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Sorry for your loss. RIP.

3:45 in. "We did, think we were going back in the game, We did, get a 5 minute warning...there was a 5 minute warning saying we were going to get ready to play" Zac and McDermott talked and then they went back in the locker room In case anyone is interested in the story line that the ESPN announcers were somehow mistaken.

I thought that SNL skit was hysterical. But were they mocking Tebow for being a Christian, or for Tebow and other Christians attributing the Broncos wins to divine favor and otherwise making a huge public deal out of his beliefs, as though (paraphrasing the skit) Jesus was in fact dropping everything else going on in the world to "bail out the Denver Broncos in the 4th Q"? I think the latter, because at the time there had been other publicly professed Christians prominent in the NFL, like Kurt Warner in '08-09, and I don't recall their beliefs being parodied by comedians. I could mis-remember. Again, I respect faith as a personal belief, I respect professions of belief, and I do believe that prayer has a real, positive power. But I don't like Prosperity Gospel and I feel attributing football success to prayer or divine favor is a form of Prosperity Gospel like God is a kindergarten teacher putting gold stars on the best coloring page. To me it's different to thank God for a win out of the sincere belief that everything you do is as a servant of God and for His Glory. I believe that when McDermott says "all Glory to God" after a victory, he's expressing thanks that he and his team have been given the physical and mental gifts to work hard and achieve a win and he's dedicating his part in that achievement to the Glory of God - he's not saying "we won because I believe, therefore God rewarded us with Divine Favor and gave us the victory" I believe that because of little phrases McDermott drops that remind me of the way some of my family with those beliefs would phrase things. I'm probably not expressing the difference I see very well. I'm not used to talking about this stuff. But it's a clear difference to my mind. And of course I could be wrong, not being personally acquainted with Coach McDermott or his personal beliefs.

The belief that that faith, expressed through prayers, declarations of faith, and donations to the church—draws health, wealth, and happiness into believers' lives is a Thing (especially the health and wealth). Prosperity Gospel is alive and well in many churches, sometimes subtly and between the lines, sometimes explicit. My BIL was for many years, the minister of a series of small country fundamentalist Christian churches. That's what he felt called to do, though it paid poorly and he supported his family running a business. But he (and we) heard with our own ears people who identify as Christians implying he did not know God or have strong enough faith, because God had not blessed him with wordly goods. And yeah, when my niece's FIL passed from a disease I won't mention, it was implied by some that his faith, and the faith and prayers of his family were not sufficiently pure or strong. I respect faith, and I believe that prayer has a real power, but I feel that interpreting football success as divine favor is a form of Prosperity Gospel. You might grasp from the above, I am not a fan of that in any form.

??? For values of "struggled" where the struggling team is leading 24-7 at the half, and gave up 2 unanswered FG in the 2nd half, ending 27-16 with a 2 score lead? OK, they punted 5 times in the 2nd half, but I can't blame them for taking their foot off the gas a bit. But when you have at minimum a 2 score lead all through the game, I don't think that's what most would describe as "struggling". It's not a blowout win, certainly.

Again - Von Miller initially expected to be out like 1-2 weeks. The initial MRI missed his partially torn ACL. Medicine is an art. It's entirely possible that Jackson's injury was initially forecast to be 1-2 weeks, then 2 weeks went by and it's still swollen and there's still laxity in there. One doctor says "we can tape you and put on a brace and give you a shot and get you back out there, there's a risk but there's always a risk". Another doctor says "while there's this much laxity in your knee and this much swelling, you're at significantly higher risk for blowing out your whole knee, even with a brace" Lamar goes with the 2nd doctor, and the Ravens go with the first. It's Lamar's right under the CBA to have an independent medical opinion on an injury, and follow that medical advice.

Hi. Remember when we went from this To this Also remember when it was thought Josh Allen's torn UCL would put him out 2-4 weeks? It's possible for initial injury diagnosis to be inaccurate, in both directions Ask RGIII if he's glad he played in the Redskins WC game? If we don't remember, Griffin injured his knee in Week 14 Griffin was never the same. Oh, by the way - Lamar almost certainly has asked Griffin, since at one point Griffin was backing him up in Baltimore. I'm sure Lamar's lack of contract has something to do with it, because a player in the last year of his contract with no injury guarantees is in a different place, career-wise, than a player with a multi year contract committing the team to pay him if he plays through injury and ***** himself up. But if I were guessing, for a guy whose bread and butter as a QB is agility and speed, concern that if he plays on a joint with laxity because the LCL isn't properly protecting it he might totally blow out his knee like RGIII did and then "sayonara career", weighs large. Because unless he had a fully guaranteed contract, I believe he would only get one year then they can cut him. Aren't the Ravens a team that has one of the worst injury scores in the NFL among other training staff shenanigans? There might be reason for Jackson not to place his faith completely in their training and medical staff advice.

