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Trevon Diggs trying to get his brother in Dallas
Beck Water replied to 78thealltimegreat's topic in The Stadium Wall
Stefon Diggs may not be demanding a trade or anything crazy like that (and the Bills would take way too much dead cap to trade him) - but his brother Trevon Diggs is certainly banging that drum "til he got blisters on his hand" -
Negative, I heard that interview, and I'm pretty sure that's not what Cosell was talking about at all. I believe what Cosell was talking about would be we'd have man-beater routes on one side and zone-beater routes on the other, but the timing of the reads wouldn't match up OR Josh would start his reads on the wrong side (zone side if it was actually man, man side if it was actually zone) - either way, guys weren't coming open in sequence as the reads progressed, so that by the time Josh would get to the other side of the field receivers who had uncovered were covered again. I think a better interview on it was one McKenzie did where he talked about he and Davis having "option routes" where they could both choose their routes based on defensive coverage provided they didn't interfere with each other. But, either the two of them weren't on the same page about route choice or how the routes were run so that they DID interfere with each other, or one or both of them weren't reading the defensive coverage correctly (thus not choosing a good route for the coverage), or, something else - but it clearly wasn't working correctly and they would wind up in the same area of the field, bringing defenders with them. OK, now maybe he can chart how often Shakir faced single man coverage? Because I think he faced a lot of zone (the Bills in general faced a lot of zone), and he wasn't open too much there.
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Yes, that stood out to me as well
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Trevon Diggs trying to get his brother in Dallas
Beck Water replied to 78thealltimegreat's topic in The Stadium Wall
Definitely agree with you there! -
Would you guys trade one of Elam/Benford/Jackson?
Beck Water replied to JerseyBills's topic in The Stadium Wall
I absolutely don't think trading a young CB on a cheap contract is a good move. CB is a high injury position, and as both this season and last season showed, the team is only a play away from losing a player for a game or a good part of the season. So quality depth at CB is far from a luxury. I believe both Beane and McDermott mentioned looking at moving Christian Benford to safety, which is definitely not a position where we have a surplus, especially with Hyde coming back from a neck injury and a lot of question marks in Damar Hamlin's playing future. I think the right player to trade is a guy who is either on a high-priced contract or about to become a high-priced contract. Ed Oliver, for example, if he is intriguing to another team. -
Bills sign S Zayne Anderson to a 2 year deal
Beck Water replied to Big Turk's topic in The Stadium Wall
You might want to distinctly revamp and revise your distinct remembrances because this guy has played zero, no, nada, 0, snaps on defense for the Chiefs in the last two seasons. Therefore, he can not have been burnt by Josh nor chased our receivers into the end zone. Therefore your memories are...mistaken Yes, he's an add with special teams in mind, and possibly also for some brain-picking about how the Chiefs prepare and pre-game for playoffs. Now that's a possibility. He's bigger (6'2", 206) than Jaquan (5'10", 191) and in fact was a "tweener" who played both LB and safety in college. -
Bills sign S Zayne Anderson to a 2 year deal
Beck Water replied to Big Turk's topic in The Stadium Wall
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zayne_Anderson Mostly practice squad guy for the Chiefs last 2 seasons 4 games in 2021 with 0 defensive and significant (60%) ST snaps, played in playoffs 3 games in 2022 with 0 defensive and significant (69%) ST snaps, did not play in playoffs Decent athleticism - 4.44s 40 yd dash, 34" vertical, 10 ft broad jump. HS All-state as a sprinter (Utah) Nothing about being a baseball player, McDermott values baseball outfielders at Safety because of their ability to track the ball. STer or depth guy would be my guess. -
Trevon Diggs trying to get his brother in Dallas
Beck Water replied to 78thealltimegreat's topic in The Stadium Wall
It's not only a source on the staff, but a source in the right place at the right time on the staff. A lot of workplaces are like small towns, by which I mean the game of "telephone" is rampant - Fred hears something and tells Joe who interprets it and tells Dave who tells Mark, and by the time Mark hears it the context is stripped out and a few interpretations have been folded in. I don't know what a football team is like, but it would seem to have all the earmarks of this. I don't think the visible sideline spat was after a missed throw. -
Trevon Diggs trying to get his brother in Dallas
Beck Water replied to 78thealltimegreat's topic in The Stadium Wall
Fair enough. Do you work for the team, and that is how you know it to be true? -
I would go with $14/15 AAV What really good guard is available in FA next year, period?
