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If Frazier had wanted to make a lateral move to a DC position on a different team, the Bills almost 100% would have released him from his contract to pursue that. Therefore, I think it can be concluded with pretty high certainty, that a lateral move to DC was NOT what Frazier wanted to happen.

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OK, I might disagree with one of them and I might name another player or 3. That would be a distraction from my point: you were canonizing St Diggs as the only player who came to play in the Bengals game, and the only one who came to play in the previous game, and justifying his post-game behavior as a result of that. I see it's now "1 of only 2-3 players that actually showed up to play hard", and that's fine. Milano and Edmunds, the players you name, were in the locker room after the game, available to the press. They were available on Locker Clean Out day. Diggs dipped. Obviously you can be a passionate, invested competitor and angry and upset about a loss without dipping on your your responsibilities as a captain of the team and as an NFL player under contract governed by the CBA, which mandates press availability, win or lose.

Don't give this guy the clicks. He's just re-tweeting Buffalo Bills twitter account stuff

Surely you can see the difference between someone who might be considered a Bills FO Insider (since Von has publicized "shadowing" Beane as a GM), and fan conversation on a message board ("gossip")? I mean this in the nicest possible way: You do realize you're on a "fan board" here? Nitpicking what players and coaches and FO say is one of the things we do. If you consider this insanity, or it bothers you, you might wish to reconsider the life choices which brought you here.

I don't think they're pointing away, No, but the networks obviously select and edit what they're going to show. While the other team's offense/our defense is on the field, their focus is rightfully on those interactions. Should it not be? When you say "I see every Bills game", are you speaking of watching live, or are you speaking of watching what the TV editors choose us to see? I have seen Allen talking to teammates. I'm not equipped to compare it to Mahomes and Brady. I think it's probably fair to say that Allen doesn't get in other players' grills, I haven't seen that from him since he was a rookie.

This is factually incorrect according to the NFL/NFLPA CBA. The last sentence is fan ire speaking, but it's not how team sports work, either.

I disagree with this C'mon Man. Yes, people are making way more of Diggs behavior after the game than it probably deserves. It happened, that was last season, Move On. But you're going too far in the opposite direction. Diggs wasn't the only player hitting hard in blocking or tackling or going into contact hard after a catch. Yes, the team was flat, but let's not canonize Saint Diggs as the only player who was trying. That isn't true. As far as "what does everyone want him to do", we want him to fulfill his NFL-mandated responsibility for press availability. In team sports, there's also an unwritten protocol for how players are expected to behave, after a loss as well as a win. You listen to what the coaches have to say. If you're a Captain, a leader on the team, you're there for your teammates if they need you. Then you leave, not before. We want him to fulfill those responsibilities, not flee the building and get fetched back by a backup practice squad player and not dip on his press availabilities and leave his team making explanations to the NFL. So yeah, it's not just "the game was over, the season was over, he left". He skated on his coaches, teammates, and (because of violating NFL regulations) the Bills FO. It happened, it's over, we move on, but in no universe is this "Leader of Men" behavior, good teammate behavior, or expected behavior in the NFL. The Bills and the Bills players talking to the media are putting a positive "spin" on it, Good for Them, but they shouldn't have to.

Well, first off, are you attending every game or the majority of them, and focusing on Allen the whole time? The TV doesn't show all sideline interactions, and we don't know what's said in the huddle. The Coach's Film focuses on the field of play just before snap, to the whistle. So I'm not sure how you'd know the extent to which Allen is consoling, firing off at, or calming other players during the game? When things aren't going well, though, he does need to look at the tablet with his coaches/fellow QB Second, as you point out, on-field is only one aspect of managing relationships with players. Off-field may be equally or more important. I know that Beasley and Allen spent a lot of time in 2019 going over film together to get on the same page "if they play us this way, how will we respond?" and Allen continually brought up that Beasley sees the field like a QB. Managing his relationship with Diggs may be as simple as some extra time together watching film, to make sure Diggs understands what the play looked like from Allen's perspective (maybe he wasn't open when Allen had a window to throw, or when he was open Allen had to flush out of the pocket). Most people are complicated, and sometimes if a guy is seeing things from just his perspective giving him a broader perspective can help.

Von Miller is aligned to be cast into the outer darkness by his GM mentor, Brandon "We Don't Talk About Signings, No, No, No" Beane Loose Lips Sink Ships, Von!

