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I was wondering if someone would "invoke obscure rules" or obscure special teams procedures and tell me it wasn't as much of a brain-dead ***** up as I thought. So far 🦗 on that point

However much basketball he's been playing, he hasn't been playing football, running routes at game-speed and getting hit. If he tries to do too much, like Xavier Rhodes, the Bills risk him pulling a hammy and going on PS IR for 4 weeks. He got 11 snaps, 14%, which is actually about what I thought he'd get (I was guessing 8-10). We could use him "busting loose" but whether he's got any "busting loose" left in him, can't tell you. I'd settle for a few critical "get open and catch the ball" and if he lights a fire under McKenzie and Shakir that's good too.

The failure to batt the pass down was a bad play, but our DBs are legit drilled and drilled and drilled to be ballhawks, until situations arise where they need to knock it down. Yeah, good players have the situational awareness and adjust. Yeah, his failure to knock the pass down arguably cost us the game. But I can understand that it's asking a player to override physical and mental reflexes that have been dinned into them in every meeting and drilled into them on the field all week. Backup players make bad plays, it happens. Under no circumstances is a ST player coached to scoop up the punter and slam him down. That was a real FART ("***** Are you Really Thinking?") kind of a play in my view; no excuse I can think of.

I think Allen benefited from the same factor that allowed the Fish to run on our D, the field was a little slick and made it harder for defenders to react. But also, Allen is just faster than defenders think he is and has an extra gear defenders don't think he has, so they take bad angles. LOL. I was very grateful that the refs called that penalty when they chopped at his arm OOB after the next play. Sanchez or whoever it was said a bunch of crap about it being hard to stop yourself, but I don't think the refs call the penalty on the OOB push. They call it because Allen was OOB and the Dolphin defender was mauling at his throwing arm. I was just glad that our OL was able to politely explain their POV on that without getting offsetting penalties. Your guess is wrong. Allen and his HS Coach have said he was a scrawny little guy; he put on a growth spurt to 6'1 late in HS and then, by his own account, couldn't run to the point where his baseball coach called him "Tortuga". He grew to his 6'5" height but was a total beanpole in JUCO, where he finally hit a quality weight room and put on some muscle. But it wasn't until he was injured at Wyoming (running, putting his shoulder down) that he really put on some muscle mass and started to become the Creature we see today.

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OMFG, that roughing penalty. Bills D gets a stop, but Fins pin us at the 2. We get punting room, but not more. D gets another stop, this time preventing a FG on a drive that practically started in FG range. They were fierce. I was proud. Dolphins punt. Then Cam Lewis Enters the Chat. I don't think I've seen a more clearly idiotic play in the last two seasons. Prove me wrong. Edit: OK, I have been proven wrong, by an unexpected source. It is not longer even the most idiotic play I've seen THIS season.

LOL I love your spirit, but how will we stop him? My concern is that McDermott did not "overrule" Beane. I think Beane was raised up as a GM in Carolina where the Cam Newton model was get a great franchise QB, then Your Guy is a "rising tide who lifts all boats" on offense - so draft defense. Mike Shula came from the same school of thought, and so did Dorsey. Even if Dorsey sees it differently, I'm not sure how much he's "running the show" or how much clout he has to make a case for doing things differently - they've sure surrounded him with a lot of guys. Question: what QB in today's NFL actually gets 4-5 seconds against good teams, without running behind the LOS to extend the play? with Morse and Bates out, I don't think you should get a single argument. With Morse and Bates, I think you're over-rating OL play around the league. Greg Cosell, who watches more film than anyone, calls us "slightly above average but not better".

He needs to be activated today, or go on season ending IR. Ike Boettger Watch is officially underway!

😂 Did you catch anything about why Josh Allen was yelling at the Dolphins fans before the Post-game Show?

Personally, I think expecting to destroy Miami, under the conditions we played, was unrealistic. Miami is a well-coached team with elite talent on offense and good defense. They improved their D since the last time we played by adding Chubb. They had their "backs against the wall" having lost 2 in a row, had heard a lot of crap talk about not being able to play in cold weather, and came out ready to rumble and prove the doubters wrong. The field was a bit slick, which favors the offense over defenders (who must react). We are missing two key pieces on defense - Von Miller for the season, and Jordan Phillips for who-knows-how-long, with a 3rd (Ed Oliver) playing injured. I'm happy we won. I didn't expect a blowout. To do the Dolphins justice, I think that's what their fans are saying. I'll put it out there that I think they are overrated fans who think it's funny to force the opposing players to risk heatstroke, which kind of makes them trashy in my book. Are any of the Dolphins players or coaches really saying this?

LOL Sanchez actually said that the Dolphins might have been better off trying to hold Singletary up and drag him into the endzone, so the Bills would have to kick off and they would still get a chance to score.

I thought he was more critical of Singletary kneeling before he got the 1st down. On the call, he recognized that Singletary likely would not have scored. It was 2nd down, and the Bills game plan called for Josh to take a knee on the next play after running out some time, so I think Sanchez was mistaken on that point and the 1st down was immaterial. In any case, it was pretty clear that any critique should go to the coaches and not Motor, Motor was doing exactly what he was coached to do. Don't risk a fumble, don't try for the EZ, Go Down.

