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That is true, but is number of passing TDs in a game really the metric of a great QB? I haven't looked, but passing yards aren't correlated with winning, so I dunno if passing TDs are. I mean, Goff just threw 5 passing TDs vs the Bills, and .... lost? Josh threw 3 vs the Rams and.... lost?

The guy who's predicting the Implosion of Allen because he Lost the Only Center he Ever Had is former AZ Cardinals backup C in 2015 (and starter in 2016 and 2017) AQ Shipley. He ought to know something about changing centers and having the team go from 13-3 to 7-8-1 (low blow?) The others are journeyman backup QB Colt McCoy (who tells the story of Brian Daboll screaming in his helmet and verbally abusing him during practice when he was in CLE) and 10 year NFL guard Justin Pugh. So they know a lot more ball than 3 random dudes slamming longnecks in a bar, but it's also pretty clear Gruden has forgotten more ball than they jointly ever knew.

This is precious. Love watching Gruden's face while the other three are pontificating about how the Bills will go 8-9 after all the players they let go and Allen is getting the big bucks so he needs to step up and make plays. Who are those other 3 guys anyway, one of them mentioned playing for AZ in 2015 and put an outsize importance on the loss of Mitch Morse at C - so was he an OLman for AZ in 2015? EDIT: it's AQ Shipley, the AZ Cards backup C in 2015, who started the next 2 years. The others are Colt McCoy and Justin Pugh. I do have to admit I was concerned about replacing Mitch Morse with Conner McGovern, not because of replacing Mitch Morse per se but because McGovern had basically not shown he could play C in the NFL and he had an injury history. But it was also clear Morse had limitations for the sort of run game the Bills wanted to run. I'm also still concerned with the quality of our WR corps and worry that Beane won't invest in upgrades because we're managing with what we've got and the D line seems so pitiful.

That is wild. How could they make that mistake? Yes, January 15th 2022 vs NWE in a 47-17 playoff game. 84% completion for 308 yds, 5 passing TDs, 0 INT, and 6 rushes for 66 yds. Do the Ravens think it doesn't count because it was in the playoffs against a 10-7 team coached by Bill Belicheck, instead of against a 2-12 Giants team that jettisoned their former 1st round QB a few weeks back and is visibly tanking? Did someone tell them? Edit: I messaged the Ravens on Facebook. Wonder if they'll get back to me.

Allen and the quality of his O-line are a double-edged sword. On the one hand, he extends plays and that's hard on an O-line vs. a Purdy type who gets the ball out quickly and in rhythm. It can make a decent O-line look bad. On the other hand, Allen has become an absolute magician at avoiding defenders, with a gift for making them run into each other instead of him. So he avoids many sacks, and that makes the O-line look better. But they have to have an almost otherworldly awareness of where he is and how to interfere with defenders in order to help him escape without getting called for the block in the back or the hold.

I'm glad I'm not the only one who had that thought. Yucccckkkkk-o

Maybe, but Josh is a runner at that point and that's the name of the game

I'm with Simon. No "might", it makes you sound insane. Leaving aside any questions about whether Diggs has decided to shut up and catch the ball and be a good teammate now - and I say "when someone tells you who he is, Believe Him" - he'd be coming back off an ACL. We've all seen that a player's first year back off an ACL, they tend to be tentative and aren't able to plant and change direction like they could before. And that was Diggs bread-and-butter, the ability to juke defenders out of their shorts.

I just want to know did Allen go over to congratulate Goff and instead B word about greatness being called back? Imma guess "No"

You do know the Lions have one of the top defenses in football (3rd I think before this week) and we just hung 48 points of offense on them?

Right, but that doesn't answer why was it Spector and not Dorian Williams? To my eyes Williams has played well.

Nah that's for making small things look bigger. I think what we need here is a wide-angle lens, to bring larger things into the frame of the picture.

Please define "normal defense". The Lions are the #1 offense in the NFL on points, #1 for 1st D, #2 on yards, #3 on Yards per play, #3 on NY/A passing, top-10 in rush yards/A and fewest turnovers. In short, they're pretty damned good, their coach is as aggressive AF, and wasn't over until it was over. I believe it was @GunnerBill who said your defense needs to get 4 stops per game to give you a winning chance against a top team. 3 punts and a fumble to go with a missed FG for each side. The defense got 4 stops today, not counting the missed FG Our defense only got 2 stops against the Rams to match the 2 stops they got on us One more stop, or no special teams miscue TD, and we win.

You don't need an x-ray for that, bro

Looked like shoulder, late. Worried about that, he's got a lot of hardware in one shoulder and a history of sprains in the other.

Let's start at the bottom and work back. Disagree no one played harder during his entire tenure. The OL...Beasley...Davis (results didn't always match but effort was there)....Milano...Taron Johnson just for a few. Hyde and Poyer, always going hard. Then there was the Steelers playoff game last year where he fumbled the first catch of the game, leading to a penalty as Kincaid alertly batted it out of bounds...he was taking himself off the field and sometimes half assing his routes when the play design didn't come to him. And he wasn't exactly a terror as a downfield blocker. Disagree he was "literally the only player on the team who gave any effort" in the Bengals playoff game. 4 receptions on 10 targets for 35 yards? Those weren't all uncatchable balls. He was given his opportunities, maybe too many opportunities instead of taking the underneath shots, and he didn't come through. Josh Allen laid it all on the line. There was not a "carousel" of OCs. He had Daboll for 3 years, then Dorsey for a year and a half. That's actually less turnover than most teams. You're entitled to your opinion that Diggs was not a dumbass. I think he's probably pretty smart, myself, but I also think he's a card-carrying narcissist and wants the name of leader when times are good, without actually doing the heavy lifting a true leader does in hard times.

