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I got taken to all kind of late night stuff as a kiddo, but Hell woulda been renting out ice skates before I was taken to a night event on a school night. But when you have a child in remission from cancer....it does change your risk perception. We all live our lives as though there will be time enough; you can wait and take the 4 year old to a Bills game when they're 14 Once the kid has had cancer....you always worry it will come back. You have to live as though there might not be tomorrow for them. So if there's something rare and really important, like you're all big 49ers fans but can't afford to fly to San Francisco for a game, and the 9ers are playing in Buffalo....I can understand why you "seize the day". I think they shoulda picked seats in the family section, myself. But I understand why they went to the game.

Only missed 3 games so far (plus bye). So if he can go this week, they came out a week ahead. Plus, IR players can't practice with the team, while Coleman did practice this past week, which is a benefit for him

Thought he got a shoulder pad to the head. (looks it up) Yeah shoulder pad to helmet. But while looking, I found this juicy bit: "No one from the Patriots was there until Madden called them"

They have. Has to be repeat offender (which he is), and the after-the-whistle stuff likely added a game.

Again, Al-Shaair wasn't suspended 3 games for this one hit on the field. He was suspended for 1) his actions after the whistle, which included throwing a Jaguars player down by the facemask and trying to go after a different Jags player after the ref informed him he was ejected 2) his actions earlier in the fall, hitting Caleb Williams out of bounds and punching a Bears player in the face when he objected 3) previous seasons actions that are seen as a pattern The league does habitually wait for the legal process to complete before taking disciplinary action. A practical part of that is while evidence is being gathered and reviewed by law enforcement, the league may not have full access to it and doesn't want to be held to be compromising a legal case by sending out their own investigators. Von Miller was suspended 4 games because that's the league's minimum suspension for domestic violence. It didn't take place until this season because until the law decided there would be no charges filed, the league wasn't gonna investigate. No idea what Rice will get. I would hope, more than 4 games. All league suspensions are without pay.

Wat? Did he really? Right after the game, he was more " Edit: OK, I found it

I had assumed (maybe falsely) that they plonked him in with just his Bills snaps, but who knows. I agree if they're trying to make a point that Phillips plays differently with the Bills, it would not make sense to include snaps with other teams Thing is....he only has 34 snaps with Dallas, so he doesn't make that "100 snap minimum" even if they did roll in Dallas snaps?? He was on IR and didn't play with them for 6 games

I dunno about against the Bills, but he hit Caleb Williams OOB and then punched Bears RB Johnson in the face when he objected. He wasn't suspended for that. Earlier in his career he grabbed Tom Brady by the throat [Edit: not that there's anything wrong with that....] He was suspended 3 games, not for one illegal hit, but for 1) a previous pattern of illegal hits and after the whistle unsportsmanlike behavior (punching opponent in face) 2) his behavior after the hit, where he threw a Jags player down by the facemask and continued to yell and fight after he was informed he'd been ejected. Malice doesn't matter. The NFL has made it clear they are not in the business of judging intent. Don't hit a player in the head. Don't hit a player who has given themselves up in the head Yeah, I want to add....Josh Allen is not above using the fake slide move, but that juke in the Pittsburgh game was not it.

Suspended Kareem Jackson last year. 4 games twice; first suspension was reduced to 2 games.

Yikes! No wonder they don't get there!

I was thinking of the Shady McCoy girlfriend drama when I read this. "Delicia Cordon". Similar vibes

Phillips has been playing more, and he's been playing pretty well

If the fan bumped the father and the son "a little bit", it sounds as though that's probably what he did to the little girl, bumped her, only she was less steady. "I'm gonna push through fans" doesn't sound like throwing someone down the stairs or even deliberately pushing someone down the stairs. As several people have noticed, the stairs were icy and snow-packed and people were falling on the regular without any pushing at all. Wait, how are the Bills currently trying to clear the seats and aisles?

Actually, I think this is the major point. They really need to upgrade their snow removal efforts. They're currently using a contractor, they pay the contractor X dollars for snow removal. The contractor takes their cut then designates (X-cut) dollars to hire snow shovelers. These days, they aren't hiring enough to actually....get the job DONE, so the seats are left full of snow and the stairs become an icy slippery mess. They need to up what they're paying the contractor to reflect current wage expectations (or go back to adding tickets into the mix), and require that the stadium stairs be cleared in all sections. San Antonio perhaps. St Louis, no, the NFL hates St Louis. Let 2 teams move away from St Louis.

I think he should have gotten 4, but I think the NFL does have some kind of guidelines so maybe? Kareem Jackson got 4 for a repeated violation, after a hit on Joshua Dobbs he wasn't even flagged for (should have been UR IMO) Dude, runner or not, once a ball carrier "gives themselves up", they are down, and you're not supposed to hit them. You played, you know that. That's any ball carrier, not just a QB, but we all know that practically speaking, the NFL is trying to protect QBs these days so "extra spice" if you hit a QB who has "given themselves up". The Rules are the Rules, and the Facts are the Facts, and when the Cheese Drawer Opens, Ya Gotta Pay the Tax

