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That's actually pretty much one interpretation of what "NostraIsaiah" said. My take homes: 1) Don't take anything Diggs puts on social media too seriously, it's just "Stef being Stef" 2) If he actually says it in person, whether on a show or in an interview or in the Bills facility, he means it 3) Complete respect for Diggs play on the field 4) What he says on the sidelines (presumably in the locker room or meetings), sometimes he's just "getting it off his chest"; 80-90% of the time he might have a good point but 10-20% of the time he's "out there" (trippin) in his viewpoint and needs to be reined in. "We let him talk, but not too much"
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The "you'd be surprised" comment was in response to this from Cover1's Aaron Quinn, in case anyone needs context. Good question: My guess would be McDermott, Beane, the WR coach, and Diggs were in a meeting where things got heated. McDermott may have said "We need to take a break. Let's step away, and we'll get back to this later" McDermott is thinking "step away from the meeting, see you at practice" Diggs is thinking "step away from the facility, go be in my own space doing my own thing" McDermott is told right before his presser that Diggs left the building and told someone he wasn't practicing today on the way out. McDermott is "very concerned" because that's not what he expected to happen; maybe Stef is more riled up or there are bigger problems than he thought and now he's got a PR problem with the 89 guys who are there. Bakari alerts on it and decides he needs to step in and earn his pay and get things settled down, so the comment works. Diggs talks some more, It all gets worked out (for now) and McDermott takes the fall for what happened. He's speaking his truth - he did say let's take a break and step away. He's just not speaking the whole truth that Diggs may have put a different spin on it than he intended, or that he may have excused Diggs from practice retroactively.
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Not a full transcript, but a lot of quotes here: https://www.buffalobills.com/news/sean-mcdermott-says-team-is-in-a-great-spot-with-stefon-diggs-as-bills-wr-return 'course, it's put out by the Bills so maybe the guy who put it together is lying? The problem with that is: if we don't accept the premise that leaders in the Bills organization and players are generally speaking their truth (truth as they understand it), we quickly come to a place where discussion or meaningful debate are impossible. Each person's beliefs become, essentially, articles of religious faith in that there is no way to challenge or refute them. Any evidence refuting them may be dismissed as "he's lying" etc, so only that person and those who think like him have a corner on what's really happening. We might as well all pack up and go home in those circs. I think, if you read it carefully, McDermott told the exact truth. I think he didn't tell the whole truth. (link above)
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True, on the 17 game thing. Kelce and Lamb both played 17 games, so I guess on a "targets per game" thing he'd be #4. Actually all the guys ahead of Diggs in targets played 17 games last season. Which brings up an interesting point. Both Jefferson and Adams play >90% of the snaps: 92% for Jefferson, 95% for Adams. Tyreek Hill, 3rd in targets, plays 76% of the snaps. Diggs similar, 77%. Lamb plays 10% more snaps, 87%.
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Well, the basis is McDermott saying so as quoted here. Indirect evidence would be Diggs showing up and participating in Day 2. But 1) of course, if one wants to work from the premise that McDermott is lying in everything he says, then sure, there's not much basis. (Clarification: I personally don't believe McDermott lies. I believe he speaks the truth selectively and arranges it artistically at times) 2) if it's an interpersonal issue, these things have the tendency to re-emerge because people may commit to changing whatever it is, but don't follow through or don't follow through consistently, or they reflect underlying issues so they pop up in a different form
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I think so too. I would bet on something like: Diggs stormed out, McDermott learned he'd left the building and stated he wouldn't practice just before his presser and was, not knowing how things were left, legit very concerned (which might be a polite way of saying "annoyed/angry") As a result of that presser statement being tweeted, Bakari became "very concerned" his client would be fined and might be cited for "conduct detrimental" (as well as just setting the tone for a bad relationship with the team he's gotta play for if he wants to play this season). So then apparently Diggs returned later that afternoon and they talked, maybe talked more this am, and now that everything's cool and Diggs made an appearance at Minicamp, it's "nothing to see here, Move Along". I'm sure it's truth that McDermott excused him as in, he noted his absence from Day 1 of Mandatory Minicamp as "excused" so that there won't be a fine that might ruin the apparent detente.
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6/13 Day 1 and 6/14 Day 2 Mandatory Minicamp
Beck Water replied to Beck Water's topic in The Stadium Wall
I’m not sure the reporters are allowed to cover the team drills portion, just position drills -
6/13 Day 1 and 6/14 Day 2 Mandatory Minicamp
Beck Water replied to Beck Water's topic in The Stadium Wall
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6/13 Day 1 and 6/14 Day 2 Mandatory Minicamp
Beck Water replied to Beck Water's topic in The Stadium Wall
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6/13 Day 1 and 6/14 Day 2 Mandatory Minicamp
Beck Water replied to Beck Water's topic in The Stadium Wall
IIRC I believe it was a throw from "the other Allen" -
Help me understand the Ken Dorsey hate
Beck Water replied to Buffalo_Stampede's topic in The Stadium Wall
That's pretty "meta" don't you think? Who are these two people? I read truckloads of criticism of McDermott and of Beane around here, so you can't mean them. It also implies that you feel hiring Dorsey was a mistake. There may have been a better offensive signal caller on the market, but there aren't any guarantees they would have produced a top-5 offense that never stalled out with the same player personnel in their first year, either. I have had similar questions. I felt that Daboll and Allen built a relationship based on love, like the famous joke about the "reliable mule trained with loving kindness" where Daboll had to hit Allen with a board a few times as a rookie and young player to "get his attention". Now that Allen is "the Franchise", I'm not sure Dorsey has the same clout or the same ability to rein Allen in. McDermott sounded really determined to do so in a couple of off-season pressers, but I'm not sure how that will play out. -
Help me understand the Ken Dorsey hate
Beck Water replied to Buffalo_Stampede's topic in The Stadium Wall
Statistically, there's no basis for the Dorsey hate. The Bills had a top 5 offense in yards, yards per play, points, 1st downs. 8th in passing yards, 3rd in passing TDs, 6th in NY/A. There were flaws with the offense -as you point out, poor redzone offense during much of the season and also poor running game. People who watch film obsessively, like the Cover1 guys, stated that there wasn't as much overlap between Daboll and Dorsey's passing game as one might think there would be. A number that sticks in my mind as one they threw out, was about 30%, but no promises as to its accuracy. I also think it's a bit of a challenge to separate out the difference in personnel. Davis vs. Emmanuel Sanders route running, Beasley vs. McKenzie. Then, the OL really struggled to pass protect at times, so Knox and Singletary were asked to chip. So really, I got nothing much as far as helping you understand the Dorsey hate. People perceived the offense as struggling at times, and at times it did, but maybe not as much or for as long as people thought. I do think there was a learning curve where at first, we had success from teams that weren't expecting what Dorsey did, then it became predictable and they defended it well, then he adjusted. That happens with every OC though. I also think people have short memories and forget how Daboll's offense got spanked during the Pittsburgh opener in 2021, got stopped at a number of critical points vs. Tennesee, and was impotent against the Jaguars. Was Dorsey perfect out of the gate, no, but objectively he did better than many would have you believe. -
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