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Rashee Rice over Darnell Wright or Zay Flowers? Huh.

If the baby rumors are true, that's gonna be going on for 18 years or so Personally I woulda thought a partially torn UCL and having to alter his throwing motion in Week 8 would affect his play and be a sufficient explanation. Not of course excluding the possibility that he's actually a moron, socially or relationship-wise, and there were off-field issues as well

Oh I dunno - maybe everyone who took the time to read the thread and post in it?

The Poyer thing is older than that. 2018 off-season. I remember it because Poyer was new here the previous season and I was like "well Boys looks like we got our own Miko Grimes here in the Queen City". But to Poyer's credit, the only thing he contributed publicly was a message about how he looked forward to showing his family he could be a good husband and father for years. It was rumored that Zo Alexander and Micah Hyde had a lot to do with putting things straight for them. It's been 5 years with no further public drama, so I think they deserve a pass on that. Bad guess. Interestingly, Google won't help you much.

No offense, but Efe Obada hasn't been a member of the Bills team since 2021. I'm sure he knows staffers and people still on the team, as well as people in the community, but even on the DL - a lot of the players he played with in 2021 in his position group are gone. Vernon Butler, Star Lotulelei, Harrison Phillips, Jerry Hughes, Mario Addison, Justin Zimmer, all not on the team in 2022. Of course, some players and the staff and the community are still there. Taking the report that he was talking about it at a wedding at face value, it begs the question who is his source and is that source really in the know. It seems possible he could be going off the same rumors as everyone else. And then there's the question of which rumors are true - did this happen at Halloween? Did this happen in January before the playoff game? Are we talking cheating? Cheating plus baby? Massive destruction of property? "I know the neighborhood, and talk is cheaper when the story is good" as REO Speedwagon sings. What seems factual is: 1) Britt was posting pictures of Josh going out to shovel before the Browns game Nov 20, a kissy pic on the field after the Dolphins game, and one of those "so proud of you" consolation messages after the Bengals game. 2) she posted pics of them on a Hawaii vacation in late February/early March So whether all, some, or none of this is true they seem to have been together weeks and months after both the timelines of the alleged problems. A few years back when I had an Instagram account and followed the players and WAGs, it seemed as though Josh sent her on a couple of "girls vacations" every Spring with some of her sorority sisters from college and sometimes friends who are other player's girlfriends (Kyle Allen's fiancee/long time GF Summer Juraszek was a regular). So I don't think Britt posting pics of "girls trips" in the spring while Allen may be off training with Ryan Flaherty or at the Master or something, is exactly conclusive breakup evidence, since she's been doing those (on Josh's dime I assume) for years.

Someone said he was posting stuff about training with Palmer, but when I had an Insta account Josh basically just did endorsements and reposts

Josh posted on his Instagram? He almost never uses SM just retweets a few things or does endorsements Anyway Josh was out in Cali the week of the pro bowl for the Pebble Beach Pro Am

Yeah plus there was something about a big blowup /baby/sonogram/ domestic disturbance at Halloween. Then the same story but this time supposedly before the Bengals game. It’s the same schtuff just shifted 3 months sounds like the small town stuff where you sneeze at 9 am; by noon the town is saying you have a cold and by dinner time you’re being admitted to the ICU with pneumonia meanwhile you’re sitting at home with a beer

When a team drafts a guy in the 5th round, they generally hope he can develop into a good player, but they aren't counting on it. I don't think the Bills "suddenly lost faith" in Shakir. I think they looked at him as a 5th round player - a guy with a lot of potential, who had played at a low level of competition, and who was gonna need time to develop. He did some good stuff last season - made some excellent downfield catches - and he had some struggles. He had some early inactive games and some early chances at significant playing time, and what he showed didn't bump him up the depth chart. He started getting more playing time towards the end of the season, but I don't think he ever got to a point where they were like "Yeah, he's Da Man" at slot. I would absolutely support drafting OL early, but I think we've drafted enough late-round WR and we really need to make an early round investment. Among other things, I did an assessment a while back of, if a player became a solid starter in the NFL, how long did it take? Of course individuals varied, but overall players who were drafted in the 1st-2nd round were usually starting by their 2nd season if they were going to start. But, starting players drafted in the 4th round or later could take 3+ years to earn a starting shot.

Well, hopefully the baby (if any) and its mama gets appropriately supported. If all this was going on last fall around Halloween/Nov as the Reddit tealeaves claim, baby should be showing up in the next couple months (late May-June) I'm not condoning cheating. I do remember an interview with a famous woman singer who had a relationship with a star musician for a while. She said "one thing I never expected was fidelity; they get so many opportunities". I mean there's Josh flying home at 2 am and there's a young woman holding up a sign "Josh Allen Will You CreamPie Me?" FWIW Williams was still posting pics of them after the playoff win vs. Miami and posting messages after the Bengals loss. https://people.com/sports/who-is-brittany-williams-josh-allen/ On the other hand, I seem to remember in his interview the next day, one of the reporters asked if he planned to train with Jordan Palmer and Allen said something about "I don't know if I'll be going to California" which I thought at the time was kind of weird since he has a house out there.

