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I think @JoPoy88 has it right. Beasley Luuuuuuuuves him his Twitter controversies. He can't stay off of it.

That's a pretty specific pair of criteria for evaluating WR. What about # of receptions, catch %, drops, Y/G, stuff like that? The # of TDs a WR has seems pretty heavily influenced by how the team operates and how they operate in the RZ vs the WR's overall contributions to the team. It just seems like cherry-picking a pair of metrics by which you can claim kudos for Davis, while ignoring things like # receptions, catch %, drops, Y/G and such which also are metrics of how a WR contributes, but where Davis doesn't measure up so well.

A top 5 #2 WR by what criteria? Goodness!

I'm not sure who you're debating with, but as far as I know, I haven't lobbied for drafting a G in the 1st. I would like to see us bring in a RT in FA, not a Big Shot guy but if possible, someone a bit better than Quessenberry who can challenge Brown. LB or Edge would make me very sad after the high-value picks used on these positions recently.

Could we draft a TE or a WR, please? Pretty please with sugar on it? It's St Paddy's day. Go for the Corned Beef and Cabbage. It's OK for Lent if you sprinkle it with Holy Water and chant "you were born a steer...you were raised a steer...and Now You're A Fish!"

Well, Miller is claiming he'll be back for the season, We'll See. IMO, the signing we may need is a 3TDT. The only one on the roster is Ed Oliver. If we get someone who can play both outside and in, that'd be good. If we're getting more pressure up the middle, it will give more chances to the DE we already have invested multiple #1 and #2 draft picks on. I know, I know. It comes from McDermott's rather fierce insistence in a rotation on DL. If the coaches take the view that the team must have 8 quality DLmen, it has the impact of requiring massive resources on DL in terms of draft picks and FA investment. It means we need to have 8 guys who are starting quality instead of 4 guys who are Beasts.

He can't reduce it too much. I guess it depends upon what you mean b y "much reduced salary". Of the $2.21M he saved on the cap, $450-475k was roster and workout bonuses. So his salary was $1.73 or $1.76M-ish (when you're a pro football player, what's $30k between friends?) Vet minimum for a player with 6 previous accrued seasons is $1.1M or $1.2M or something like that. Now, he could sign a vet salary benefit or vet cap benefit deal, where he gets paid $1.1 or $1.2M, whatever it is, but the Bills get charged for a 2nd year player, $940k My $0.02, that sounds rather ......... demotivational. "Hi, we're paying Stefon Diggs $14.875M this season, and we're paying the guy we signed to replace you $3.745M, but we know you bust your ass and bring a lot of energy to the team, so we cut you to save $1M - can we bring you back on a vet min deal?" Better to leave that one alone, I think, unless he retires and is asked to come back as an injury replacement.

Hmmm WR specifically, ie 2nd best WR on the team: Jaylen Waddle, DeVonta Smith, Tee Higgins, Chris Godwin, and Donovan Peoples-Jones. Broaden it a bit to receiver so you include TE, need to add Juju Smith Schuster (#2 behind TE Kelce); Kittle had more TD and Hockenson more yards. That would be about 8 teams with a better 1-2 punch. 2 of those 8 teams played in the AFCCG, so if it's an arms race (or maybe a hands race), Take Note. This is why people look at our offensive skill players and say "Not Good Enough". Releasing McKenzie? Yeah, $2.21M.

Pssst: SD doesn't have a team anymore I mean, there probably is something there in that the Bills have reached out to the agents of players they're interested in to ask what they have in mind as far as a contract, maybe toss around a counter offer or maybe say "thanks!" and hang up. Doesn't mean they were seriously pursuing the guys.

Hi. Rodgers did not win the MVP last season. In fact, he looked kinda bad. Now granted he was playing injured at times but so was Allen.

Exactly. If he had larger offers than we gave him, he wasn't that much "under the radar" 'cuz we paid him pretty well IMHO

I think that's actually what Spotrac reported. (rummage rummage) yeah, 3 years, $33M was their "market value" assessment. Pretty clear Poyer wanted to be paid like a top-10 or 12 safety and, well, that hasn't happened.

McKenzie killed Miami as well. If I were guessing, the Bills wanted to wait until Harty passed his physical with them and signed his contract before moving on from McKenzie, which I guess happened yesterday? I still think it's not the most courteous treatment for a guy who went hard for the Bills for 5 years, but Business is Business and Beane has to do what's best for the Bills. If Harty were that under the radar, we wouldn't have had to pay what we did for him.

I think they did expect the two of them to platoon in the role with McKenzie seeing more snaps against man and Crowder more snaps against zone. It was pretty clear that Josh did not trust McKenzie to be open vs. zone At All. (ditto for Shakir pretty much). The Bills paid McKenzie a little more but not significantly - $2M vs $2.25M I think, money that says "we aren't anointing either of you". Forgive me Father for I have Sinned What must I do to atone?

You left out the 2021 3 game suspension for drunk driving Look, obviously, the Bills aren't concerned about re-injury risk; they're paying him like a guy they expect to have available for 15-16 games. But, the fact is, he hasn't seen a very high workload to date. Let's leave out the turf toe season and just look at the season he was available. The Saints had 3107 offensive plays in those 3 seasons. Harty was on the field for 533 of them, 17%. In his career, he's also missed 40% of his possible games. Now maybe he'll be able to hold up and contribute if he's used more by the Bills (and his contract/incentives say they intend to give him a real shot at WR). Another perspective could look at Harty and say "he's had 4 years to make it through a full season, and for different reasons he hasn't managed yet". I hope that's wrong but I understand the logic. From what Beane was saying in his presser yesterday (2 days ago? losing track) it sounded as though they expected Shakir to be the #3 and Harty to be the #4 guy.

It’s not impossible, but I’m thinking Jacksonville is a possibility

I hope you’re right. It wouldnt entirely shock me if we used McK cap $$ to re-sign Kumerow or Taiwan Jones. Mind you I’m not suggesting this nor is it what I’d like to see

But fitting the observed sentiments.

Now you’re just making ***** up. That happened with Beasley, by the way. Josh improvised a pitch to McK that wasn’t in the play, and that’s never been one of the picks Josh was criticized for.

I can’t disagree but where is that “better” coming from, ask I

Harty? His contract drips “we intend to play you at WR” Will he be durable is my question

His contract about as low as it could go and not be vet minimum. His catch % 65% just fine for less gadget tosses and more use as WR. The reason he’s gone is that Bills are paying Harty 50% more to be an upgrade at the same position “durable fast Smurf”. The fast Smurf parts are for real, we’ll hope he hits the “durable upgrade”.

Why would he do that? And what would it really accomplish for Beane? He needs to know what he's spent, and like any other avenue of business, if it isn't in writing it doesn't count.

No word yet on contract. Just thought it was worth putting out there that Ford has been signed by one of the teams we keep extolling as a team we should emulate for their OL moves. https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/cincinnati-bengals/cody-ford-29074/

No. If they're earned, they count against next year's cap. In his presser, Beane said about $9M. He also made the point that they need space to sign the rookie class and to cover the PS once the regular season starts. But I think that's standard Beane poor-mouthing.