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Here’s some stuff from Banged Up Bills about Crowder: Article Earlier in the year (and with less detail about the specifics of the injury) Trimble was not sanguine about Crowder being able to return. In any event there’s a long way between jogging down the sideline in a straight line, vs being able to burst off the line and cut effectively.

From this, it kind of sounds as though the ACL was not fully torn. It sounds as though they did a “clean up” procedure to remove torn lateral meniscus, but while they were in there noticed there decided the ACL was injured and wouldn’t hold up?

I could be wildly mistaken, but in this day and age, I don’t know why the player would be traveling from town to town shopping for the best deal on his contract. That’s what they have agents for, and videoconferencing, and the ability to share documents on the internet securely.

I could be wrong but if Von was in Dallas on Monday and having exploratory surgery yesterday, would Miller really be back to Buffalo already?

I have total sympathy for the Cowboys players quoted upthread who talked about it being a “circus” It seems the guy is not ready to play this season, so why not just finish healing up, get right, and enter FA like the rest of the guys? He’s too special for that….

Disguised coverage pretty good session on Bills vs Jets I just hope we actually do have Milano

Oh, c’mon. Our media does ask follow-ups sometimes - sometimes not the same guy, but one further down in the queue Shame if they missed on this one though. Schedule a hot shower at a truck stop, change to warm clothes, get a thermos of coffee, you’ll be “good to go”

But if the real Jim Kubiak was kidnapped by aliens and replaced by a replicant how would you know? The differences could be subtle - like praising a play where Allen got his man-parts drilled and his and said afterwards “we need to be smarter” about it, maybe? ARE YOU SURE?

LOL. When I had my first kid, I got sick every year too. I attributed it to daycares and schools being little germ factories and kids being little plague vectors. As the kid got older and her and my immune system got tougher (about age 6 or 7 IIRC) I stopped getting sick so much. I”m told if the kids change schools, it’s “open season” for a new set of bugs but she never did.

Can anyone confirm: Milano DNP today with a knee, but McDermott described him as “Day to Day”? How did he describe Jordan Phillips? He’s got 4 days to “get right”, but I think Afrin is more likely than Dayquil

Concur. Looks like it too

One difference is that we peons are left to recover on our own, while pro athletes I'm sure get the best antivirals plus IV therapy to speed their recovery. My daughter had the flu last year. So did one of her friends, but said friend's mom scheduled her for those IVs from a traveling nurse. Made a big difference.

OK, I didn't see this upthread but someone has to ask it: Having just had a player take a full year to come back from an ACL rehab (and still not be 100% and now a second player go onto season ending IR with an ACL, where "if all goes well" we hope he'll be back for "most of 2023" - Brandon Beane, do you REALLY want to offer a contract to a 30 year old guy rehabbing his 2nd ACL in 2 years, who THINKS he can be ready to play AFTER the end of the season (5 weeks), and who wants to be signed for more than this season?

I wonder what Tre' White would have said if asked "when can you be ready to play?" at the start of the season or even "when will you be game-ready?" October 12 when the Bills opened his 21 day window to return from PUP? I'm not sure the player's judgement is always the best guide here

LOL No. An injury settlement happens when the team puts the player on season-ending IR cuz they don't want to use up one of their designated "return from IR" slots on him, the player is like "I think I can play this season", so the team and the player's rep agree to pay him a salary equal to how many weeks he actually needs to rehab his injury. It especially happens with young players who don't have full salary guarantees for injury and who want a chance to play for another team and collect their full salary

Not to my experience, though I guess more so in US than in Europe (esp. Scandinavia) where you'll see people dining outdoors in 30 degree weather I think it might be because in colder climes, you have to actually DO something outside. Even if you have a heated garage and hire a snow removal service for your driveway, you may need to shovel your porch and sidewalk. Then the kids all want to run around and make snow angels and snowmen and snow forts. I travel to the West coast and see people wearing down jackets when it's 50 degrees out (while I'm in shorts and sandals). I don't see that in Buffalo (but maybe I'm blind) and around my kid's college campus it was pretty common to see kids dressed pretty lightly in what I thought was cool or cold weather (of course, then there were the International students from Dubai who were wearing 2 sweaters a down vest and a parka in October....) Then there was the time we were in S. Florida over Christmas. We took our kid to a beach, where we were sitting around in our swimsuits building a sand castle with her. It was maybe low 70s and a bit cloudy. This lifeguard jogged by wearing leggings and a fleece hoodie, stopped and did a double take. "Where are you folks from?" "Midwest" "Oh. That would explain it."