This is actually not true. I will say this, though. He doesn't tend to change it up until it's proven not to work against a team. So if a team runs over us the next time we meet them he'll have something different. Example: 2021. First meeting with the Patriots, 222 rush yards. 2nd meeting, 149. 3rd meeting in playoffs, 89. The first meeting, they actually ran a good bit of 4-3 base with Tyrell Dodson substituting for Taron Johnson. Didn't work out very well. Second meeting, they ran a kind of "heavy nickel" with Siran Neal substituting for one of the DBs and if I recall correctly, some base and sometimes a 5th DL. Here's the thing. Practice time is limited during the season, and as fans, I don't think a lot of us realize how complex a modern NFL defense really is. Assignments can change pre-snap, post-snap, then based on the routes the receivers actually run - even "man" doesn't mean "that's your guy no matter what", especially if the defense is set up to create rub routes or they can play half field man, half field zone. So communication and being assignment-sound has to be considered when changing things up during the game. And the defense does try to confuse the offense, by disguising coverage, disguising who the pass rushers may be, and so forth. Just as an offense doesn't necessarily disguise what they're doing by changing personnel but by using the same personnel in different ways. An offense will tend to keep its best players on the field most plays, because they're the best players and because if they sub them out for a player who excels with specific plays, it's a "tell" to the defense. Same thing with substitutions on defense.

It's not always someone you love romantically. It can be an affectionate way to refer to a younger bro, cousin or nephew (even if they're now taller than you) or basically a kid. It's respectful in that sense. Also sometimes "shawty" It's used towards any woman, never heard it used in a derogatory sense towards a woman, kind of implies young and attractive. Like if you saw a young, attractive woman with car trouble and decided to stop and help, you might say "shawty needs a hand" as you flip your hazards on. It can be insulting used towards a random man, kind of implying he's a child or child-like but that's not how Diggs means it here, I think he means it like "brother" Hope this helps @RobbRiddick Nah it's like a general sort of affectionate term for your younger relatives or younger guys you grew up with. You knew them when they were short, even if they tower over you now. "I knew you when" kind of connotation.

Unfortunately, having a resectable (operable) tumor where placing a biliary stent is an option, is about the best outcome in this case, and as you said ....the best outcome is usually you buy a year or two. That can be important. My MIL bought 2 years with radiation and surgery for Leiomyosarcoma. In those two years, she saw her first great grandchild born and another grandchild marry. They were good years. It's not uncommon for the cancer to not be detected until it's spread so far that surgery really isn't possible. This was the case for my friend's brother and another friend's BIL

Um....you sure about that? Am I late to the fair, or did someone already discuss the impact of not practicing Thursday after a walk-through on Weds might have on the team?

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You were responding to this: "The Niners play them twice a year, every year. " I'm sorry it wasn't clear, but the guy you were responding to nor I, made any claims about a WR screen being "freakish" or "unfamiliar". The point is, there are maybe 30? 40? plays in the game plan for the game. They're going to throw a WR screen at some point. They're going to execute other plays at other times. But in what circumstances? And what minor shifts in OL stance or position or QB cadence or anything else might be "tells" to the defense that the screen is coming? That's the point of the chap you were responding to (and mine). All teams run some variant of the same play. Division rivals get extra familiarity with the tendencies of their opponent because they play them so often. The Rams likely had extra insight into the Bills D because of the previous jobs and connections of their OC and DC. The Bills didn't. My comment about "freakazoids" was not that the WR screen is freakish, but that the Bills D doesn't depend on star players ("freakazoids", in Emmanuel Acho's words). Rather, it depends on all 11 guys going hard and working together as one unit. And on Sunday, the DL wasn't.

WTF? They were 100% in the game, too. I assume they told him to go home and not come back while they figure out how to handle it in terms of contract?

There's a couple of things. Yes, I think familiarity with scheme plays a role. The Bills don't have a lot of familiarity with the Rams scheme, but historically McDermott has been pretty good at shutting down Shanahan disciples, which I think McVay's offense still is. McDermott's defense is like a chronometer. Other defenses have 1-3 "freakazoids" who can single-handedly change the course of a game. On offense, we have Josh Allen, to whom that applies. On defense ?? Von Miller was supposed to be a freakazoid for us, but that only materialized for about 10.5 games. Someone here described the Bills defense as a Boa constrictor, there isn't a single part of the snake that seems particularly scary but in the end it strangles you. But, McDermott will tell you, it all starts up front and if the DL doesn't come out ready to own the LOS, it's going to be a hella long day, because it's an "all-11, everyone Do Your Job" sort of system. I do wonder if the defensive players feel some sort of way about having Milano dropped back into the lineup.

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