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Why? OC for 4 years Offensive rank those 4 years 6, 17, 1 and 4 Rush yards 5, 17, 9, and 9 Very different offensive structure, based on running the ball and getting lots of YAC. I dunno about those 9 out of 10 teams, but we'll never know because we'll never have a situation where Dorsey vs. Moore is the choice

Fair point My point was that those throwing stones at the 49ers for "selling out" to get CMC and not getting a SB for it, should look in a Bills framed mirror because one can look at the Bills moves from the same perspective - "selling out" to get Von Miller only to have him lost

I can't love it when the zebras and their laundry take an unfair toll But if the penalties impacted the Bengals more than the Chiefs, the Bengals have no one to blame but their own selves. I had a look at the penalties in the Gamebook Bengals 9 penalties for 71 yds Chiefs 4 penalties for 55 yds But The Chiefs were called for a 20 yd DPI while the Bengals only an 8 yd DPI Both teams were called for 2 OH (the Chiefs for a 3rd that was decline), but the Chiefs actually had a TD called back on an OH penalty and settled for a FG in the 1Q I think the difference was in what I would call "player controlled" penalties The Bengals had 4 -Illegal touching for 5, delay of game 5, intentional grounding for 9 yds, and of course the "unnecessary roughness" penalty for 15, entirely legit The Chiefs had 1 - taunting for 15 yds, which arguably gave the Bengals better field position and helped Cincy to a TD when Mahomes fumbled 3 plays later. Basically, if the Bengals had cut their stupid penalties even in half with the illegal touching and UR, which they controlled and which were avoidable and dumb, the officiating would have been pretty equitable If anything, KC had bigger penalty impacts because they had a TD called back and a 20 yd DPI against them.

https://www.nfl.com/news/chargers-expected-to-hire-ex-cowboys-oc-kellen-moore-as-new-offensive-coordinato I kind of feel sorry for Justin Herbert TBH. I don't think Moore is the man to craft a great offense from what the Chargers have.

The 49ers have no QB to pay though. 2 rookies. They have an interesting roster situation. They have $13M in cap Christian McCaffrey is signed through 2025 They can actually save money on Bosa's $17.86M cap hit by signing him to a long term contract.

I'm not sure of your point? Sure, they came up short having to play a 4th string QB then a 3rd string QB with an injured arm. One could say the Bills came up short(er) playing whoever in place of Von Miller, our 2nd and 3rd string NT, and playing 3rd and 4th string safeties They still came up short, meaning the throw of resources into this year didn't work out for them. And so did we, meaning the same.

I had the same reaction "Saffold? WTF?"

I think the amount of resources invested in DL (not just draft but FA $$) absolutely has hurt other aspects of the team. And yes, other teams do rotate on DL and need to have decent depth, but the starters may take more like 70% -80% of the snaps The problem, though, hasn't been the resources per se but that so many of them have not worked out - Star Lotulelei signed for the big bucks, maybe gave the Bills a single? strong year, Vernon Butler zero good year, Harrison Phillips 3rd round pick, Ed Oliver 1st round. So we had to move on and overpay for different FA. Then the draft picks. Overall, we had 3-1st round picks (Oliver, Shaq, Rousseau) and 3 2nd round picks (Epenesa, Basham, Jordan Phillips) in that game, and couldn't get there. Zay Jones was 100% a McDermott pick. At the time our WR coach had been Zay Jones college coach and that was His Guy.

The latter. The players learn to play the sideline starting in PeeWee The players who play in good college programs and the pros absolutely are the ones who can perform full go athletically while being aware of where they are on the field, where other players are on the field etc. He was an idiot and you could tell after the game he knew it

He did say "who do you believe the Bills have drafted"? 2017 Milano Tre White 2018 Josh Allen Tremaine Edmunds - if he repeats this year and improves a bit, like Milano, people will start to notice Wyatt Teller 😈 2019 Dawson Knox - I think on a team that used him properly, he will get there 2020 and on - May be too soon to tell, but I'm leaning towards "no one" Question: What is the answer if you ask this question of the Eagles, 49ers, Chiefs, and Bengals?

Didn’t even have to pull up but he reached out and shoved him, well after both of them crossed the sideline. Clear and stupid foul

There are ticky-tack roughing or personal fouls called at times but this wasn’t one of them.

LOL if that was Josh Allen we’d be outraged. Football players learn to play the sidelines from flag and from peewee Don’t shove the player after he’s clear out of bounds This one wasn’t even close

Someone told me they didn't like calculus. I told them their opinion would change over time. PS don't drink and derive

Is that what you call it

Slept on it and the best I can come up with is that the Bills drafted him to groom as an eventual replacement for Taron Johnson or Matt Milano. Milano similar physical makeup - 6'0" 223 when drafted. Similar evaluation as being a "tweener" between safety and LB If so, that's an example of a trend under Beane, they try to draft guys with high physical ceilings and develop them (AJE, where they asked him to transform his body completely and then re-learn how to play in a new body) rather than guys who can contribute fairly immediately. I don't believe he was drafted to replace Edmunds either. The one game where Bernard saw significant time, was the first NYJ game where he played for Milano. To be fair, he had very novice secondary playing behind him - Hamlin and Jaquan Johnson at safety, Christian Benford as one of the CB. But still, if it was supposed to be a benchmark of "how is he doing on that eventually replace Milano?" growth, the answer was "back in the pot with you!"