I get so annoyed when I see tacklers trying that on Josh Allen while the refs stand by

I think it's the fair route to allow the kid a reasonable chance to develop as a football player. On IR, I believe a player can attend meetings and watch practices. But they can't actually participate in practice. That's what this guy needs. There's a real question with Stevenson as to whether he's ready to be an NFL-level football player. Can he play "up to" his 40 time? Can he follow blockers? Can he release? Can he track the ball? So if he's healthy enough to participate in practice, and he wants to be a football player, bringing him back from IR is the only option,but if he isn't ready to be an NFL football player, the Practice Squad is where he belongs. We seem to have the KR/PR spot locked down now with reasonable backups for both positions. If we liked what we saw from John Brown's 12 snaps vs. NE, he was just outplayed for the last seat on the gameday roster, so we may not be concerned if Stevenson gets claimed on Waivers. I read that was the intent, but of course if someone claims Stevenson on waivers then he's gone.

Of course he does. That's what Trolls do. They hurdle expectations based on logic and reason like Josh Allen sailing over a low blocker.

I can't speak for SC, but my experience of friends and family living in Texas, S. Florida etc is that they are total wimps when it comes to weather. Far from "getting used to" the heat and humidity, they go from air conditioned homes to air conditioned garages, push the garage door opener, drive to a shaded parking garage and take the air conditioned elevator to their building lobby where they work in an air conditioned office all day. On the way home, they remote start their car so it cools down before they get in. They have no heat tolerance at all. Put in a normal situation like a day that gets up to the high 80s/low 90s, they decline to do reasonable, enjoyable stuff like walk around a shady zoo during the day or eat on a covered screened porch with a fan blowing when it's cooled to the high 70s/low 80s. We had a friend's brother from Texas stay in our apartment in Boston for our friend's graduation. We had a nice small guest room with a window and a fan. We had a single room air conditioner in the living room. He slept in the living room and left it only to pee or get food from the fridge. It was kind of a PITA because we didn't have much common space and he slept late/went to bed early, but he was totally un-acclimated to anything above 70 degrees. This was late MAY. It's a slow week. We've run out of Odell Beckham gossip We won't get a Bills injury report until later today to find out if the Get Well Cards for Dawkins and Quessenberry's ankles are having some effect.

I. Had. Not. Heard. That. Before. I almost spit out my coffee laughing. Kinda fits though

Maybe if their team didn't raise bad sportsmanship to epic heights by making the visiting team risk heatstroke whilst they enjoy relative coolness in the shade, Bills fans wouldn't have that reaction.

Every one, starting from 2019 or whenever he began. LIke @Thurman#1, my point escaped you. Yes, he loves Josh Allen, but he's previously been objective and able to be critical of bad decisions Josh makes. Slowly, the bars have shifted for him as he's seen Josh able to get away with canonical "bad QB decisions/throws" that other QB can't make, but Josh has proven he can make. (Warner has undergone a similar process) But here we have a play that makes my stomach churn every time I see a replay, that Josh himself said "That one hurt a little bit, we've got to be smarter", and he's lauding it. Replicant, I tell you. Alien abduction.

This isn't about Josh running and taking a hit, even a hard hit. This is about Josh trying to jump over a guy who is not going low, and is accompanied by 2 teammates making it a "pile of defenders". He took a hard helmet to his privates and, while 3 defenders were tackling him, had another come up and slam him in the head. Postgame, when talking to the Thursday Night crew, Josh admitted it wasn't a good decision: Fitz: "He (Gonzalez) didn't like the hurdle in the first half either" Josh: "I didn't like it either. That one hurt a little bit. We'll be smarter on that one" It's been discussed in detail elsewhere. Neither of those statements are true. While it happened that all of Josh's injuries while trying to run have proven relatively minor and have not kept him out of the following game, that's largely a matter of luck. It's rationalization. Again, this isn't about Josh running. It's about Josh making stupid decisions and taking unnecessary punishment while running, instead of minimizing that.

You’re missing my point to fixate on an adverb. Kubiak normally is critical of Allen putting himself (and the Bills season) at unnecessary risk with physical punishment. You’re exactly correct, he’s complimentary here, and does not comment on the injury risk. The point of the adverb is if you look at the play closely, 1) Allen appears to try to hurdle McCourty with 2 other defenders very close 2) in fighting for extra yards by trying to hurdle or jump over the defenders, he exposes his head to punishment from a defender. Kubiak would normally critique that That’s why I believe he’s been abducted by aliens and replaced by a replicant. 😃 Prove me wrong Yes. That play made me shudder. I really thought he was going to be sent to the tent and taken out of the game the way his head took a blow. His groin must also be one big bruise. Actually, Allen’s first couple years here he would nitpick his throwing technique (he pretty much stopped that after 2020) and critique a number of his decisions - for example, he still points out that QB are normally taught not to throw from the sideline back across the middle of the field, In Allen’s first few years he would have criticized that decision, now he accepts that Allen can make it work. So Allen has earned his respect and the benefit of the doubt there