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He's expressing his views, so I dunno about "wrong" Ironic perhaps. He's a player who was thought by many (including coaches) to be "dogging it" with a foot injury when on the Bills and won the moniker "boo boo foot" (OK, boo-boo foot the second or junior, but that's ponderous) Now he's basically accusing another player, a premier player in the league, of being able to play, but dogging it over contract $$ Oh, and basically he's doing this while he pretty clearly hasn't been making every effort to maintain his body in peak playing condition or to go hard on every play (as the OP clip shows)

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I believe that was Dawkins

https://www.miamidolphins.com/news/transcript-mike-mcdaniel-s-media-availability-january-13 I think they intend to start Skyler Thompson, but reading this am I the only one that thinks maybe after the first series, Bridgewater is gonna play? Bridgewater is getting closer and closer to being able to play the way that he knows he needs to play...... On game day, we're hoping it's good enough for him to be able to fully execute everything in the offense.... There seem to be conflicting reports as to whether Bridgewater's finger is broken or was dislocated? But if Aaron Rodgers can play with a broken thumb..... ......I'm sure it's a "checkers" play the Bills coaches have considered.

Oh, and this: Who would take a guy that's trying to recover from concussion on a 4 hr plane flight, so that he can spend hours in a stadium that sounds like 10,000 Jet Engines got together and decided to have an *****? Who would even consider that?

Marcel LJ says Thompson is feeling more confident every day and with every snap Says that he feels he got a little taste of "Playoff Atmosphere" in their "win or go home" game at Hard Rock stadium against the Jets. I. Can't. Even. Playoff Atmosphere. Hardrock Stadium. Jets. Oh, dear.... More quotes here: https://www.espn.com/blog/miami-dolphins/post/_/id/34038/dolphins-rookie-skylar-thompson-leaning-on-jets-game-as-he-prepares-for-first-playoff-start Hola, Skyler. Came pretty damned close: https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/202201150buf.htm Oh, Skyler .......

Meanwhile the City of Miami:

So I just found this Well, All Righty Then.

"Boo-boo foot" = snide nickname for Sammy Watkins when he was on the Bills. In retrospect, probably undeserved because he was genuinely hurting, except IIRC he later admitted he caused his lingering foot problems by going against doctor's advice and training too soon. I just find it ironic that Watkins, in particular, who took a lot of heat including, apparently, from coaches who felt he was malingering, and who looks more like a TE than a WR at this point because he hasn't taken the best care of his body, is criticizing another player for not playing through an injury that could literally ruin that other player's career if he plays with laxity in his knee and blows it out.

Anyone else besides boo-boo foot?

I was struggling to say something like this and you put it really well. Thank you.

I think that locker rooms are a melting pot and in general more tolerant of differences than the general public. I mean, if it's true that 60-80% of the players identify as Christian, that means 20-40% don't, right?

Exactly. Emergency responders and doctors and nurses fight their hardest for everyone. Just imagine how horrid for someone to lose a loved one and have it implied there wasn't enough prayer or it wasn't high enough quality prayer or something.