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So what in your POV would be accurate?
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In general, he tends to be accurate or high from what I've seen. I tend to think it's low, and Edmunds will get considerably more - but there's a lot of room between $11M/yr and $20M/yr. The franchise tag is high for LB because it includes pass rushing LB and edge rushers - and it's just shy of $21M Roquan Smith got $20M/yr because he can rush the passer and tackle for a loss. He's not Tremaine Edmunds.
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Spotrac, which is usually fairly astute, says 4 years/$44M Market Value 4 yrs, $44,035,532 Avg. Salary: $11,008,883 NFL Rank: 183 ILB Rank: 7 If it's such a slam-dunk Edmunds would get $20M, the Bills could franchise him and trade him.
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Trevon Diggs trying to get his brother in Dallas
Beck Water replied to 78thealltimegreat's topic in The Stadium Wall
Where was this reported? -
Trevon Diggs trying to get his brother in Dallas
Beck Water replied to 78thealltimegreat's topic in The Stadium Wall
The thing is, I don't see a restructure that would allow the Bills to move on from him. As far as I know, the NFLPA/NFL does not allow a player to take some of his signing and restructure bonuses and turn them back into salary -
That's Roquan Smith money. Please explain why you feel Edmunds should get Roquan Smith money.
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I mean, he shouldn't "commit" to anyone until there's a contract he's willing to sign. On the other hand, Milano pretty much said the same thing, and wound up re-signing with the Bills. In the article:
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Dude, first off, we have some serious revisionist history going on with Daboll. Could Daboll be creative? Sure. Was he too cute for his own good in 2018, his first year here? Absolutely he was. I spent literally hours watching all-22 trying to figure out what the hell he was trying to do with certain run plays, begging some of the knowledgeable guys here to help me sort it out. Did he stay too cute for his own good at times? Sure! Consider 2021 - we opened the season unable to get any offense going against a Steelers game plan we had no answers for. Daboll's idea to foil teams bracketing Beasley was to add Sanders so teams couldn't bracket both and go 5 wide, well Keith Butler had a plan for that. We got blown out against the Colts, stalled out against the Jaguars, and had some questionable play calling against the Titans. There were times when people had "solved" us and we had no answers. I can remember people here, last year, complaining that Daboll's offense had become too predictable, no creativity, we weren't able to scheme guys open in the intermediate passing game, etc etc. Let's not pretend that with Daboll at OC the Bills were an infalliable juggernaut of offensive perfection. Let's also not pretend that there wasn't a sizeable contingent of fans here ready to move on from him as OC. Second, a team simply doesn't go 13-3 in the regular season, #2 offense, lose the 3 games we lost by a combined 8 points, if "all our innovation went out the door with Daboll". Sorry, you do need some innovation on offense to do that. Did our offense have flaws, sure, but Josh wasn't hurling moon shots down the field too much at times because he had no other options. Are you right that Dorsey may be a mistake at OC? Perhaps. I'm with Joe Buscaglia, who opined that running it back with Dorsey as OC may be the biggest risk the Bills are taking this season. Dorsey needs to take a step, especially in the red zone and with crafting sequences of plays. But Josh may need to take a step there too. I think sometimes Dorsey does have things schemed up for Josh, that he doesn't see or take, including in the RZ. That's my real question - I feel there's a coaching disconnect between Josh and Dorsey and Brady at times, where Daboll had smacked Josh with a board between the eyes as a young raw QB that Josh would listen to him, while Dorsey and Brady don't have his attention. I don't know if that's fixable. I do believe we need more OL talent and more WR talent, and that's not on Dorsey. With Brown and Beasley (younger and higher level of skill) in 2020 and with Sanders and Beasley in 2021, Daboll had more to work with. But let's quit with the "Daboll great infalliable innovator Dorsey no innovation at all bletch puke" line, it doesn't pass the memory check.