Spencer Brown was a total turnstile in pass protection at times last season. Even McDermott acknowledged that at times, Allen was affected too early in the play. That's why the Bills were 7th in passing YPG and 6th in passing NY/A. We averaged 27.8 PPG because Josh Allen is a beast and fell short of 50 rush YPG by the same amount the Bills fell short of 30 PPG (47.6), as well as escaping the pass rush and extending plays. When we faced teams with fierce defenses, we struggled. So far, we have altered the OL by signing a backup G from the Cowboys, a G who lost most of last season to concussions, and a G who spent last season on IR. Any or all of them may be an improvement on last year's G acquisition, Rodger Saffold. Or, they may not. Time will tell. The O players you mention are 1) a fast smurf whose best season to date was 36 catches for 570 yds, who missed last season with a boo-boo foot 2) a career journeyman/STer entering his 6th year on his 4th team who had a decent gig as a #3 WR in Miami last season. We hope he'll take a step, but we hoped that for McKenzie going into his 6th season last year as well; sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't 3) an RB whose best season (2021) is similar to Singletary's 2021 and 2022 seasons in YSc and YPC (4.6) Don't get me wrong, I hope these are good moves - they have the potential to have a higher ceiling than what we gave up, but they're not the sure bets that "HELL of a lot better/faster" implies. Signed, Alert and Awake

Apparently so This is the guy he's talking about: https://www.nfl.com/prospects/adetomiwa-adebawore/32004144-4502-1468-3d33-a0f9da804e5c He wants us to spend a first-round pick on another undersized, light DT who "could earn a spot as a rotational interior defender" if he transforms his body.

Where is anyone claiming that? The only point I see people making is there's Nothing to See Here as far as inferring he's skipping Phase I OTAs because of the end of last season or because his relationship with Josh and the team is trashed. The evidence for the Nothing to See Here point, is that he hasn't participated in Phase I of OTAs for previous seasons in which he did not end the season with a tantrum. Therefore it seems a reasonable inference that whatever his reasons are for missing OTAs, they may be similar to his reasons in previous seasons.

I Call Shenanigans. Diggs was a former 5-star HS recruit that dropped in the draft for a number of reasons: 1) went to Maryland rather than a top CFB program like Florida, USC, Cal, Auburn etc. 2) suffered season-ending injuries 2 years in a row in college (broken fibula, lacerated kidney) 3) questions about his ability to release, since he'd played mostly from the slot or outside in space 4) questions about his ability to hold up against physical corners 5) questions about how he would fare against top corners, since he was playing at a lower level of competition If you have something indicating that Diggs dropped in the draft "because of his attitude", here is your chance: Stand And Deliver We Shall See. Diggs hasn't been there for 3 years now (and the 4th, OTAs were canceled) and his teammates don't seem to have regarded that as a bar to electing him a captain last season. I do think he may be a me-first player. If so, that's something the WR coach, OC, and Allen are going to have to better manage this season.

IIRC, Stef was a no-show at April OTAs last season. And 2021 The first OTAs are pretty restrictive. Diggs works out pretty intensively on his own, and I have the impression he just doesn't find a lot of value to Phase I of OTAs.

I mean, I don't know that they were talking, hanging out, playing games together, acting like 'brothers from different mothers' all offseason the last couple years. Do you? One of them spends most of the offseason living and training in Florida. The other spends most of the off season living and training in Cali. I'm sure they text from time to time and maybe play the occasional game. I think they texted and talked and played the occasional game, and I think they quietly got together to throw and catch, but I think the "bromance" thing had its elements of being a media creation. The part about "Stef's gonna Stef" sounded genuine to me, as did the immediate answer "Absolutely" when asked about his relationship. It sounded to me as though the two of them had talked things out and come to a mutual understanding. By the way, the phrase was "I'm never going to not like" not "I'm never going to dislike". You quoted it then changed it slightly.

Exactly. You understand completely. I have nothing whatsoever against mock drafts. They're not my personal football coverage of choice, but I "get it" that they have a market, some people enjoy them and love to discuss them. I appreciate all the effort guys on this board like @Virgil and @GunnerBill put into them and I've told them so! But they aren't pretending to be anything but what they are: a fan mock draft. What grinds my gears a bit is what I call "catfishing", trying to draw people in pretending to be something else, writing as though a trade that's part off a mock draft has actually happened. And yeah, you're right, it's probably on the headline writer if different than the content creator. How is that? Enquiring minds wish to be enlightened regarding the mysteries of content curation on the Interwebs. All I know is I'm seeing a lot of Sam Fricker reels on Facebook and every time I yell at the screen "No! That's @GunnerBill 's content!"

I don't understand how you are computing AV for a draft. If you're giving Whaley 2017, for example, just Tre White, Dion Dawkins, and Matt Milano sum to AV of 141. Are you averaging, or what? and over what # of players, because Beane didn't draft 26 players in 2022..... Likewise as far as AV is concerned, Matt Milano has a wAV of 50, Robert Woods has a wAV of 56, Sammy Watkins has a wAV of 43, Tre White 46, and Dion Dawkins 45. So totally not understanding how Preston Brown 34, Robert Woods, John Miller 31, Tre White and Dawkins would be Whaley's best 5 as far as AV is concerned.

