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I think "somewhere in between".

What is that "same source"? Sorry, I have a kind of "gallows sense of humor", comes from being a former EMT and a pilot

The news report I saw was that the plane crashed in a wooded area behind houses Cazenovia Creek appears to run behind there so checks out Those Patriot Fans, man, they'll stop at nothing

I was wondering who is Williams, as in " finger tip catches to Knox and Williams" The only Williams on the team right now being Dorian, far as I know - and if he's taking the field as a receiver we're in Big Trouble There was definitely a one-hand pass to Knox that was a brilliant catch by him

You're correct prior to the trade deadline, but after the trade deadline all players (veteran or not) must go through waivers Yes, played there 3 years - 2020 to 2024 He was a Beast

The best case scenario is we get a stop. We had gotten 2 stops plus 3 limits to a FG (1 missed), which is why we had a chance at the end, anyway We needed another stop I do see your point that if we weren't getting a stop, having the Chiefs score relatively quickly was better for the Bills than a methodical grind down the field, but it's not the "best case scenario for us."

Right, we both agree it's unlikely LA was offered a 2025 5th or 6th and turned it down to swap 2026 and 2027 7ths. But I can see them taking 3 cents instead of 4 cents to help build goodwill with players and agents by sending Tre White to a contender.

Pie? Did someone say pie?

I think the problem with that philosophy is, by the time you realize that you better bring out your cards or you'll lose, it can be too late. I think that's how the Bills started out the game against the Rams - "we don't need all our cards against this 6-6 team, we'll just save them for next week against the 12-1 Lions". But they miscalculated: the Rams were playing for their playoff lives, knowing their best chance at the playoffs is to win the division and believing that Seattle is vulnerable. And just like that, the Rams are now leading the division, with very winnable games against the Jets and 'Zona then their final fate-control game against Seattle. I think if you're keeping cards in your pocket, the players know it and it's hard to get them to buy into the "bring everything, bring peak intensity" mindset.

It doesn't matter as much if we let their offense march up the field and down the field every drive.

I mean, I dunno. The trade was for a 2026 7th round, (which is next to nothing), and they got a 2027 7th round back, (which, I think can be justly argued that you are correct, they got nothing.) It was clear Tre was probably still rehabbing that Achilles, and it's not impossible he might have something left after rehab completes. I think it's possible that a team with a bad secondary that's trying to rebuild might have offered a 2026 7th without requiring a 2027th 7th back, or even a 2025 7th. F aced with getting next to nothing vs. getting nothing, the Rams decided to take the offer that was best for the player.

LOL they don't care what you look like. The flow chart is simple: 1) Is this guy holding the football? Y -> Nail Him N -> Don't care 2) Is this guy in the way between me and the guy who is holding the football? Y -> Nail him N-> Don't care 3) Is this guy good looking? -> See 1) and 2) above Eric Wood once said "You can do things on a football field that are severely illegal anywhere else"

I'm not sure what you mean by "protected zone", but assuming you mean your bro was wearing a cup, it's notorious that in the NFL, players don't wear cups anymore. I don't know why, but apparently if you show up in an NFL locker room with a cup, you face immense ridicule. Have friend whose son was elite rugby player in HS and club player in college and afterwards. Plays wing. He also played WR on a championship winning football team in HS. Can confirm.

I share your questions. Brett Favre was a noted trash-talker. One of his OL was being interviewed and said he was always telling Brett "Brett, I gotta block this guy, Don't Piss Him Off" On the other hand, I remember a mic'd up episode with Jordan Poyer where he was constantly yattering at the receiver he was covering "I'm here. I'm right here. I'm right on your ass, 18." I'm honestly not sure what World Class Trash Talking contributes to the team. I know on an individual basis guys do it to crank themselves up.

One of the most interesting parts about 10 minutes in. I think there's a feeling the Bills have a state-of-the-art, science driven training program. Tre' is talking about Von Miller coming in from the Rams and saying that the Bills are "the complete opposite of this" (as far as training load, is my understanding). He also talks about how the coaches and staff stress positivity and even on the sideline when they were getting spanked by 'Zona they're still positive and composed. Talks about how McVay is coaching the guys but loving them, always in a positive light. And how they manage the load in training and practice to keep guys healthy in December (year to year though, at a glance I don't see the Rams as particularly healthier or less healthy than any other team) He says some good things to say about the Bills and how they're solid and bring in guys and everybody bought in, "but on the sideline, if we getting spanked, you gonna hear about it". As opposed to the Rams "they coach you hard but love you at the same time". Tre clearly felt there were elements of the Rams coaching that were superior, as far as getting the best out of players in a high stakes situation. Anyway that struck me. There's no question. There is an element of luck to key injuries. Tre and Von Miller were both key defensive injuries. Some minor tid-bits: "the only one who could move in the snow was Shady McCoy" (true - wish they could bring him in as a consultant)

There are players who are noted for this. Christian Wilkins is one. The idea is if they can get you to lose your focus, their teammate gets the ball. If they can't, they get you mad enough at them you you'll come out of the pile swinging and they get 15 yds. But you know, I thought Detroit left early and should have had a penalty. Am I the only one? Be shocked then. In his 2005 book "Romo My Life on the Edge" Bill Romanowski recounted how he once broke another player's finger while in a scrum pile.