Maybe I stuck my foot in a thread where everyone is stumping for a 1st round pick at RT. I dunno that I am, and I dunno enough about Darnell Wright. If a guy is strictly a RT, I would agree with you, that's not a hugely valuable trade chip. But there are several recent instances of guys who were playing RT for one team, got their shot to show what they could do at LT, and then demanded a trade to keep playing LT (Orlando Brown of course being one).

I don't think this can be over-emphasized. The worst thing that happens if we have a promising rookie and Spencer Brown starts pass protecting like his jock's on fire and blocking impeccably will put it out, is we have a very valuable trade piece. It did not go unnoticed to me that in 2021, Dion Dawkins kinda sucked at the start of the season after recovering from Covid. Then he missed a game week 15, Spencer Brown started ahead of him at LT in Week 16 then got hurt. Dawkins came in and played extremely well, leaving no doubt who the Big Dawg at LT was. Competition is good

It's the reason continued success from a team is not to be taken for granted Look at the Houston Texans. In 2019, they beat us in a playoff game. Made our #2 overall defense fold like a cheap lawn chair to squander a 16-0 lead in the 3rd Q, and shut down our offense. They were even beating the Chiefs, in Kansas City, 24-0 in the second Q. Next year they went 4-12 despite Watson playing out of his mind, passing for 4823 yds with 33 TD and 7 INTs. And they haven't had more than 4 wins since. That's how fast it can all fall apart.

That’s really not an apt analogy at all, but carry on

It's a valid point that his effort in planning said shredding session may be "call my personal assistant, give him a budget and tell him 'make it so' in which case, sure, it's a recreational activity equivalent to any night out. It's also a valid point that given two people of roughly equal talent, the one who is most obsessed with putting in the work will tend to go further, while the "part timer" may slide And I really do dislike when people do the straw man "you think..." projection thing. Given that I actually wrote "it is just OTAs, I suppose you can't live and breathe them 24/7", this seems lamer than the usual. Doesn't have to be against the Chiefs for me.

I could see him being able to craft a story that would be relatable and very inspiring

I personally kinda feel he should concentrate on being the best player for the Bills he can be - it was great that Christian Wade was a fine drummer but would have rather seen him be a fine American football player. But maybe that's my inner Grinch talking....I know there are a fair number of guys on the Bills who are interested in music - Tim Settle I believe has a recording studio in his basement etc - and it is just OTAs, I suppose you can't live and breathe them 24/7

Oklahoma State University Alum and Bills trainer/first responder Denny Killington to be the commencement speaker at OSU

Seems appropriate

Did that honestly surprise you though? In 2013, Buddy Nix was telegraphing "we're gonna draft a QB this year" so loud that the -.. .-. .- ..-. - / .- / --.- -... was imprinted in every reporter's notebook And there was lots of "smoke" about having had a horrid interview with Geno Smith, and a lot of stuff about how respectful and well mannered EJ was. So it was not a surprise to me that we drafted a QB, or that the QB we drafted was Manuel. I'm not saying I wanted it - just saying I wasn't surprised.

I dunno about "many mocks", but Lance Zierlein on NFL.com graded him as a 1st round pick, as did Prisco and Trapasso: https://www.nfl.com/prospects/kaiir-elam/3200454c-4155-0002-a198-92eda6859fa9 https://dknation.draftkings.com/2022/4/28/23016692/kaiir-elam-nfl-draft-scouting-reports-fantasy-football-mock-draft-cornerback-bears-chiefs-texans

I would have to say TJ Graham in the 2012 3rd round. Russ Wilson was on the board and there had been murmurs about "can't measure the heart of a player" that Nix liked him. It was evident at that point that the Bills really needed to draft and develop a QB. Kirk Cousins was also on the board. A 3rd round pick would be a totally reasonable investment in a guy who could learn behind Fitzpatrick. So the Bills traded up and my pulse accelerated and I was thinking "they're gonna draft Wilson!"...."TJ WHO?" The Bills got 31 games and 54 receptions out of Graham in 2 seasons. In the same 2 seasons, Russ Wilson lead the Seahawks to the Divisional Round and won a Superbowl. Then in 2013, one of the worst QB classes ever, the Bills drafted EJ Manuel.

I am so behind the fair on this. Ya Hate to See It 😇

OK, crass to follow up my own post. But on this listen, I caught the name of the trainer Josh said he works with - Ryan Flaherty, Josh calls him "Flaher Bear". So I googled and here is some of his stuff, talking about what he sees as "do's and don'ts" for QB workouts. No bench press, what he recommends instead. https://www.stack.com/a/quarterback-guru-ryan-flahertys-workout-secrets/ and an older article https://www.mensjournal.com/sports/money-lift-how-top-flight-trainer-discovered-most-important-exercise-every-athlete

Edit: to answer my own question, I figured it out - "PFA" = "priority free agent", guys FAMbase doesn't expect teams to draft but expects them to be interested in. I'm wondering how up-to-date said list is?