Maybe catfishing not the right word. Example: I'm scrolling on my phone and "Chargers trade Austin Ekeler to Eagles for late 1st" strikes my eyeballs. Then I read "Seven Round Mock Draft" and "Chiefs take 3 WR". Oh. Wish I were savvy enough to adjust my newsfeed to not show me shite like that.

Ugh, you may be channeling Beane's Carolina roots, as that was the path they took. Here is cap allocation for offense by team in 2022. Click to make it bigger. We can see that a number of teams that felt they could contend allocated more cap to offensive spending than we did, including SB winners KC, the Cowboys, the Vikings, the Bucs (they thought they were in it), the Packers, and the Bengals. The 49ers and Eagles spent less. IMO, if a team has a top 10 QB and wants to win, they still need to be mindful it's a team game; he needs protection, and more than one quality weapon.

FIFY Rousseau and Oliver are 1st round picks who have not yet been "paid", they're on fixed rookie contracts. I guess that's an understandable mistake to make, given that Oliver is currently the Bills 6th biggest cap hit, but how could you miss listing Josh *****in' Allen as one of the folks on offense we've paid? I'm curious about the source of the information about what the Bills spent on their safeties relative to the rest of the league. Per Spotrac, the Bills are spending 1.67% of their cap on safeties this season, spent 1.45% of the their cap in 2022. That doesn't seem like a lot.

I think you can trust that Damar Hamlin has been scrutinized for strange personal medical issues down to the molecular level. His family likely has too. His heart has probably been imaged like no heart has been imaged before. He's probably spent months wearing a heart monitor, looking for any little burp and hiccup in his heart's electrical rhythms. If there were something to be found, his doctors would have found it. He's a troll from a veritable lineage of troll farm accounts. Just stuff him deep in your "ignore" file where he deserves to go, and leave him where he doesn't want to be - getting no attention. EDIT since my posts got merged: Absolutely NOT the guy I'm responding to, the guy JoPoy88 was responding to, who I'm not gonna name because "beetlejuice" You guys are absolutely right, but please see above. This is a PSA brought to you by "this Troll just Jumped the Shark and went too far"

This is actually a point I’ve been contemplating for a while. DL rotation is foundational to McDermott’s defense. I’m just uncertain how successful it actually can be to add difference-making players when you need, as you say, 8 or 9 DL who are good enough to see substantial snaps each game. The 3 CB aren’t an issue IMHO. You need 3 LB + 2 CB or 2 LB + 3 CB, the starters play almost every snap, I don’t think nickel CBs are more expensive than top LB.

I can’t disagree with the sentiment here.

So bunch of stuff here. First off, what does he mean talking about “team friendly deal” and “money I left behind”? In August 2021 when Allen signed, it was the 2nd biggest contract in NFL history (behind Mahomes) and had the most guaranteed money. So at the time it was drafted and signed, it was very much aligned with market value for a top QB. News flash, contracts go up,, and a contract that was at the top of the league in 2021 is gonna look like a bargain now. It’s a fair point that the Bills have underinvested on defense relative to offense overall. There was a really good article - I think in Buffalo Rumblings by Skarkrow - breaking down the draft investment using the trade value chart. I think it did FA as well. Fundamentally, while overall the draft investment of picks are roughly equal, the draft value (highest picks) are skewed towards D. Similar skew in FA signings, I believe. Yet in terms of salary cap investment - of the top 6 cap hits this year, 4 are on offense (Allen, Diggs, Dawkins, Morse) and 2 are on defense (Tre White, Ed Oliver). The next 6 are 5 on defense (Hyde, Johnson, Jones, Miller, Milano) and 1 on offense (Knox). So top 12, 5 on offense, 7 on defense. It’s not as though there isn’t siubstantial contract investment on offense. It’s weird of Florio to single out “cheap guard” and “AJ Klein”. Boettger was brought back on a VSB contract (cap charge of 2nd year player) and Klein is very likely to be close to minimum as well. Every team makes these moves, veteran depth on minimum salary. Overall in FA, the Bills offensive investment has outpaced its defensive investment. One can argue as to whether or not Conner McGovern is a *good* guard or Deonte Harty a *good* receiver, but the Bills invested $31.85M of contract $$ in them vs. $15.5M in their top defensive FA signings, so “cheap” doesn’t seem like the right descriptive. Last but not least, we have no idea the private conversations Josh has had with Beane and with McDermott. He may already have “made noise” as far as what he sees as needs to take the next step.