The mocking Tim Tebow received had to do with him being a bad QB while making a huge public deal out of his Christian faith, and not about him being a Christian per se. The majority of football players are devout Christians according to their lights. A survey a few years back found that 3/4 of starting NFL QB were evangelical Christians. I think it was found there's a similar proportion of Christians (if not evangelical) among the rest of the players, 60-70%. One of the Bills players mentioned 'Chapel' when explaining his Saturday schedule before Sunday games, so we know the Bills hold regular services for the players the night before the game as well as having a chaplain available to them on the sidelines and at practices and just in the facility to talk. So I don't think anyone mocks players for being Christian per se, or ever has done. There are a lot of players who are forthright about being Christian - Kurt Cousins, Kurt Warner before him, Russ Wilson, on the Bills Dawson Knox, Cody Ford, Zack Moss, 'Zo Alexander held bible studies at his house, and so forth. Diggs used to wear tiny crosses as earrings. Von Miller dropped to one knee to pray the first time he walked on the field at Highmark before signing as a Bill. There are prayer circles before and after games. The thing with Tebow was he puffed it up a lot: the mission trips, the public "I'm a virgin" proclamations, the Bible verses on his eye black, "Tebowing" on the sidelines. He reportedly monetized it by charging $50,000 per engagement to speak at churches. Then it got to the point where no one could question him as a player (and the Broncos coaches had plenty of reason to question) without being called "anti-Christian" while ministers were attributing Broncos wins to "divine favor" because they were playing Tebow. When there are devout believers on both sides of the ball, does it seem right to believe that God picks sides? Give praise to God after a win, sure, but attribute? St Louis kinda went through this with Warner (who, by the way, was NOT mocked for being Christian) when his wife Brenda went on a local radio station and said her husband was being benched because the coaches were opposed to his Christian Faith. No, Brenda, the coaches were against your husband fumbling 6 times in Game 1 of the 2003 NFL season. It's hard to win in the NFL when you turn the ball over 4 times and luck that there weren't 3 more. Fun fact, Josh's GF started self-identifying as "Christian" on her Insta a couple years back. Her brother was part of the ministerial staff at a church somewhere in the SE for a while; his insta handle is "Jordan the REDEEMED". So I suspect this is something that's been moving around below the surface for Josh for a while.

Couple notes I took: (not necessarily in sequence of the podcast) Skyler Thompson -struggling to process what he sees both before and after the snap -worked the wrong side of the formation based on routes vs coverage -unrefined as a progression reader -Dolphins tried to run in-breaking timing routes with Hill and Waddle which were Tua's "bread and butter" and he didn't hit them -pressure looks and late rotation in coverage seemed to give him problems -some mobility -will look to leave the pocket, and gain yards with his feet when play breaks down, have to be aware of that and keep him from running for 10 yds on 3rd and 8. -a week of practice as the starter will surely change what he can do and help him play better, but ? how much Dolphins offense -played 12 and 21 personnel total of >50% of the snaps against the Jets -use a lot of 21 even with Tua, McDaniel's background with 49ers who use 21 with Juszczyk >40% of snaps -"don't think that will get them the mis-matches they want with the Bills vs other teams" because the Bills live in Nickel and an "over" front (meaning 3T DT is lined up to TE side) -McDaniel is going to have to "manufacture" offense, so expect him to pull out all the stops like the flea-flicker to AJ Green AZ scored with vs. the 49ers Bills defense -had one of their worst games of run D against the Dolphins, allowed DTs to be "moved off their spots" and OL got to 2nd level and blocked Milano and Edmunds -Bills really need to clean that up -talk again about how Bills live in Nickle 99% of the time because Johnson-Edmunds-Milano allow them to be multiple in their looks and Johnson can play the run like a LB Bills offense -Brown asks if he thinks the Dolphins might play as the Patriots did to really limit Josh Allen running and keep him in the pocket -Cosell never really answers this but points out that the Dolphins did use a spy on Allen. Goes into a long discussion about how you can never predict when Josh will leave the pocket because Josh will leave the pocket for no particularly good reason and then make throws. Says it comes down to a balance between precision and instinct. Long discussion about Josh's interceptions and coaching him ensues. It was interesting but listen for yourself. Says the concern he sees for the Bills is if McDaniel manages to manufacture enough offense to get the Dolphins up by 10 points, the "feel" of the game changes and you start pressing (my word) instead of just "playing your game" (his words). Tasker agrees and says "yeah, you start trying feel like you need to do things you wouldn't ordinarily do, you start trying to hit a grand slam with no men on base". ---------------------- I thought the bit about the Bills run game was interesting, because my perception was that aside from Mostert's 67 yd run and 2-3 other 10-yd-ish runs, the Bills run D just wasn't that porous. I had to go to NexGen charts to check my memory: Obviously every play counts, but it's a bit of a different situation if a couple missed tackles allow a long run vs. if the team is really getting gashed over and over again for 8-10 yds a pop. And don't get me wrong, they were uncharacteristically porous, but I think most of the longer runs were outside the tackles.

I read this board. Even with a healthy bag of a Baker's Dozen in my "Ignore" file....Yes. I'm quite sure. You do realize part of what you bolded like I was saying it, was actually direct quote from Dawkins' Players Tribune piece? I guess he has angst. PS: some reason you edited out this part of my post?

Right, so was Beasley, as well as playing basketball. Executing plays is different.