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LOL you don’t get to choose I think McDermott feels Frazier deserves a shot, and Frazier feels he deserves a shot, but someone who is hiring a HC has to agree I tend to agree with you In fact, if I were Dorsey, I would be “No Thanks, More to Learn First” but There are only 32 of these jobs in the world, and people who eventually want one, tend to seize any offer they get

That INT had to be huge for his confidence. It's the half-speed cuts and COD that have me thinking "playing scared" because he looks faster and smoother in the occasional clips we see of practice. But you're right, who knows? if it's physical, mental or both. I did think Tre was very affected by what happened with Hamlin. He pretty well acknowledged what a trauma it's been to him after the game. I think he's getting surgery this week

I mean, were they wrong? That was a pretty questionable "horse collar tackle" on Q Williams that gifted the Fins a 1st down on what would have been 3rd and 7, and put them into eventual FG range And that's against Joe freakin' Flacco who was looking kinda cooked back in 2018.

This is WAY too convoluted for me. 0) I don't give a rat's whisker what Miami fans think of us Bills fans or this site. Regarding the Fins: 1) The Fins had to cook our brains to win by 2 points in September when we were starting Jaquan Johnson at safety and lost Benford halfway thru the game, not to mention our starting C the whole game, then our OL dropping like flies to the point where we had a guy playing the final series on a torn ACL. 2) I didn't think the 2nd game "felt" as close as it actually was in terms of the score. We gave up a big play for a TD to Waddle, on what seemed to be miscommunication/broken coverage; then we had them punting on 4th and 10 and wound up gifting them a 1D on a totally assinine RTK penalty on Cam Lewis. which led to a go-ahead TD and gave the Fins the lead for the 1st time in the game with 2:30 left in the 3rd 3) Then, we let them widen their lead with a strip-sack 4) After that, we pulled our heads out of our asses and got to work by tieing with a TD/2 pt and grinding out a long drive with a FG to win I think Raheem Mostert was huge for MIA because he posed a good run threat just by himself. I don't know if MIA has as good of a run threat relying on ?Wilson and ?Ahmed?. Though Wilson did have a good game against the Jets. For the Bills, going into the 2nd MIA game down a guard, then losing Morse halfway through and needing to have the backup G switch to 3rd string C while a T played G was a big cause of the 3Q punt-a-palooza in the 3rd and the strip sack, but we sorted it out eventually. Having our OL healthy is big for us. We were able to limit Hill OK playing with Jaquan Johnson at Safety and half the game with a PS rookie CB during our 1st meeting. So I'm not happy about being down to our 3rd string at Safety, and I wish they'd sort what to do as far as playing order for Jackson and Elam, but we've managed before. I think Tua is a good QB when he's "on", but I'm not sure it's in his interest to play, though I'm sure he wants to. There was talk he may have "fudged" his baseline concussion testing to make it easier to pass (supposedly Alabama is known for this), making it a poor diagnostic tool. I think MIA has the potential to be a better team than their 9-8 record suggests, but there's the saying "you are what your record says you are" too, and 5 of the Fins losses came with Tua playing. In fact, the Fins have more losses with Tua playing than with Bridgewater + Thompson playing. Hopefully we keep our heads out of our arses, keep our OL in the game, and play smart.

So right now, Shakir gets about 18 snaps and 1 target per game - 1 target per 18 offensive plays on the field McKenzie gets about 37 snaps per game, and gets just over 4 targets per game - or around twice the targets Shakir gets. That would beg the question "why?" to me? You could get into conspiracy stuff where the coaches are just stupid and unfairly keeping Shakir off the field while giving McKenzie snaps he hasn't earned in practice or play because he's "earned it" through longevity, or you could assume that the coaches are distributing playing time according to what they see in practice and in games and McKenzie has earned it there. McKenzie has been averaging ~3 receptions and 30 ypg which ain't good. Shakir around 11.5 ypg and 0.7 receptions per game, which even if you double it, is lower production than McKenzie per target, so....would he do more, if he got more snaps and more targets? IDK. I do know I'd like to see Shakir come on, because Lord knows we need more out of our WRs than we've had at times, and I'd like to feel like our WR development pipeline has some "flow" to it. Because it's cold, he said 🙄 I mean, he has 20 receptions for 102 yds against Buffalo this season....which sounds scary except that was over 2 games. He's gonna get some catches and some yards,but we did kind of limit him. Now maybe being down to our 3rd string safety and Tre White (IMO) playing scared will cause problems, IDK. I guess I could type less and just say "IDK"

So TBH - I find the distinction between Stage 3 and Stage 4 to be a little "Fuzzy" https://static.www.nfl.com/image/upload/v1629471746/league/umfva5wnr32ozmukz5jd.pdf Stage 3 says the player can practice with the team for 30 minutes of "sport specific exercise" Stage 4 says the player participates in "non contact football activities" (throwing catching and running). Difference? Anyway, if Tua is in Stage 3, he can practice on Weds with a red no-contact jersey, and assuming no adverse effects, be cleared on Thursday.

