tantrum when you aren't targeted, then you better have a 3rd gear to run under the deep ball and make a couple of those other contested catches. Edit: elsewhere it was pointed out, whether Diggs was targeted or McKenzie, whether they caught it or didn't, the ball was coming back on a holding penalty (declined on the incompletion). Which makes Diggs temper tantrum all the more dumbass.

I’m starting to get ….frustrated isn’t the right word, “Bemused” by is better - fans on this board who can’t even enjoy the win for an hour without dunking on a player or two or a coach.

Once Morse went out it would have been a big mistake to go under center. Josh has large sure hands and even so, he was challenged on a couple of those plays.

If we’re talking video review, that sideline grab where McKenzie got his knees down was 100% a catch. We got robbed on that just like on Poyer’s sideline INT

“I ain’t complaining but I’m tired so I’m just sayin’ what I think And if we’re being honest, then honestly I think I need a drink” -Martina McBride

But the free trial is 2 weeks and next week’s game is also on Saturday

Well….he missed 1 game in “concussion protocol”. Then he was cleared, but a “healthy scratch” for the following game. Opinions varied as to why: did they want to give Feliciano another start, or be cautious with Morse? I don’t think he goes to IR, but you never know.

They said during the game “out for the rest of the game with a concussion”

Cam Lewis knew he’ screwed up, too. Nice job staying on the ground rolling around like in pain, in case someone might have tapped him and he’d get excused but he knew he screwed up.

I don’t even know what that means “battle of Allen vs Ken Dorsey”

The Dolphins don’t have the #1 passing offense for Y/A and #2 for yards because they’re easy to stop passing.

If we swapped the uniforms with photoshop and put it up on FinHeaven “look at this blatant PI the refs missed” they would have no doubt 😅