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That's far from the point. But people are defending "Diva behavior" from Diggs as justified and an understandable response to the Bills offensive play, and that just doesn't fit the actual context of what we're seeing. I don't want to get rid of Diggs, but I think he needs to be more mindful of the pressure his behavior puts on his QB and the impact it may have on his WR teammates. He has literally twice as many targets and more than twice as many receptions as the Bills next guy, so it indeed makes him look like a Diva. No one wants to get rid of him over it.

Once again: the offense was hardly "cumulatively stagnant" at the point when Diggs reacted. And the struggles they did have on that drive, were on the OL. But that's not what he's doing. He's not saying "I got you, get it to me I'll make you right" in the huddle or on the bench and then moving on. He is very visibly and publicly second-guessing his QB after the play and making his displeasure and dissatisfaction obvious. There is nothing constructive about how he's handling this. It's putting extra pressure on Josh at a point when the D is already giving him all he can handle or more.

We seem to be defending his very visible very public prolonged and extending onto the sidelines hissy fits over not getting targeted when he thinks he should. I have no knock on Diggs, but I think he needs to "step away" from the in-game drama.

I wasn't aware anything had happened to Klein, if you're talking about a potential injury? If you're talking about playing time, nothing happened to him. Bills played nickel close to 100% of the time and Milano and Edmunds played 100% of the snaps. Bernard and Klein played ST.

I think this is strong projection on your part. It doesn't fit the observation of when Diggs does or does not have his little hissy reactions. Among other things, it was only like 4 minutes into the 3Q, and as I pointed out, the Bills offense was not "stagnant", they had just moved the ball 42 yards in 4 plays.

I'm sure he wants to win, but he's also 3rd in the league in receptions and yards right now - with Tyreek Hill, #2, ahead of him, on the opposite side of the ball. I think it's highly naive to think he "just wants to win" and doesn't care about touches or stats. If he "just wants to win", he should be happy when Josh throws a completion short or hands the ball off, and we move the chains.

Can you provide examples of this happening when Diggs has had his frustration fits? Spoiler: you can't. For one thing, even if that is, in fact, what's happening when Diggs is having these fits: in the moment, he is not "watching" it. He is minding his own store and running his own routes then reacting. He has no idea if the other receiver just dropped the ball, was interfered with, caught a pass that was ruled incomplete, or the DB just made a good PD. He's not watching replays on the big screen and then having a fit - he is open, he knows he's open, and he's reacting immediately because he was open and not targeted and he thinks he should be. That's "Me Ball", not "We Ball". Allen was 16 of 23 and the Bills were 5 of 6 on 3rd down conversions in the first half with 3 TDs. The Bills were executing in the 1st half. At the point where Diggs had his hissy, the Bills had just driven from their own 25 to the Mia 33 in 4 plays. Guys were executing. The one who just missed catching a pass was Diggs himself, but that wouldn't have mattered because of OH call. The "hissy" play didn't matter because of OH. Diggs is not just some selfless team guy who reacts like that only when his WR buds screw up and he could save the day. That doesn't match what we actually see. I think Diggs would have eventually been more open, but as you note, Allen didn't have time.

LOL it's too bad McDaniel doesn't lend himself to "What Is Jim Ir SAYING? " like Pat McAfee did when Reich was fired. I think what another coach would say is: "We played hard and they just made a couple more plays than we did. The other team gets paid, too. It's hard to win in the NFL. On to Green Bay." I think what he means is, "I told the team at the beginning of the season, you have to be strong-minded and stay confident when things don't go your way. Every game, even when they execute and play well, every team is vulnerable. The other team is vulnerable every week. We're vulnerable every week. Embrace that, and just relax and play football".

I disagree. I thought the refs were letting a lot of stuff go, especially on the Dolphins OL. There was one play where Milano went flying through the air involuntarily, I was like "you can't do that to a LB when you're on OL". Dolphins had 8 penalties for 51 yds. Bills had 7 penalties for 51 yds.

That was a horrible look. First of all, need to see all-22 but pretty sure Diggs came open later than McKenzie did. Yes, Digs was eventually more open and an easier throw, but I'm not sure he'd started his cut when Josh had to throw, and throwing into the middle of the field when you don't yet know if your receiver will get tripped or held or just slip is how you get picked. Second of all, it didn't matter who got the target or even if they got the catch, because there was a holding penalty and the catch would have been nullified. Third, sorry Diggs, but Josh has been taking his shots to the deepest man all season, stop whining when that isn't you.

Agree. Has to be realized that Van Roten is essentially our 3rd string C. The Truth

I disagree. I think they do go with the "irrefutable evidence" standard. Yes, I agree. They seem to be back to micro-analysing "did the ball move at all?" on those sideline catches.

I share your frustration and your apparent belief that "c'mon, that was a catch" but, it wasn't overturned. It was ruled incomplete on the field, I think by a ref who didn't see that McKenzie got a knee down before he went OOB. Then after that they got into microanalysis of hand placement and ball movement - ridiculous. I think if it had been ruled a catch, it would not have been overturned - that "conclusive evidence" thing. The announcers keep talking as though they have. Same deal on the Poyer interception that was ruled incomplete OOB because "the ball moved". Is it something about a catch OOB? Because I thought like you did, that there was no longer supposed to be this minute "did the ball move even the teeny tinyest bit" microanalysis. That was a problem. I need to look at the all-2, I think that was a route running error.