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“Coaching changes” “Anything related to the Bills” Two different statements, suggesting that two different answers may be required. I don’t think he’s said anything publicly that indicates unhappy about “anything related to the Bills” or coaching changes/lack of coaching changes. With how the season ended, sure. I have no idea what he’s said to teammates - how would I know? For that matter, how would you know?
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He was an ERFA (exclusive rights FA) who couldn’t negotiate with any other team, provided he was offered a vet minimum contract by the Giants So that’s what he got
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You know that Diggs is unhappy about coaching changes (or lack of changes) how? You know that Diggs is unhappy with anything related to the Bills right now how?
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My $0.02. Could be completely wrong. History first: In 2019, when Hall was promoted to WR coach, he had experienced WR John Brown, Cole Beasley and then Zay Jones and Isaiah McKenzie, who couldn't run routes at the time and was strictly a "gadget guy". Brown could get taken away by physical coverage and Beasley could be bracketed; Daboll tried to compensate with Duke Williams and others in the playoffs but it wasn't enough 2020, Stefon Diggs, John Brown, Cole Beasley - very experienced group. Gabe Davis excelled at blocking and started to see some routes, as did McKenzie. All of the WR raved about Chad as a coach, and bought him a truck for Christmas. Receivers did get taken away in the AFCCG 2021, Stefon Diggs, Emmanuel Sanders, Cole Beasley - again, very experienced group now with Gabe Davis really coming on and McKenzie showing up against man coverage. 2022, now we have Diggs and a much less experienced group who need to be coached up - Davis as the #2, McKenzie/Crowder as the slot guys, Hodgins, Gentry The end result was bringing Brown and Beasley off the sofa. Now, injuries to Crowder and Kumerow aren't Hall's fault. But just maybe, he was too close to the "squad" to give them the hard coaching they needed at times - to run crisper routes (Davis), to do wet ball drills more if that's what they needed to catch better in cold, wet weather. Davis and McKenzie both failed to take the expected step. Why were they the guys we were counting on? Did Hall go to the matt that they could get the job done, only to see them squib? And, it was a different dynamic with Diggs as the only established, high quality veteran. Maybe that produced a dynamic that was harder for Hall to deal with constructively? Was getting a gift console from McKenzie as "one of the squad" an indication of a coach who fell into the trap of being too close to the players? I think it may very much have been a mutual decision for Hall to move on. I think the Bills wanted a more experienced WR coach who they had more confidence in developing a rookie and some younger players while maintaining the respect of veteran guys. Also, if Hall pounded the table for Gabe as #2 and McKenzie as his slot, the Bills may have lost a bit of confidence in his player personnel e v a l. All speculation, but Henry has coached some pretty big names: "Henry came to IU from the Dallas Cowboys and he brought some clout to the role in Bloomington. He coached NFL Pro Bowlers Odell Beckham Jr., Anquan Boldin, Amari Cooper, CeeDee Lamb, Jarvis Landry, and Zach Miller. Henry also coached Beckham and Landry at LSU." I don't think there's a question that he's both a more experienced WR coach than Hall, and has developed some guys.
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What recent stuff?
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Rex Ryan emerging as favorite for DC in Denver?
Beck Water replied to Big Blitz's topic in The Stadium Wall
FIFY. AS you say in your 2nd sentence, he WAS an excellent coordinator - back in 2008 with the Ravens If you believe he was heavily involved in the defensive game plans and coaching for the Jets, give him 2014. That's 9 years ago. His defense sucked with the Bills - whether he didn't have the right players, didn't put in the time and effort, or allowed his brother too much say, anyone's guess. When you stop doing something for 9 years, your skills get rusty. Sometimes you can clean off the rust and reboot, sometimes your "get up and go" has just got up and went and you can't.