I like the way you think. I'd love the Chiefs to be "exposed" without Mahomes. I don't think it's realistic. Any team is going to fear sitting their QB, and the better the QB, the bigger the fear. Of course, the Chiefs fear sitting Mahomes, why wouldn't they fear sitting their top QB? But the league - the people who dissect film for a living - understand that the Chiefs are less "The Patrick Mahomes Show" this season (and last) than they were earlier in his career, and I wouldn't expect them to fold like a cheap lawn chair if Mahomes can't go. Points: -Andy Reid is one of the best coaches in the business. He got the best play of his career out of Alex Smith. He got good QB play from Donovan McNabb and Michael Vick. If anyone can tool a scheme to succeed with a given QB, even Carson Wentz, Reid is that guy. -Right now, the Chiefs have the #5 D on points and yards given up. Their D has been keeping them in games and winning close games for them. -Their offense is only OK. It's like 12th in the league for points and 14th for yards. They're running on 5.8 NY/A passing, which is 21st in the league, or something like that. They're "meh" for completion percentage and pass yards per game. What they are, is balanced, passing and rushing making about the same contribution. There's definitely more to the Chiefs than Paddy Mahomes. What they will lose if Mahomes sits, is that extra layer of belief in their own invincibility and ability to come from behind - the confidence that if things look grim, Mahomes the Grim Reaper will cut the opponent down to size and pull off the improbable victory. I think This Is True.

So again not Baldy, but if the X's and O's they haunt you, here's Eric Wood breaking down X's and O's on some of the Bills TDs:

According to Brave, you're pretty much right. -Phins need to win out -They need the Chargers to lose twice -They need the Colts to lose once.

? Smoot is currently on the roster?

Wow, people like to narrative. McKenzie's snaps were not reduced. He was playing 50-ish % of the offensive snaps to the end of 2022, until he got hurt and was inactive for the first playoff game. And he started that podcast with Dunne way earlier than that. It was obvious in 2022 that he wasn't able to step up and replace Beasley in the Slot role, and Nyheim Hines in 2022 and Deonte Harty in 2023 were likely signed as upgrades to McKenzie - but as it happens, they weren't. Curtis Samuel was also signed as an upgrade in the slot, and he certainly has a much better track record than any of those 3 players, but so far he hasn't proven to be an upgrade, either. I thought the Phins weren't mathematically eliminated yet? I feel like it would be "revenant" time, but in theory, aren't they still in it?

Factually, as far as Dunne's story goes, McKenzie was speaking up long before he was cut in a podcast with Dunne ("The Isaiah McKenzie Show"). And McKenzie was ON the record quoted by name in Dunne's story, with everything he said being positive. In his podcast, he did say some stuff about the ride home after the 13 seconds game, that it was a pretty bad scene etc. But I don't think you can tag McKenzie as "indicting McDermott's leadership". For the record, I don't think Dunne "made up" his story, but he clearly had his own agenda and his interpretation and editorializing that was a large part of the story. And if you speak to 40 sources or whatever it was and many of them are anonymous, it's impossible for the reader to tell if the most damning quotes are from 1 or 2 people, or from 10 or 20 people. Did you ever see the movie "Sweet Liberty" with Alan Alda? The historical re-enactors rebel against the movie director and do their scene with historical accuracy. Alda's character is talking to the director character afterwards and says something about them doing the scene the way it actually was vs. what he wanted, and the latter says "I filmed it from 40 different angles. I can make it look Any Way I Want." I find it very significant that John Wawrow now known as @Delete This Account , summarized Dunne's article as "former employee has issues with former boss" and said "that's why many of us are going to sit this one out" or something to that effect. I thought it was pretty clear that a lot of the most damning quotes came from either Dorsey or Daboll or both. As far as 13 seconds, I also found it significant that 'Zo Alexander, who was still well connected to the current team because of his work with young players, said "the players know what happened...the players will sort it out". I have my own theory on the Chad Hall and 'Lil Dirty departures, but I don't have to share them unless someone wants to hear.

Makes a lot of sense that McKenzie would want to sign there, he lives in Miami during the off season and has his BBQ restaurant there. The Fish put Blake Ferguson on the reserve/non-football injury or illness list in mid-October. He was predicted to return in 4 weeks and they were elevating a LS they signed to the practice squad, but Ferguson hasn't been back. They had a PS guy, Matt Overton, who cam up off the PS and snapped 3 games for them, then they had this Jake McQuaid guy on PS but it's pretty weird - I went and looked - on their depth chart, the position of LS is currently blank! So evidently they decided Ferguson isn't coming back this season? and they better put McQuaid on the roster before someone snipes him? I don't know, whatever the illness or injury is, I wish Ferguson well.

I think he was this year's Justin Zimmer. Relatively fast and athletic for a DE - saw him catch guys downfield a couple of times. Pretty sure Bills want to put him on the PS if they can.

So Diggs had a 4 yr, $96M salary of which $70M was guaranteed. The money that was guaranteed was: 1) signing bonus of $21.5 - this is paid to the player up-front 2) 2022 and 2023 salary guaranteed at signing 3) I don't remember if there was an option bonus built into the contract, or if the Bills converted a bunch of Diggs salary to bonus and amortized it. 3) 2024 salary of $19M guaranteed on the 4th day of the 2024 league new year 4) he had some guaranteed salary in 2025, think it was $3 or $3.5M So the $31M of cap hit for Diggs on the Bills books, was amortized bonus already paid to Diggs that accelerated onto the current league year when the Bills traded him. The Texans became liable for Diggs 2024 salary of $19M and 2025 guarantee of $3 or $3.5M. What they did, was tack the 2025 guarantee onto his 2024 salary, then convert a lot of it to signing bonus and amortize it. I'm not sure what you mean by "some money did change hands" but the above is a fairly accurate picture.