No. Literally: No. No one can. QBR is a "frankenstat" created by ESPN in an attempt to measure QB efficiency: I've heard it's calculated with something like 10,000 lines of code and no one really understands what goes into it, or comes out of it. They've tried to tinker with it to avoid ridiculous numbers as called out above, but it's still...got its quirks. Part of the problem is that it includes metrics like how much pressure the QB is under, a bunch more stuff that is relatively subjective. So if the subjective metrics aren't assessed accurately, GIGO applies.

They stress a defense in a different way. Waddle and Hill are just *****in' fast. It's ridiculous, especially when the field is a bit slick and defenders lose a big step every time they cut. But Tua still needs to prove he can find them consistently near the sidelines, and he does get less accurate when he's moved off his spot and made uncomfortable. Chase, Higgins, and Boyd are excellent receivers and their passing game is *chef's kiss* designed to scheme them open and make the defenders "wrong" whatever they do. Burrows is a tough SOB and happy to move around and can sling it, everywhere.

After his 2020 concussion (his most recent one) reporters were kind of hinting at that to Morse. Morse said something to the effect of, he was just fine, and if he got another concussion he'd be just fine, because they're doing things right. By which I took him to mean, he didn't fudge his baseline testing but gave it honest effort so it takes him out when he ought to come out, and won't let him in when he isn't recovered yet.

We won, so I got what I'm wanting! But Yes on the more diverse passing game. Not just to RBs (8 targets combined), but to Knox (8 targets) and Morris, to the slots (6 targets) - spreading the ball around. I thought it opened things up for Davis (6 targets) and for Diggs (9 targets). We overall moved the ball better, and in the end, Everybody Ate. Josh threw to 9 different guys. I would have liked to see more running game from backs not named Josh Allen, but after we were playing with 2 backup OLmen all bets were off. You?

You know, the Other Team Gets Paid too. Maybe they made adjustments at half, and we had to adjust to their adjustments on offense. Do you need it pointed out that losing Morse, having a jailbreak every snap, and holding penalties are all related? It's not "our guys get sloppy with penalties" like they were thinking about what they'd eat after the game or sleepy from the half time chicken soup and orange slices. They were struggling badly without Morse and with Van Roten at center and Quessenberry at RG. I agree with the others that "survive and keep hope alive" seems appropriate for a team in the hunt for a WC spot, not the #1 AFC seed (at the moment) who just clinched a playoff spot with 3 games to go.

To be fair there, in his post-win presser McDermott commented on "throwing a TD with zero left on the clock - he's lucky he threw a TD or he and I would have had a conversation. I might have let the air out of his tires", so our HC seemed to agree that the clock management was sub-optimal there. He did keep cracking a smile after every stern and negative thing he said though . As Josh would say "the best conviction is completion" I can't say I thought they were good, but it was the pre-game and post-game hosts (aka "goldilocks and the 3 bears") that made me fly for the mute buttton. Good Lord Almighty, make it stop" Goldilocks needed a whip and a chair to keep Smith and MJD in line and Michael Robinson was trying to channel Kyle Brandt for Full Bore Bills Homer and failing. I missed that, when was that?

McDermott's presser is worth a listen. He was asked about the offensive series at the end of the 2nd half. He's like "yeah, throw a touchdown with 0 left on the clock" Deadpanned that Josh was lucky he threw a touchdown or "he and I would have had a talk". Joked he might have let the air out of his tires.

I realized that afterwards, you're right.

Not just that but prior to that, and well before the ball got there, defender shoved McKenzie back

I kind of wondered if the Josh Allen no intentional grounding were a bit of a "make up call" for the missed push off on Tre White. Ref kibbutzing with McDaniel on the sideline for a long time coming back from halftime and when asked what the convo was about, saying smugly to the reporter "just maintaining a cordial professiona relationship" yeah, Right.

But But But... McKenzie only had 2 catches on 5 targets! (never mind that on one of the incompletions, we were Robbed and on the other, he was Mugged and drew the DPI). No, he isn't a great WR or even a very good WR, but he's not garbage either "Dropsome" Knox, another favorite TBD whipping boy, 6 of 8 for 98 yds Gabe Davis, 4 of 6 for 58 yds, Solid, especially as a couple of them were over the middle of the field intermediate, where we doubt Gonna be interesting to see how Cole Beasley's snap count came out. 1 target, 1 reception but I thought I saw him on the field more than I expected Glad to see Quintin Morris and Nyheim Hines get touchdowns. Morris can run routes and catch the ball, wish we'd use him more. I was not happy with Stefon Diggs tantrum "I want the ball" on the one McKenzie target that was a good PBU. It's true that he was more open at one point in the play, but not sure it was clear he'd be able to reverse and come open at the point where Josh had to throw. That is NOT a good look, especially when he kept it up for a while on the sideline. I normally wouldn't comment on 5 of 9 receptions for 60 yds, because some of them were clutch and he's our best WR bar none - but if you want to have a tantrum when you aren't targeted, then you better have a 3rd gear to run under the deep ball and make a couple of those other contested catches. Edit: elsewhere it was pointed out, whether Diggs was targeted or McKenzie, whether they caught it or didn't, the ball was coming back on a holding penalty (declined on the incompletion). Which makes Diggs temper tantrum all the more dumbass.