Yes. Yes he does. He once grabbed Tom Brady by the throat, AFTER Brady threw a pass. I don't think that was penalized. It should have been. He punched another player after the play earlier this season - think it was Bears RB Roschon Johnson - Al-Shaair laid a late hit on Caleb Williams after he was OOB, the Bears players rightly took exception, Shaair punched Johnson. He was penalized and fined, but not ejected or suspended. Those are two I know about, I think there have been a couple others tho Because of that prior history, Caserio comes across like a complete tool saying he's "embarrassed" by the league's handling of the matter and calls the portrayal of his player "bulls--t." I mean, Al-Shaair may be kind to puppies, help little old ladies carry their groceries to their cars off the field, and support charities, but he's got a history of crossing the line ON the field. Caserio has a lot of nerve whinging about "in this situation, quite frankly, there's no consistency at all relative to the level of discipline that's been handed down.". He doesn't like it that other players have been ejected but not suspended. But do they have the same history? Al-Shaair caught a break in the Bears game. Break-time is over. Caserio complains that Kareem Jackson was treated with leniency, but he was suspended for 4 games - twice (he appealed the first suspension and it was reduced, then he came back and was promptly suspended again). Anyway.

Nah. He might not have been able to avoid hitting Lawrence, but he didn't have to slam his forearm brace into Lawrence neck and chin.

Um, maybe I don't understand you, but if an RB TE or WR decides to "give himself up" it is just as illegal to hit him. A player "giving himself up" by sliding or taking a knee is not limited to QB, any ball carrier can do it. Rule 7-2-1-d (which covers when the ball becomes dead) says: when a runner declares himself down by: (1) falling to the ground or kneeling, and clearly making no immediate effort to advance; or (2) sliding. When a runner slides feet or head first or simulates sliding, the ball is dead the instant he touches the ground with anything other than his hands or his feet, or begins to simulate touching the ground; There were several controveries around this - I think one was Evan Engram "giving himself up" then the ball coming out, which was ruled "not a fumble"; another involved Mixon tossing the ball to a teammate assuming he was down by contact, KC grabbed the ball and tried to advance it as though it were fumbled (the refs didn't bite)

Fair. I didn't read the whole thread before I responded to you. I won't take it personally if you don't feel moved to respond. I wasn't one of them. He was going for the ball, not Keon's head, on a play where if Keon makes the catch it's over. 'Course, getting penalized meant it was over, but there's always the chance it won't be called. It was a bang-bang play just like back in....hmmm 2019 I think, we played the Pats and Josh went out with a concussion after Jonathan Jones hit him - Josh was still upright and running, Jones launched into Allen as a runner just as his teammate tackled Josh from behind, so Josh was coming down and Jones shoulder and arm went right into his chin and head. A lot of fans were "dirty play" then too - they were wrong. Poyer was always an edgy player, especially as he's aged and his athleticism has dropped off somewhat. We loved his edgy when it was our edgy, but it's the same edgy. I guess I'm not following you here that whether it's dirty or not doesn't matter....if it's not dirty it's an illegal hit, it calls for a penalty but not an ejection or a suspension If it's dirty, it calls for both The NFL agrees with you since initially Myles Garrett was suspended indefinitely, I think it wound up being 6 games. I will say as far as I can make out from the NFL's letter, part of the ejection appears to be the fight after the hit, in which Al-Shaair threw another player to the ground by his facemask, and then when told he was ejected by the ref, kept right on going to pursue a different opponent. All that "after the play" extracurricular stuff isn't part of the game either.

That totally cracked me up. "That's my pet - what are they called again?" I was totally waiting for the press to ask their names and what they eat.

Who knew McDermott's sense of humor involved fib with a straight face?

So I think I posted this in a different thread. It turns out Hollins has been filming these little "challenge" videos on Instagram, a different one every month. I think they're on Friday. Unlike stupid and destructive challenges like Tide Pods, these are actually him providing useful tips or science entertainment with good explanations. For November, he was doing Science Challenges and the lab coat, white wig, glasses, and gloves, were the outfit he filmed in. The things he did weren't novel, but his delivery was cool, his explanations were good, and if his message was "Watch this kids! Yes, you can be quirky and geeky and smart, and still be an amazing athlete and a pro NFL player", I love it! Here are two of them: Diet coke geyser: https://www.instagram.com/reel/DC7bq12yPDG/?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet Become Waterproof: https://www.instagram.com/reel/DC7bq12yPDG/?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet Agreed, the bare feet are about #4. But now that I know the "crazy" had a purpose and wasn't a random schtick, I like it.

Wow, Caserio. He is not doing the Texans program any favors with the league by presenting Al-Shaair as an exemplar of the Texans program and values. Caserio would be within his rights to question the consistency of discipline, but he needs to say "we understand that the hit was unacceptable. we have questions about the discipline relative to other discipline and will be reaching out to the league to share our concerns". Sounds to me that the length of the suspension was influenced by Shaiir's previous behavior and by failing to respect the referee and leave the field after the ejection. The league has these relatively small, relatively weak refs who need to maintain control of 106+ testosterone-laden, revved-up men playing a violent game. They are going to be harsh on any behavior that disrespects the ref, for good reason.

I respectfully disagree. He changed his angle, launched AND hit Trevor across the neck with his braced forearm. You know you're not supposed to hit a sliding QB. You know you're not supposed to hit a player in the head. He did both. It's sometimes impossible to avoid hitting a sliding player, but you don't have to neck-bar him. Yes.