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Channing Crowder doesn't know ***** from shinola bringing Josh Allen into it That's not the vibe his teammates give off about him. They love him. They would run through a wall for him.

That's a great question, and I'm sure one that the Bills FO has posed to the league

If nothing else, after having a breathing tube shoved down his throat for 3 1/2 days, he has the Granddaddy of All Sore Throats

I mean, it was a press conference, and they're ICU docs. "Home with his family" is the near term goal, but they're not going to spell out all the possible intermediate steps and decision making plusses and minuses nor should they.

Yeah, still a bit too soon. At this point he got off the ventilator, but that probably means the cardiologists have a backlog of tests they've deferred because they're hard to do while the guy is on a ventilator. Let's get him up and walking and finish up the diagnosis first.

This kind of got buried in concerns, but TBN wrote a nice story on a Lewiston NY native who may have gone through the same thing starting October 27 https://buffalonews.com/news/local/lewiston-natives-heart-stopped-while-playing-college-baseball-hes-making-a-full-recovery/article_f4bd5c12-8baf-11ed-b59c-7fb841b8ca04.html Damar was evidently sedated for ~2 - 2 1/2 days which could represent difference in protocol between UC and Cornell-Weil, or, a higher level of emergency care available at an NFL game vs. a college Baseball practice leading to a bit better initial outcome. He has been cleared to play baseball again as of Thanksgiving.

It probably included his closest friends on the Bills, such Dane Jackson (who, as you note, was a college teammate)

Autocorrect still sucks, Muppy

I'm sure that "one more thing" at the end of Josh's presser was impactful for not just Tee Higgins but the entire Bengals team, as well. Don't take this on yourself It was a football play Bengals fans who are all salty that their team is getting screwed need to remember that the Bengals captains reportedly came to the Bills locker room to say "we don't want to continue the game either". They had their own emotions and processing, less than the Bills but still - very hard to play undistracted with a single mind, and very possible to get hurt if you don't.

In fact, unless I mis-heard, McDermott said the playoff implications if the NFL held that the Bills L were discussed at the time on Monday night and....everyone said "don't care, all we care about right now is Damar, we don't want to play the game".

Absolutely. When the Bengals were down to the Bucs 17-3 at the half, they were TOTALLY in control of the game and anyone who thinks differently just wasn't watching.

I think that's a Bridge Too Far It's not inconceivable that he might be ready to transfer out of the ICU this weekend and transfer to a rehab facility either in Buffalo, closer to his teammates, or in Pittsburgh, closer to his family, next week. But let's leave him where he can still be monitored closely for a minute or two yet.

The entire Bills medical team should lead the charge. Except, that might be too emotional to be safe for the players.

This is awesome A little background on just why it's so awesome. Yesterday in the hospital press conference, one of the physicians stated that Damar was proned because he was suffering from ARDS (acute respiratory distress syndrome). This is common in "post resuscitation syndrome". Briefly and simply, while CPR and defibrillation save lives, the loss of circulation/oxygenation and the mechanical compression and ventilation of CPR cause an inflammatory response similar to sepsis not just in lungs but in other organs such as liver and kidneys. There is sometimes aspiration of saliva or stomach contents into the lungs as well, causing pneumonia (reducing this is the reason why intermingled compressions and breaths were nixed from CPR protocols, BTW). So in addition to needing ventilation while in the post-CPR hypothermia protocol, Dane likely needed breathing assistance because of the chemical soup and goop in his lungs (from his body's inflammatory response) hindering gas exchange. That he's been able to get off the ventilator and breathe on his own less than 96 hrs after the event, is a testament to 1) the speed and quality of the emergency response minimizing this 2) Damar's innate physical condition and health fighting it 3) the quality of the care he's been receiving in hospital treating it

Fixed it for ya.

I would be surprised, but very pleased. Rooting for them. McDaniel could end the season by improving on his W-L % in his stint as Denver HC. 7-11 would put him at 41% vs 39% in Denver. I will say that I believe Stidham really understands and is comfortable in McDaniel's offense, and Carr just never quite was. A lot depends upon if Jacobs can play. He was "limited" on Tues and DNP Weds for "personal reasons".

Yeah, CPR has changed a lot since I first certified 44 years ago. 5 compressions 2 breaths was the standard for 2-man CPR back then. Now there is no 2 man CPR.

I personally will be pulling hard for a Raiders victory this Saturday. I don't see how they can do it, but they lost by 1 point in Week 5 and they've had 3 other recent losses that could have gone either way, so I'm hoping for the best. Go Raiders! Wish playing in Vegas gave the Raiders more home-field advantage (never sounds like a home game to me, I expect it to sound like half Chiefs fans) but It Is What It Is.

WTH did I just read? I can't deny that the NFL proposal of how to handle the playoffs after the "no contest" game is unfair to the Bengals in aspects. That was going to happen. No way to make it fair to all parties that I could conceptualize But as far as telling someone the Bengals didn't "own the Bucs or Patriots" - when my team is losing 17-3 at the half as the Bengals were to the Bucs, I don't feel that they're "owning" the opponent, and I'd actually be very surprised if you felt that way in the moment. You turned it around in the 3Q, never looked back, and got the W. Very creditable. The Bills have had also had a couple wins this season where we went into halftime down and came back. So "running through the Bills" on the first two drives doesn't show you'd win, just as being down at the half to TB didn't show you'd lose.

I'll bet he's been an assistant trainer or trainer with a sports team since college. Sure, you certify and recertify - doesn't mean CPR is something he's done ever for-reals, much less regularly. That was my point. The NFL had a theoretical plan mixing athletic trainers with EMS professionals. It had never been tested. It worked. May you be bored! (on your ER shift)

The Buffalo Bills training staff? Um, No. Denny Kellington, the Bills Assistant Trainer who performed initial CPR? Unless he's been a combat medic or the like, probably has never done it for reals before. Looks like he's kind of moved from college team to college team as a trainer and then to the Bills. The paramedics and EMTs and the airway management specialist physician and the emergency medicine doc - of course you're correct. My point: the NFL has set out these protocols in which the First Responders are the athletic trainers, who run out on the field and assess dents and dings and even neurological trauma all the time, but whose experience with an actual ABC true emergency is nil - and in which they have 1 meeting a week to discuss how they'll work together with the EMS professionals. They had the protocols setting out roles and responsibilities, but they had never been actually used IRL And they worked seamlessly, with the less-experienced First Responder athletic trainers correctly identifying the emergency and doing all the right things. May you be bored!

Um, Nothing? Was this a trick question?

Yes.

I don't think he was in charge, but the athletic trainers were the ones out there initially and had to recognize the situation and radio for the rest of the response crew and equipment/start CPR They may have done the first CPR right through the pads and everything, so the guy really had to be a Beast to make it effective. I LOVE for 1st responders and EMS personnel to get their propers, but it really needs to be recognized that this, like a football game, was a Total Team Effort. Whoever cut the jersey and pads off enough to do effective defibrillation and got the facemask off to deliver oxygen, whoever called the Code (whatever their word is for cardiac arrest) and radioed for the defib and other supplies, deserves just as much credit.

Somehow fans got credit for donating directly to Oshei Children's Hospital in honor of Patricia Allen 🤷‍♂️ Charities aren't stupid. If they see an uptick in giving that looks like it has a specific motivation, it's in their interest to track and publicize it.