Oh no! I hope nothing serious.

What would you call it? A mature and constructive reaction on Digg's part? This is like the 3rd or 4th time he's done it when Josh is struggling, and I don't think it's helpful. Are you saying you do? You miss the point of a lot of what I've said about McKenzie, so the latter crack is no surprise. You are an erudite and insightful poster who has mastered the meanings I've tried to convey and convincingly rebutted them.

That's far from the point. But people are defending "Diva behavior" from Diggs as justified and an understandable response to the Bills offensive play, and that just doesn't fit the actual context of what we're seeing. I don't want to get rid of Diggs, but I think he needs to be more mindful of the pressure his behavior puts on his QB and the impact it may have on his WR teammates. He has literally twice as many targets and more than twice as many receptions as the Bills next guy, so it indeed makes him look like a Diva. No one wants to get rid of him over it.

Once again: the offense was hardly "cumulatively stagnant" at the point when Diggs reacted. And the struggles they did have on that drive, were on the OL. But that's not what he's doing. He's not saying "I got you, get it to me I'll make you right" in the huddle or on the bench and then moving on. He is very visibly and publicly second-guessing his QB after the play and making his displeasure and dissatisfaction obvious. There is nothing constructive about how he's handling this. It's putting extra pressure on Josh at a point when the D is already giving him all he can handle or more.

We seem to be defending his very visible very public prolonged and extending onto the sidelines hissy fits over not getting targeted when he thinks he should. I have no knock on Diggs, but I think he needs to "step away" from the in-game drama.

I wasn't aware anything had happened to Klein, if you're talking about a potential injury? If you're talking about playing time, nothing happened to him. Bills played nickel close to 100% of the time and Milano and Edmunds played 100% of the snaps. Bernard and Klein played ST.

I think this is strong projection on your part. It doesn't fit the observation of when Diggs does or does not have his little hissy reactions. Among other things, it was only like 4 minutes into the 3Q, and as I pointed out, the Bills offense was not "stagnant", they had just moved the ball 42 yards in 4 plays.

I'm sure he wants to win, but he's also 3rd in the league in receptions and yards right now - with Tyreek Hill, #2, ahead of him, on the opposite side of the ball. I think it's highly naive to think he "just wants to win" and doesn't care about touches or stats. If he "just wants to win", he should be happy when Josh throws a completion short or hands the ball off, and we move the chains.

Can you provide examples of this happening when Diggs has had his frustration fits? Spoiler: you can't. For one thing, even if that is, in fact, what's happening when Diggs is having these fits: in the moment, he is not "watching" it. He is minding his own store and running his own routes then reacting. He has no idea if the other receiver just dropped the ball, was interfered with, caught a pass that was ruled incomplete, or the DB just made a good PD. He's not watching replays on the big screen and then having a fit - he is open, he knows he's open, and he's reacting immediately because he was open and not targeted and he thinks he should be. That's "Me Ball", not "We Ball". Allen was 16 of 23 and the Bills were 5 of 6 on 3rd down conversions in the first half with 3 TDs. The Bills were executing in the 1st half. At the point where Diggs had his hissy, the Bills had just driven from their own 25 to the Mia 33 in 4 plays. Guys were executing. The one who just missed catching a pass was Diggs himself, but that wouldn't have mattered because of OH call. The "hissy" play didn't matter because of OH. Diggs is not just some selfless team guy who reacts like that only when his WR buds screw up and he could save the day. That doesn't match what we actually see. I think Diggs would have eventually been more open, but as you note, Allen didn't have time.

LOL it's too bad McDaniel doesn't lend himself to "What Is Jim Ir SAYING? " like Pat McAfee did when Reich was fired. I think what another coach would say is: "We played hard and they just made a couple more plays than we did. The other team gets paid, too. It's hard to win in the NFL. On to Green Bay." I think what he means is, "I told the team at the beginning of the season, you have to be strong-minded and stay confident when things don't go your way. Every game, even when they execute and play well, every team is vulnerable. The other team is vulnerable every week. We're vulnerable every week. Embrace that, and just relax and play football".

I disagree. I thought the refs were letting a lot of stuff go, especially on the Dolphins OL. There was one play where Milano went flying through the air involuntarily, I was like "you can't do that to a LB when you're on OL". Dolphins had 8 penalties for 51 yds. Bills had 7 penalties for 51 yds.

That was a horrible look. First of all, need to see all-22 but pretty sure Diggs came open later than McKenzie did. Yes, Digs was eventually more open and an easier throw, but I'm not sure he'd started his cut when Josh had to throw, and throwing into the middle of the field when you don't yet know if your receiver will get tripped or held or just slip is how you get picked. Second of all, it didn't matter who got the target or even if they got the catch, because there was a holding penalty and the catch would have been nullified. Third, sorry Diggs, but Josh has been taking his shots to the deepest man all season, stop whining when that isn't you.

Agree. Has to be realized that Van Roten is essentially our 3rd string C. The Truth