Not that this is saying a lot for Epenesa, but some people would argue that Epenesa was significantly better than Basham this year Unless you're comparing Basham this year to Epenesa last year? Which, since the rest of the line was very different, may not be fair.

https://www.silverandblackpride.com/2023/1/26/23553641/raiders-news-dylan-parham-struggled-rookie https://raiderswire.usatoday.com/2023/01/17/dylan-parham-had-up-and-down-rookie-season-with-raiders/ I dunno about "all rookie team", who picks it and what the criteria are. I think he's a bit on the small side for an NFL G? 6'3" 310? And of course the Raiders were not a good team this year either at passing or running the ball so there's a lower bar for getting a lot of snaps with them. But reaction to his play this season was, to say the least, mixed. The point is, while in general, I'm sure there are talented G to be found in the 3rd and 4th round, in specific if we'd drafted Parham, I don't think he'd have seen the field much for the Bills, and if he did, fans might well be asking "Why did we spend a 3rd round pick on an undersized guard who can't see the field and who is surrendering pressure at the highest rate for his position when he does? What a waste of a pick!" I don't understand the Terrel Bernard pick any better than anyone else, but I had a quick look and I didn't see anyone drafted a couple picks before or 10-15 picks afterwards who seemed like a slam-dunk improvement. Maybe there's someone there who will emerge next season. This is not because I'm a huge Bills Drafting Apologist. I'm still salty about Boogie Basham in 2021 when Creed Humphrey was on the board 2 picks later. But, little though I follow college football, I thought it was clear Creed Humphrey was going to be a very very good OL. I think if we want to be salty about last year's draft and OL, the place to be salty might be drafting Kaiir Elam at 23 with Tyler Smith and Tyler Linderbaum right behind him. I don't know if Linderbaum is named to an "all rookie team", but he played C all season for a team that lives and dies with their OL and was named a "Pro Bowl Snub". https://www.baltimoreravens.com/news/tyler-linderbaum-afc-biggest-pro-bowl-snubs Tyler Smith took over for Tyron Smith in Dallas and won praise. I think that's a better example of the Bills drafting for need (needed a corner, so they took Elam) vs. really looking at the qualities of the players. Just me maybe, and of course you could prove right about Dylan Parham.

I got Nothin', sorry. I was hella puzzled by that pick at the time. Well, have a look. Bernard was pick #89 https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2022/draft.htm

There is no "odd logic" here. The fact is, Hodgins exhibited the production he exhibited in NYC as the #2 WR - he saw the field for 80% of the snaps (that's a fact) which is #2 WR territory, not #3 WR territory, whatever you may or may not have said. And the fact is, he got that opportunity in NYC because they had a lot of injuries at the top of their WR depth chart. He didn't get that opportunity here, because we had WR ahead of him. The fact is, Hodgins was on the 53 man roster here from October 3 until November 1, when we waived him and NY claimed him off waivers. During that time, he did not see the field much - because we had 4 healthy WR ahead of him. This really is logic a chap with the screen name "Einstein" ought to be able to handle. If you think Hodgins would have had the same production here as in NYC if we sat Davis, or McKenzie, or Shakir, and played him ahead of them, I don't know what to tell you. That's some weird offensive skills and even offensive production evaluation. Hodgins production in NYC was 43 ypg on 78% of the snaps per game Gabe Davis put up 55.7 ypg on 91% of the snaps per game McKenzie is a different style of receiver playing a different role, that Hodgins would not have filled. Wyatt Teller was not an all-pro guard when he was traded to Cleveland. Nor was he an all-pro guard for 2 years after he was traded to Cleveland He also became an all-pro on a run-first team where run blocking is of paramount importance and the run sets up the pass. With the benefit of hindsight, would Beane have liked to keep him, I'm sure, but speaking of twisting words and odd logic - stop writing as though we cut an all-pro guard or as though the same skillset that made a guy an all-pro in Cleveland would have been what was needed here.

Haven't you heard of the new "Morning After Pill" for men? It changes your DNA!

IMO, it's past time to use some draft resources at OL and WR

There's a feature in the Olean Times Herald by long-time sportswriter Chuck Pollack https://www.oleantimesherald.com/sports/evidently-bills-picked-salgado-to-be-scapegoat/article_43488b31-baa6-524f-b181-40297053fa69.html I'm not sure Salgado is a scapegoat, per se. I don't think guys like Hyde and Poyer take much coaching, but more knowledgeable heads than mine have pointed out that when the backups came in, their lack of scheme knowledge was evident. Moreover, McDermott really trusts Hyde, and if Hyde gave his feedback in his exit interview that the coaching wasn't up to par this season (Salgado's 1st year as safeties coach), McDermott would likely weight that heavily. So far, it's the only change we've heard of. I respect McDermott and Beane for taking their time and evaluating thoroughly this week and the next before making their moves. I also do believe that McDermott prefers the "low ripple" approach of having guys "pursue new opportunities" elsewhere vs. firing them. But...if we go into a new season with that as our only change on the coaching side of the ball, will anyone else be disappointed? I'm not an "off with their heads" type, but the more I think about it, the more I do feel we need change. Yeah, I know we went into the Bengals game with two starters on the DL out and two more playing injured. But against 3 backup OL on the Bengals, it really does stick in my craw that the DL played so poorly, especially considering that they had 3 former 1st round picks (Rousseau, Lawson, Oliver) and 3 former 2nd round picks (Epenesa, Basham, Jordan Phillilps) on the field. All but one of them was drafted by the Bills albeit Lawson a year before this group took over - still, that's a lot of draft investment On the OL side, we have 3 former 2nd round picks (Dawkins, Saffold, Morse), a 3rd round pick (Brown), and an UDFA, and none of them were on injury report. There's less draft resources invested, but that's still a fair bit of resources to play like dogcrap.

The latter. Not as a definite "plan" but as "we will evaluate this off season" The latter. Not as a definite "plan" but as "we will evaluate this off season". Stated by McDermott. The latter. Not as a definite "plan" but as "we will evaluate this off season". Stated by McDermott.