It was a really good catch. He came back to the QB and all. Nicely done, and a nice YAC too. "Near big play" we don't count those for Davis or the other guys I mean, we're all waiting for that, right? Every since Crowder and McKenzie both went out vs. the Ravens, and Shakir had 2 really nice catches for 23 yds, and then couldn't play the following week vs. the Steelers and Shakir had 3 catches on 5 targets for 75 yds AND a nice KR. We were all like "OK, Here We Go, Shakir!" For whatever reason, it hasn't been working out. He sees his snaps - has been averaging about 18 per game - occasionally I see him open, or see him blocking, and he gets an average of 1 target per game. But I also see him signalling "open" when he's clearly not and sometimes whiffing blocks and stuff (see more good blocks as the season goes on). Honest questions: what does "earned it" in quotes mean, and what does "this kind of stuff" mean?

So I wonder what "in the building" means to access

Correct

McKenzie: 2 receptions on 3 targets. 56% of the snaps (33 snaps) Shakir: 1 reception on 2 targets 25% of the snaps (15 snaps) McKenzie has kind of been a bit of a Patriot killer or at least a Patriot kneecap biter - 5 receptions on 5 targets, 44 yds in earlier meeting this season, 11 receptions on 12 targets for 125 yds in 2nd meeting last season, 3 receptions on 3 targets and 3 rushes for 74 yds/scrimmage last season's playoff game. So I would think Belicheck would have tried to limit him. I would LOVE to see Shakir flourish and prove that Beane's WR talent pipeline for this team is alive and well, but what exactly have you seen that leads you to be "unsurprised" if Shakir rises to "the top of the depth chart"?

Um, there is normally no football activity on Monday for guys who did not play. The most football activity there is for anyone is "corrections" of mistakes and miscues, done in shells, for players who played the previous game. Then Tuesday is a normal "NFL Day Off". Players may get medical treatment, do a light lift or "recovery" aerobics. Not until Wednesday will we know whether or not Tua is participating in practice or any football activities. But not participating M or T means little.

Just a gentle reminder that you, and you, and you (looking around the board) can all show agency. I would not for a moment diminish the power of Faith and Prayer, but as a friend of mine once said - "sometimes Prayer works best with tools in your hands and skill to use them". Learn CPR, and support the public availability of AEDs at schools, amateur sporting events, professional sporting venues, libraries, and yes, houses of Worship.

Thought that's what the beer and the bowling ball shots were for

OK, listened to the press conference. A few notes: -the Doctors referred a couple times to "a transport" and "a transport team", which is usually how medical professionals reference a flight with medical capabilities on board. I think it was referenced that one of the Bills team physicians and trainers had stayed in Cincinnati with Damar. My guess would be them, plus an emergency physician licensed to practice in Ohio, maybe an airway physician (just in case), a full "crash cart" of defibrillator, cardiac medications, intubation supplies, oxygen etc. I can't imagine anything else because it would be hella embarrassing if they save the guys life only to put him on a plane and have some rare altitude-induced complication take him down. Medical transport to airport, EMS-equipped transport flight to Buffalo, medical transport to Buffalo General. -Damar was extubated early Friday morning and walked his first "circuit" of the ICU that afternoon! -Criteria for release from ICU were all organ systems stable, no need for critical respiratory care or intensive nursing. He reached that milestone this am. -Defer to new care team in Buffalo for all plans regarding rehabilitation timeline, release from hospital, further testing and diagnosis -No damage to cervical spine, they emphasized "neurologically intact" and walking with normal gait (although still quite weak) -Deflected all questions about whether he would be able to RTP in the NFL: said it's premature to discuss RTP until diagnosis is complete -Deferred questions about his rehab plan and whether he could return to Highmark as a spectator during playoffs, to his new care team of physicians in Buffalo. I hope they put him in a great big room at Buffalo General to accommodate all the teammates who want to visit him, otherwise the Bills are gonna have to be playing rock-paper-scissors or drawing lots.

I can see it now. Damar: "When can I leave here and go see my boys?" Doctors making Sunday rounds: "Patience, Damar, you're still pretty weak. Let us take care of you until you're a little stronger." [Later that day: Damar jumps up and down and screams like a normal Bills fan watching the game, setting off every alarm in the ICU] Doctors making Monday rounds: "OK, Damar, You Can Go Now" https://www.koat.com/article/damar-hamlin-update-doctors/42435123 link to video conference

article https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/live-uc-doctors-give-update-on-damar-hamlin-s-condition/ar-AA168nN0 Not that it means it's the same cause, but worth noting that this is pretty much the timeline the Lewiston man who suffered Commotio Cordis at a college baseball practice followed after he was resuscitated following cardiac arrest: 3 days unconscious on a ventilator, 6 days in hospital. (can't find the story right now but it was in TBN and I linked it somewhere upthread) Damar can walk, he can talk, he can set off all the monitors in the ICU jumping up and down when Nyheim Hines scores a TD, he can do anything!

I could be wrong, but my guess would be either the team arranged a medical transport flight for him or the Pegulas sent the jet along with a team of doctors

Not exactly, has been transferred to hospital in Buffalo, NY Still very very good news - no longer in critical condition, obviously I must not understand the hospital landscape in Buffalo - he's at Buffalo General and not ECMC? Why would that be? I think the only way they could have kept him from watching, would have been to sedate him again

Except of course when he comes up huge for the Bills. Like with 171 yds and 2 TD or 6 catches for 93 yds and a TD or 4 catches for 88 yds and a TD or last year at KC 8 catches for 201 yds and 4 TDs --------------- Davis has averaged 55.7 ypg That's actually #34 in the league for ypg, which matters to evaluating a WR #2 in the league for Y/R right behind Jaylen Waddle and ahead of AJ Brown #20 in the league for TDs He's a good WR by a number of metrics, taken overall --------------- Here's the problem We want him to be a great WR We want him to be Higgens to Chase We want him to be Juju Smith-Schuster to Kelce We want him to be AJ Brown to DaVonte Smith We want him to be Thielen to Jefferson or even We want him to be Waddle to Hill and he isn't, or at least he hasn't been to date It's really about the drops and the balls that he could have caught, but didn't; the way he hasn't been able to show that "toe drag swag" this season ------------------ I don't know what's up. The WR seem to love Chad Davis as a coach But frankly, I have not been as impressed with our WR overall this year vs. last - the little things, the route running details, the toe taps, the focus I don't know if it's coaching, or if when Sanders retired and Beasley left, something shifted in the room

Is the Miami media hooking up the excuse train or something? Sorry, but with our all-pro safety on season ending IR, his replacement who has been playing reasonably in the ICU, our all-pro DE on season ending IR, one of our 3T DTs who was having a good year, looking physically unable to use one arm yesterday, and two of our WR on IR such that we’re playing guys who were sitting at home before we signed them to PS out of retirement…..my heart does not bleed for the poor dolphins. My nose does, but I got a Kleenex for that.

FWIW this chap broke down all Davis targets vs NE. Now, the thing we don’t know when “Josh threw behind him twice…..threw him too far to the sideline once” is, to what extent are those throws the result of Davis not reading the defense the same way as Josh, thus not running the route as Josh expects him to run it? Or, just not running the route as Josh expects? That is always the unanswered question whenever a WR and the ball don’t wind up in the same place at the same time. It’s a mistake, but whose?

OK to you “bench Davis start Brown” guys Nothing anyone says will likely reach you. Sorry, but when a guy’s been out of football and sitting at home, it’s not because he’s a “sleeper” to take over as #2 80% of the snaps WR. To anyone else, Cover1 just started putting up a bunch of analysis on Twitter in response to Joe Marino and others

CNN reporting that Hamlin expects to be released from hospital soon “per source” https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/09/sport/buffalo-bills-damar-hamlin-recovery-monday-spt/index.html

And Here We Go!

I think you can bet whatever that McDaniel will be trying his very durnedest to keep that decision under wraps and force Buffalo to prepare for 3 QB I wish you’d change the title of your thread though. “Miami’s onto Buffalo” has a double-meaning that Miami might “have Buffalo’s number” or have “cracked the code” of the Bills. Hope not!